Through your own perception on people's understanding of the state

An understanding of a revolutionary consciousness doesn't necessitate one separate knowing from the not knowing through hierarchy

it necessitates education, above all else.

You are subject to the same hierarchy and conditioning though

There has to be a fundamental difference between you and a gaumless commoner who takes everything he hears on the television as gospel truth

I am subject to the same conditioning, but I also at the same time have had a more independent education that allows me to decide objectively which ideology seems to be mor idyllic and realistic.

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A "commoner"? There is no fundamental difference between the politically minded and less politically minded besides that, an inclination towards engaging in politics. Everyone is at least somewhat mindful of the world around them. The only thing that would separate a purported revolutionary and "normal" person is the extent of that inclination. All of it comes through learning.

@Deleted User you basically just said that the only difference that might he fundamental is a desire to be politically conscious and the desire to be ignorant. That is not a difference worth brushing aside

It seemed that he put a lot of emphasis on education which is correct.

@tunga come back to the anarchist brotherhood.

Most anarchists that I know went through public schooling

Heil Hitler

Fuck

Fixed

I went through public schooling.

So you in essence went through the same conditioning as everyone else yet you have an inclination towards politics and knowledge while your peers for the most part do not

Seems like there is something more essential going on here

The separation of the politically conscious and those that have their daily lives to worry about is really unimportant in the current scheme of things. In times of upheaval and real change, your daily life is completely affected by politics, and when those times come about is when political consciousness amongst the population reaches a high.

Not at all. I think I was a lot more critically thinking than that of my fellow classmates from a much younger age. Since I came to university they have certainly broken down any faith I have had in the state.

So you prove my point

You see yourself as more intelligent on a fundamental level

No, I have already stressed that it is the state that is to be blamed.

What made you more critically thinking at a young age if not your own mind?

It's only a matter of chance politics has wound up as one of your interests.

And no, public schooling doesn’t educate people about these issues, I had to find it out by myself.

Not necessarily more intelligent, but more politically conscious from a younger age, before I ever studied politics.

There are sharper minds than mine that don't care at all for philosophy or politics.

@Suleiman so what made you more politically conscious if not your own mind?

I just had a bigger interest in politics, doesn’t translate into intelligence I would argue.

We are not purely creations of our society. Yes conditioning plays a substantial part in our development but leftists seem to ignore how much is essential to our being.

No, I think leftists have a fundamental different philosophy on human nature.

The average Joe does not and will never care for anything beyond playing video games and masturbating. This reality hurts but when you become more honest with yourself you'll come to grips with it.

Right wingers believe in a Hobbesian ‘man is selfish’ whilst the lefts take a more optimistic view, specifically anarchists like myself would argue the state has corrupted man.

I guess I'm neither left nor right then Heil dugin

Join us

Join the anarchist creed

Come into my arms

No that shit was gay and made me faggy and weak

Nothing wrong with being faggy and weak if you are incredibly woke

The average joe works for himself or his family, and as comfortably as his surroundings allow him to. Amongst all the problems of modern life, should we look down on him for not being interested in politics?

No but you shouldn't entrust him with important decision making

John Q Taxpayer.

I'd entrust him far more than pseudointellectual ideologues.

@Suleiman how you gonna kill bourgeoisie with such a weak minded and hedonistic philosophy

Killing people isn’t the point.

It’s to make the rich and poor fundamentally equal people.

And free.

@Deleted User more fool you I suppose

Ni🅱 a

I know I almost have you kole.

I know you’re on the verge of converting

You gotta hang the porkies from the highest tree pacifism is fucking gay

No lol

Thats not fascist at all

That’s mor

Commie

You're not the first anarchist ice spoken to and you won't be the last

Well I'm a socialist

I involve myself a lot with the community around me, and yeah sure there are some bad people but the vast majority are hard working, good people. I'd trust them to run this community more than I would a politician at the other side of the country.

