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Christmas dog
Its koπ ±a
not kobe
Im not a nigger that plays basketball
Are you sure about that?
got em
You mean a basketball American, have some class nigger.
tfw played basketball in middle school
g-g-guys Im w-white right??
Oy vey he used the hard R
So why did we have a new fitness server?
nathan owned the old one but his account was shut down so it doesnt have a technical owner
so to be on the safe side a new one was proactively made
@Deleted User Ape not kill ape.
Hey anybody tried a ketognic diet?? DM if you know about it
I'm on it now. I'm not an expert but what do you want to know?
Just so you gents are aware, a focus on high testosterone foods should be considered:
Olive oil
Broccoli
Blue cheese
Garlic
Onions
White button mushrooms
Just a few ideas.
Oh, and fish, especially tuna, which is high in omega fatty acids, helps testosterone levels.
Those are all delicious foods too. Those really boost T levels?
Yup.
Google it. Or duckduckgo it.
So basically just eat like a med
Be careful with fish consumption
Mercury concentrates up the food chain
Depends on where it's sourced from
Aka no Delaware River catfish
Yup. Tuna can be high in mercury. The larger the fish, generally the higher the mercury.
Omega suppliments are also a good idea, and capsules are cheap.
Labdoor.com keeps good rankings on those
Nice.
Hot peppers also raise testosterone
Well that explains my love of garlic
And hot peppers
And onions
But I just can't back broccoli
I've done extensive research in redpilled nutrition/how to raise T levels as a backdrop to my hobby as an amateur chef.
I might do a write up tomorrow of a comprehensive list of what raises T levels, and what harms them.
I've had the best results simply lifting heavy and at most supplementing with creatine. Bust your ass in the gym fuck all these bs hacks
Hot peppers, onions and fish oil along wiht brok and other veggies are great for you. Anybody that claims there is even a transient effect on your test levels with food is selling you bullshit. And if they are not, just ask for the labs. Test is some of the cheapest, easiest, insant labs you can get.
Nutrition isn't BS. It's critical
who said nutrition is bs?
Eat healthy but I'm just talking over thinking I never said nutrition was bs
Nutrition is crucial to manage your insulin, ldl, hdl, mood, bone density etc. It will not change your test level. But you don't need to argue. Just go get tested before and after and post your results. Simple. If you don't have that, you don't know.
Results speak for themselves
It's still true that different foods have different effects on you physically, and there is great benefit to fine-tuning a diet
and obviously nutrition and fitness go hand in hand. Everyone here should be working out
I don't think there is a single person here that is arguing that pop tarts and soda is good nutrition. That is not the topic of conversation. The topic was nonsense bro science about test levels being affected by food. If you trully have an enoctrine problem, go get tested and seek treatment.
I guess I was just speaking in regards to beginners. If you're more advanced by all means get tested and fine tune your nutrition. I just personally had that issue starting out and being bogged down by an overabundance of info that's all
Certain foods do raise T levels, just as soy lowers T levels.
^
https://www.healthline.com/health/low-testosterone/boosting-food It isn't bro-science. It's hard science.
Here is the thing to keep in mind, and I really every man here thinks this through. Your health is the most important thing you have. Testostorone production in your body like insulin production or adrenal function or kidney function has an optimal range for your body that might or might not be the range that your body is producing such hormone. Some endoctrine systems are very responsive to outside influence, i.e. prolonged high glucose diet can bring about insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. If you have low testostorone, aka hypogonadism you are at higher risk of bone fractures, heart disease, depression. You need to get that looked at and remedied. If your test level is normal, the you can follow bro science.
Lol, hard science. How many percentage points does egg yolk raise test levels in men with primary or seconday hypogonadism? I don't see an answer in there.
Astorg P. (2005). [Dietary fatty acids and colorectal and prostate cancers: epidemiological studies].
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16123006
Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. (2012). Prostate cancer: Six things men should know about tomatoes, fish oil, vitamin supplements, testosterone, PSA Tests - and more [Press release].
fredhutch.org/en/news/releases/2012/08/prostate-cancer--six-things-men-should-know-about-tomatoes--fish.html
Lee DM, et al. (2012). Association of hypogonadism with vitamin D status: The European male aging study.
