Message from @Suleiman
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Interesting that you see the commoner as a ignorant and presumably easily duped yet you think they should be given equal decision making capacities as an academic or professional?
You are closer to fascism than you might be conscious of.
I am not blaming them for them not understanding, but rather the state.
Okay but what is the difference between you and a non anarchist then? Obviously you see yourself as being more conscious of the world around you.
Fundamentally you recognize there are stupid and smart people
Through your own perception on people's understanding of the state
An understanding of a revolutionary consciousness doesn't necessitate one separate knowing from the not knowing through hierarchy
it necessitates education, above all else.
You are subject to the same hierarchy and conditioning though
There has to be a fundamental difference between you and a gaumless commoner who takes everything he hears on the television as gospel truth
I am subject to the same conditioning, but I also at the same time have had a more independent education that allows me to decide objectively which ideology seems to be mor idyllic and realistic.
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A "commoner"? There is no fundamental difference between the politically minded and less politically minded besides that, an inclination towards engaging in politics. Everyone is at least somewhat mindful of the world around them. The only thing that would separate a purported revolutionary and "normal" person is the extent of that inclination. All of it comes through learning.
@Deleted User you basically just said that the only difference that might he fundamental is a desire to be politically conscious and the desire to be ignorant. That is not a difference worth brushing aside
It seemed that he put a lot of emphasis on education which is correct.
Most anarchists that I know went through public schooling
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So you in essence went through the same conditioning as everyone else yet you have an inclination towards politics and knowledge while your peers for the most part do not
Seems like there is something more essential going on here
The separation of the politically conscious and those that have their daily lives to worry about is really unimportant in the current scheme of things. In times of upheaval and real change, your daily life is completely affected by politics, and when those times come about is when political consciousness amongst the population reaches a high.
Not at all. I think I was a lot more critically thinking than that of my fellow classmates from a much younger age. Since I came to university they have certainly broken down any faith I have had in the state.
So you prove my point
You see yourself as more intelligent on a fundamental level
No, I have already stressed that it is the state that is to be blamed.
What made you more critically thinking at a young age if not your own mind?
It's only a matter of chance politics has wound up as one of your interests.
And no, public schooling doesn’t educate people about these issues, I had to find it out by myself.
Not necessarily more intelligent, but more politically conscious from a younger age, before I ever studied politics.
There are sharper minds than mine that don't care at all for philosophy or politics.
@Suleiman so what made you more politically conscious if not your own mind?
I just had a bigger interest in politics, doesn’t translate into intelligence I would argue.
We are not purely creations of our society. Yes conditioning plays a substantial part in our development but leftists seem to ignore how much is essential to our being.
No, I think leftists have a fundamental different philosophy on human nature.
The average Joe does not and will never care for anything beyond playing video games and masturbating. This reality hurts but when you become more honest with yourself you'll come to grips with it.
Right wingers believe in a Hobbesian ‘man is selfish’ whilst the lefts take a more optimistic view, specifically anarchists like myself would argue the state has corrupted man.
I guess I'm neither left nor right then Heil dugin
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