Kole I’ve shifted you closer to me

National socialist to socialist

Just because I like my race doesn't mean I like the bourgeoisie

Almost

Just a few more

Incredibly correct points

faggot I haven't changed my mind on anythinfr

You’re close

I can feel it coming

I will come in your face kike

😮

Tying yourself down to a particular race is one of those ape-like tendencies we've kept as we evolved. It's insignificant in the grand scheme of human development, but a particularly nasty issue while we're alive at least

@Deleted User I agree. Bourgeois liberal democratic politicieanst are completely useless

Tbh I have too much contempt for hierarchy and people thinking inequality is inevitable so at this point in my life I doubt my opinions will change.

I am thoroughly convinced my the philosophy of anarchism.

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Racism is always going to exist, and won't give any wholesale good to humanity

So you're a Natsoc?

a burden of our psychology, I suppose

I feel like anarchism is the last leftist stronghold from the brony’s and feminists

Which seem to have hijacked the left

You understand recognizing in group preference in humans is key to natsoc philosophy right?

It’s the biggest fallacy of the ideology

It can be unlearned.

Maybe but I don't want black people or Asian people in my country

Least of all Jews

They are ugly and smell bad

You are softening your town

Tone*

What?

I feel you shifting toward anarchism

Lol

God my legs are open for you

Don't you think that's a very base worldview?

Anarchism in me

It is extremely base which is why it works

In the same way you prefer your family to a bunch of strangers

I have a preference to the group which I share a cultural and historical context with

We've evolved past the point where appealing to our most primitive instincts is preferable, civilisation hasn't evolved from everyone sticking to irrational fears.

Kole isn’t talking about human nature as such which is the fallacy in his argument.

Obviously we have not evolved beyond that because racism is still flourishing throughout every part of the world

Doesn’t justify national socialism.

And yet, look at this recent wave of civil rights and egalitarian ideologies

If you asked everyone in your country if they were racist, or what they thought about racists, what would they say?

Civil rights was not an equality struggle it was a black struggle

Wrong. It includes feminism and LGBT.

Human rights.

Etc.

Who cares? They are all racialists in some form or another. Whether they are conscious of it or not is irrelevant to this discussion

Yet they don't act on it, or think about it?

How do you know that lol

Do you think the majority population of multicultural countries are racialist in any significant degree?

Yes

Fascinating

How do these countries function, then? There are pockets of certain groups that congregate, but for most intents and purposes the races are mixed amongst one another.

These exact countries are currently undergoing the biggest political divides since the interwar period in Europe

I thought the average joe didn't care about politics?

Not about important esoteric nuances but they know they don't want blacks or more recently Arabs in their countries

it's almost as if the racialist side of these societies are small, angry minorities. Have you got any sources to back that up?

I'm saying the rise in nationalism is just a rise in conscious racism

Most if not all people are unconscious racists

Which most leftists agree with btw

That might be true, but it's not to a degree significant enough to make multicultural societies dysfunctional.

What country do you live in?

Australia

Booo

Aboriginal

Booo

Have you been paying attention to the news recently mate?

Australia belongs in the empire.

@Suleiman some Anarchist you are

IM JOKING

Nationalism is getting more mainstream due to the rise of immigration in the last fifteen years

U vagina

lmao, and the face of it is Pauline Hanson

good luck

Mate

The head of United patriots is a natsoc

the head of who?

How many seats do they have?

They aren't a political party

It's an activist group

There needs to be an anarchist political party.

Oxymoron

Enormous if true

I go to sleep now

Don't forget to Heil Hitler and Heil Stalin before you go to bed guys <:pn:312032035872964608>

@Deleted User you an anarchist?

who knows

Tell meeee

I want to know if you are, what your opinion on voting is

As an anarchist

Moral dilemma for me.

No, and I've gotta sleep

Loser

Die

🤔

Traitor

@tunga Jesus fucking christ, you really are no better than a civ nat.

Oh look its @Anarchist-Communist

what up

eyy

lol

National syndicalism is the only pure ideology

gross

poo

Gay

Hot

Nothing wrong with racism

Except there is

Its stupid that's what is wrong

We need gay islamic communism

Icp 4 life @prior

Looked gay islamic communism and saw this

Woah how shocking she's autistic lol

she's self aware of the gay islamic communism meme too

I wanna get a CNT flag but I don't want to have to explain to my grandma what it represents. She knows I'm a socialist, but not that I'm an anarchist.

