holy shite

ikr

_young, right-wing, authoritarian_

one of these things is not like the other lol

wat

:l

There can only be one!!!

Because only the spanish can be syndicalists!!!111

Ikr

Lol

When you say piled

Well I mean

When you say evidence

Im almost entirely sure we're talking dated and on or dodgy "experts." Cause I mean, its the holocaust. There really isnt much up for debate.

Its not something heavily disputed through any factual or reliable basis. Millions didnt just vanish at random lol

So is this trolling or lol?

Now, I cant put my finger one why, but I dont seem to believe you lol.

Nah man holodomor definitely happened lol

Rip lol

What lol

"Discrepancies between _nonstate third party watchdogs_"

"Why was much of the evidence _actually_ fabricated" because stumbling onto mass grsves is fabrication lol

Ik but its a good troll

I didnt imply they arent run by international parties

I said they were non state actors lmao

You're acting as if numerous groups who all did their research into a tragedy independently, that didnt become widely reported for years after it happened, would somehow all come to the same number lol

Most death tolls throughout history give a margin of error

Unless of course all death tolls with a simple mathematical _range_ are fabricated :/

Well it was a mass tragedy

The margin is going to be in the millions

And,

I just said they didnt report it until years afterward

The holocaust didnt become a tangible learned experience until then

Nobody knew the full extent of what occurred and most people outside of europe were ignorant of it

Then it swept into prominence with the coming deaths of those who survived it sharing their stories, brfore they passed obviously

Because they all dont sit their and literally uncover every body that the other groups uncovet

No one group scoured all of europe

And found every single person

To have died in the holocaust

Thats retarded lol

Not to mention some people didnt even have bodies to be found

They went up in literal smoke

And records of their existence prior, that frankly wouldve been destroyed, would need to be found

Or recounted through living relatives

Like this is reaaaaaallllyyy simple stuff lol

Taking issues with the process of compiling statistics lmao

Also lol idk

I figure if this "leftist" chat is all nazis anyway

Are there even any actual leftists here

Gfg

Why do these chats keep getting made

Damn nazis masquerading as socialists

We have too many, bring me an ice pick

It doesnt

He's gonna BS about "most Jews are rich"

Except nobody is advocating for a single party state in which the vanguard becomes the new capitalist, bureaucratic class tasked with suppressing "dissidents"

And literally every state on earth suppresses people opposing the government

To then complain about people who try to oppose government, disobey it's laws, and then be punished, as if "that's what Hitler did!!!!111" is shenanigans

A bunch of people died for a bunch of reasons, and shit was corrupt out the ass, but in no way does communism specify the targeting of anyone or anything that doesn't build fascism, or exploit.

And you should read what I wrote :l

Seeing as how it qualified and gave context to whatever you meant to prove about "A lot of people dying"

A lot of people die under liberalism and capitalist markets, but I don't supposed we should start counting up a death toll huh

Cause it's retarded, it's WHY people die that matters.

No idea just yet, been flirting with the communism bit seeing as how everything else seems to suck ass.

But I did lol at "Lolbertarian"

Gonna use that one

Thsts not what it's based in, at all lol.

Well excuse me if I'm skeptical

Cause if they don't tell you right out,

Its probably cause it isn't a thing.

Its not like they have anything to hide.

Communism in no way specifies the trampling of any "individuality" of the proletariat, there is no "machine" to be a cog in for the majority of the ideology

Unless you advocate for a very specific socialism in one state concept

Its not even about sharing and being friends

It hinges on the greed of the prole

That they, being the suffering disillusioned majority deserve better and had better seize that conception of better

Not for other people, but for themselves.

Its why they confederate, not because oh help everyone else, but because they realize it's the easiest way to help themselves

Its why humanity socializes in general

And getting back to your chiefdom bit, those arise out of the "legitimized" use of force

Not simply evolving through conversation at random through evolution

There are plenty of societies of literal equals

People who simply "exist"

Entirely horizontal in power structure

One moment

Lol I can't get access to my pdfs without using a school log in I don't have

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirahã

But also this

And apparently Peter Gelderloos "The Rise of Hierarchy"

Also details why tribes adopt a hierarchy in the first place

Whereas others don't

Riiip

Oof

But if we're honest North Korea is pretty shit :l

Yea

So lol. I think South Korea is comparatively the best Korea

Its just, the other one is feudalism lmao

Which isn't a high bar

Yea but unified under what, is the issue

Cause I mean, feudalism,