Drink Swalla

When did the left get toxic :c

Sitting through a History lecture and they said the holocaust happened

Idk who to believe anymore

Some autist from discord

Or my professor 😦

darn!

Marxism has been hijacked by brony's

Such an autistic discussion

Social Democrats are of course left wing. Left wing certainly doesn't start at Marxism.

And I do not have a bias in this as I am neither SocDem or Marxist.

Liberals are where the centre is.

Liberals are taking cum from both commies and capitalists

@tunga since when are you a socialist and have an issue with race mixing

seems quite hypocritical.

'Equality for all, except for the blackies'

Leave that kind of chit chatter for the far right, where it belongs.

Oh, well you certainly aren't left wing then, so why would you be lurking in and around leftypol if not to start a debate?

cutie ❤

Conservatives by nature are nationalist.

Perhaps not as extreme as you, sir, but certainly they are so.

You'd think a National Socialist would have a greater hatred to those on the left.

To say that any of those men had a great love of left wing politics is a fallible argument.

Its very rare when I meet someone who actually believes in national socialism.

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I think I am quite capable of having an intelligent debate.

I study politics and international relations at university so I ain't getting information from reddit or 4chan.

@Adarsh Balak I do not believe so

Syndicalism and Mutualism are the finest isms.

I think I identify as a syndicalist though.

ouch.

I wouldn't agree with that..

Thomas Hobbes is probably one of the most well known right wing political philosophers...

and most famous right-wing philosopher in general.

@Deleted User quite

It is.

I agree.

UK

UK

UK

Lancaster Mass!

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meanie

❤

bum me

any time

Anyone read Thomas Hobbes and think he's a chronic autist?

Time to make an independent West Midlands

Peoples Republic of West Midlands

This is not what I expected when I decided to join a left wing discord..

Was expecting some enlightened discussion, not basically what I expect from a right wing discussion replacing the words capitalism for communism and replacing the word poor people for black people...

On what :c

Because I have contempt for hierarchy.

Quite.

No. I disagree with the Ancom philosophy. I lean somewhere between the Anarcho-syndicalist and Mutualist ideas.

Unfortunately, I lie on the vertical opposite side of the spectrum.

Its unnecessary to governing.

Necessity is exactly the question. If it is not required then why should we spend the money on it, why should some people be placed at certain higher offices when said officer are not remotely needed to provide the function they've been tasked?

*waves hand in the air*

This is somewhat true but that is, as Rousseau said, a product of existence in a world with hierarchy. There is some level of conditioning that people are subject to. Being raised in a hierarchical society only breeds a craving for gaining power and a degree for selfishness. Strip such 'organic processes' away by doing away with such unneeded hierarchy in governing and there is no reason to suggest why society could not function better, be more ethical and prosperous.

The conditioning can be taken out. If you manage to persuade the ignorant masses that anarchism can work. The same way all political philosophies gain support. National Socialism is an example of this. But insofar as your comment about the experiment, this relates to what I just said that you can’t take someone out of a hierarchical state and expect them to act any other way than they did before. This is not human nature we are seeing in that experiment it’s the conditioning under the state.

I am not blaming them for them not understanding, but rather the state.

I am subject to the same conditioning, but I also at the same time have had a more independent education that allows me to decide objectively which ideology seems to be mor idyllic and realistic.

More*

It seemed that he put a lot of emphasis on education which is correct.

@tunga come back to the anarchist brotherhood.

I went through public schooling.

Not at all. I think I was a lot more critically thinking than that of my fellow classmates from a much younger age. Since I came to university they have certainly broken down any faith I have had in the state.

No, I have already stressed that it is the state that is to be blamed.

And no, public schooling doesn’t educate people about these issues, I had to find it out by myself.

Not necessarily more intelligent, but more politically conscious from a younger age, before I ever studied politics.

I just had a bigger interest in politics, doesn’t translate into intelligence I would argue.

No, I think leftists have a fundamental different philosophy on human nature.

Right wingers believe in a Hobbesian ‘man is selfish’ whilst the lefts take a more optimistic view, specifically anarchists like myself would argue the state has corrupted man.

Join us

Join the anarchist creed

Come into my arms

Nothing wrong with being faggy and weak if you are incredibly woke

John Q Taxpayer.

Killing people isn’t the point.

It’s to make the rich and poor fundamentally equal people.

And free.

I know I almost have you kole.

I know you’re on the verge of converting

Thats not fascist at all

That’s mor

Commie

Kole I’ve shifted you closer to me

National socialist to socialist

Almost

Just a few more

Incredibly correct points

You’re close

I can feel it coming

😮

Tbh I have too much contempt for hierarchy and people thinking inequality is inevitable so at this point in my life I doubt my opinions will change.

I am thoroughly convinced my the philosophy of anarchism.