@maostravelagent Why do you want a flag?

also is that a picture of lou reed?

Hello.

Oh god lmao. If my grandson was a socialist I'd know that I truly cursed my genepool. If he was also an anarchist I'd probably travel back in time and kill myself.

Yo

Jacom Rees Mog

Jacob Rees Mogg*

big fan

@Deleted User yeah

@maostravelagent now answer the first question

@Deleted User I want a CNT flag so I could put it on my wall. I have a couple ofther flags.

@maostravelagent CNT sucked.

Anarchism in general sucks. Shit theory and shit praxis.

https://youtu.be/XMA4dFDRowo

The fact that you have the name of a genuine commie in your user while simultaneously ascribing to idealistic, childish nonsense is kinda offensive. @maostravelagent

@Deleted User

@Offender fag

I had that name long before I was a Syndie. Also in what way is the idea of removing people who don't deserve power from power childish?

Anarchism is great in praxis qnd theory nice try

Please. Stop oversimplifying things. Your logic could be applied to numerous ideologies, some of which aren't even socialist in nature. Anarchism in general is a lot more than just the desire to rebel against illegitimate authority and you know it.

I know that the difference between anarchism and other ideologies is that we don't want to put another person in power after removing that authority.

@buyXRBpls No, it's actually not. It's resorted in police states like Makhnovia and free-for-all terroristic shitfests like Catalonia. The praxis can never be good when the theory sucks dick. How anyone could possibly claim to be an anarchist since the existence of Marx, Engels, Lenin, etc. is beyond me. I guess if you're a mental midget that hates their parents it's deep stuff.

>free for all terroristic shitfest
>Catalonia

Idealists will idealize.

Catalonia shitfest? What

I don't see anarchism as the be all end all solution, just the best way to apply socialism that we can concieve.

> am mental midget

Catalonia was a major failure. And for good reason. Please don't make me link specific incidents in which anarkiddies sensely fucked up historical monuments just because and terrorized innocent civilians.

@maostravelagent It isn't though. Marxism is. Anarchists have never achieved socialism. Ever.

Neither has marxism?

Catalonia only went into chaos because of the Republicans destablising it.

You people are parasites, who leech off Marxists in order to gain what little power you can and establish your shitty stateless states.

Oh no random people doing shit just like literally every society

????

@buyXRBpls Think again. USSR, Albania, China, Cuba..

This is why left unity doesn't work :(

USSR had a chance then stalin came

China state capitalist as fuck now

No anarchist is a comrade of mine. You people are unprincipled opportunists and wreckers. You're a stumbling block on the path to socialist construction. Fuck you.

You're reactionary af.

Don't know about albania

Hahaha

Reactionary

Fucking genius

Get some Marxism in your life you silly little dreamers.

Kiddies aren't comrades of mine

The only comrades I recognize are Scientific Socialists. Not utopians.

@maostravelagent but why

do you want this

Marxist theory is fine and i still follow it but anarchism is way more likely

Oh yeah it's not like the dictatorship of the proleteriat would become corrupt and authoritarian just like it has in practice.

Anarchism utopian? Haha

What about the Zapatistas?

Way more likely? Is that why your theory has NEVER gotten close to it's logical conclusion? Marxism has changed the world. Anarchism hasn't.

They've been around for like 20 years now and haven't descended into chaos

It's time to drop Prince Kropotkin and Bakunin and study some real commies.

Let's install a new state after abolishing the old state and banish people for being "enemies of the state" or "revisionists"

Legendary

You sound like Makhno. Now all you need is a private military force to keep dissent in check by force.

Hmmm

If it supressed people like you god bless

Don't forget to terrorize innocent people and destroy statues for no good reason. It's the anarchist way.

Yes it is

Problem with that?

That's what happens when you're a disorganized mass of unprincipled parasites who like to read shitty theory written by subpar thinkers that have consistently been BTFO'd by Marxists.

Nice meme

Not as nice a meme as anarchism though.

I'll just let you feel superior in your mind

Fill your ego as long as you would like