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22048968
Low Testosterone and Menβs Health [Fact sheet]. (2012).
hormone.org/questions-and-answers/2010/low-testosterone-and-mens-health
Pilz S, et al. (2011). Effect of vitamin D supplementation on testosterone levels in men [Abstract].
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21154195
Wehr E, et al. (2010). Association of vitamin D status with serum androgen levels in men [Abstract].
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20050857
There you go.
Here is another one for you. Holding guns vs babies.
Why don't you run labcorp, eat a shit ton of eggs and then run the test again?
Do you know how you solve VitD deficiency today if you ar enot a farm worker. Yes pills. Not rubbing onion juice on your temples.
@Deleted User what I read is you need zinc and vitamin d. Why not just supplement?
Don't suplement if you are not deficient. WHy would you do that?
The onion shit is a meme tbh. And yeah supplements for both these things are helpful. Although there is less bioavailability in vitamins as opposed to getting it naturally from food.
During the winter you will be. But like caco said the vitamins are less bioavailabile
You need to eat anyway. Why not focus your diet around foods heavy in vitamins and minerals beneficial to T and muscle development?
Agreed
A diet heavy in polysaturated fats and protein is ideal for this.
You've convinced me. No more depending on 12hr sleep sessions and squats for t
tfw if I don't set an alarm I regularly sleep 10-12 hours
Your body needs it. Like fuck you caco I'm recovering
Yeah pretty much, I'm pretty harsh on myself
Had about 300 cal of eggs and a cup of coffee this morning at 8
Worked + 2 hours at the gym
It's 1am and I still haven't eaten since
That's.. not Goodman
The gf is making lamb chops right now so I'm set
but yeah I do this regularly
Nice
Does anyone prescribe to a Paleo diet/lifestyle? I've been on it for over two months and it's given me considerable benefits
I've been Paleo for nearly seven years. There have been varying degrees of strictness modifications to stop myself from becoming too thin. It totally changed my gastrointestinal system. I'm very fond of the lifestyle.
@Argument of Perigee , I find it far easier and better for me than strict calorie counting. I find myself keeping good muscle mass and far more energy
Yea, calories have no meaning to me with Paleo. I'll eat 3 ribeye steaks for dinner if I want--no fat gain. I've got a very tall & slender build; even so, people see me destroying massive amounts of meat and are speechless at how I maintain my body.
Keep at it if it suits you and has great results.
I'm glad it works for you as well. Definitely re-affirmation for me that I'm doing the right thing. Thank you.
Can you guys explain the benefits paleo is giving you. For instance I've been on keto a few months and it's given me way more energy during the midday when I used to get tired. Do you guys see anything similar from paleo?
I actually follow a loose form of paleo - a poor man's paleo if you will
I've cut out 90% of carbs. My diet is meat and veggies essentially
I can confirm that even following it loosely, there are obvious and strong benefits
carbs are important for CNS recover and all sorts of other things
paleo is dumb dude stop
carbs are literally jewish satan
carbs are totally essentiall for muscle building
you need carbs as much as fat and protein
(((Carbs)))
^^^
i have a hard time bel;iving your body is recovering at an opitimal rate if your doing heavy compound movments and eating minimal carbs
the carbohydrate jew
I get all the carbs I need from vegetables tbh
i highly doubt thath
fuck grains π€
if your doing any kind of deadlift or squat progressions im not sure how your able to keep super low carbs and increase your numbers over reasonable time intervals
particularly deadlift
I deadlifted last night, 3 reps of 12
Whey protein shakes should be fine for recovery
The biggest issue with deadlifting is Central Nervous System fatigue
protein wont help
you need carbs and fat
bruh carbs are op tf y'all on about
carbs help me out alot
You can get enough carbs from vegetables and plenty of energy from fats and oils used in cooking and inherent in food. The idea is to cut out garbage, prcoessed foods with tons of sugar and unnecessary carbohydrates.
Eat one ingredient foods. Organic, grass fed and ethically sourced is preferable, depending on budget and availability of course
Potatoes and rice are fine in moderation if you feel like you're dragging and need extra energy for endurance and performance. However, sweet potatoes are considered far more preferable over white ones (White Potatoes Matter!) for their higher nutrient value
sure you CAN get enough carbs out of just veggies but are you likely to? im skeptical. i agree with your point about processed food. organic is meh. carbs serve many more functions then simply supplying energy they are ESSENTIAL for muscle growth. nothing wrong with eating bread and pasta ect.
^^^^^
@shyguy, I suppose it's a matter of lifestyle and what diet you want for yrouself. Not trying to push Paleo, just answering some questions about it. I have a day where I carb-out for mental health. You can't eat perfect all the time, plus having intermittent processed carbohydrates such as bread and pasta can jumpstart fat burning. I think it's a good idea to eat strictly 80% of time or so.
fuck left vs right
the true war is carb vs no carb
Lol carbs are bad cuz of pop tarts.
the holy carb wars have begun
I am sure potatoes lower your test levels too. Bro science says so
Well, the multiculturalist want ot shove processed food into our mouths and filth into our eyes and ears from controlled media so we stay feeble, preoccupied and docile because of low T
>I eat like caveman! Arrr
>so mainly insects, larvae, grains and berries?
>nah bro. Ribeye and brok.
insects are delicious
fried grasshoppers are GOAT
Butter in my coffee, just like dudes 5000 years ago. It must be true because vibram shoes with toes.
the tibetan lamas drink butter tea actually
they claim it is highly beneficial
People do that to coffee?
i think itβs called bullet coffee
wait itβs bulletproof
supposed to burn fat but I think itβs bs
I put coconut milk in mine, not bad
Coconut milk so good
I find it a good alternative to dairy, especially for a coffee creamer
Iβve only had almond and Iβm not the biggest fan. I only use it for shakes and cereal
does coconut milk taste too coconutty??????
No it doesn't taste coconutty some brands are more coconutty than others though
I've been blending it with cocoa powder, stevia and coffee and it's a pretty good "mocha"
I know SILK makes almond and coconut blended together. I may try that
It's pretty good
This is my favourite brand
I'm in Saudi right now and all I can find is canned crap
coconut milk is a way of life
It has the most neutral flavor
coconut>almond milk
Almond milk tastes like soggy almonds and water
^
but I tolerate it since I hate drinking dairy milk
Yeah me too lol
@Deleted User i may try your mocha recipe. I spend too much money at Starbucks
I tried all kinds of non dairy milks and coconut has been my favourite still
@Stephanie , it's not bad if you have good ingredients
same. coconut is one of the best types of fats as well
Agreed. I cook with coconut oil
Coconut oil is the best
coconut milk and baileys is lit
It's a very diverse and useful food item. You can get coconut "sugar," "flour," "milk" and "oil"
That is bretty cool
Iβve heard oat milk is more creamy?
It does have a ton of fat though
fat is good for you though
sugar is not
rice milk sounds like cancer
Rice milk isn't that good tbh
Sugar is cancer
It is thin as water
Iβve never tried coconut oil to cook with but it became pretty mainstream lately
I'm kinda curious about hemp milk though
try it and let me know haha
Iβm scared
Me too tbh π
Degenerate π
tfw hemp allergy
Ouch hemp seeds are pretty health
I prefer pumpkin seeds tbh
Max zinc
Hemp milk: a beany-nutty cream-flavored substance
According to Wikipedia
y u m
Iβm 2 str8 edge 4 hemp milk tbh
Hmm I'm not so sure about bean milk, soy milk is freakin gross
I don't want to be judged at the supermarket checkout
Lmao
Cause it's a hippy food
Someone soypill me
>not wearing a rasta hat and buying 4 containers of hemp milk at checkout
I won't buy soy milk. It'll turn you into a Soy Boy
I used to drink it in my Starbucks coffee sometimes
soy is a xenoestrogen
but can I be a soy girl
interestingly enough girls are fine to drink it
I eat soy pretty often
But it's ok for girls though
yeah Iβm a vegetarian so I eat a lot of soy based fake meats and stuff lol
Cool vegetarian
I was vegetarian for 4 years
but I couldn't get enough protein for weight lifting from it
just snort protein powder
Apparently Nazi Germany pushed vegetarianism
whey gets tiring pretty fast tbh
Did you try veg protein powder
and yeah hitler was a vegetarian
Iβve been one since I was 15. So about 5 years now
Vegan = Fashy
it unironically is, which is hilarious
Been dabbling with veganism
the nsdap pushed animal welfare and environmental conservation harder than any other government in history
For health n environmental reasons
i will probably be vegan at some point eventually
save da cows
I plan to become vegetarian again tbh
Wew it's easier now
when i've obtained the natty physique I want
yeah I think itβs healthier to cut out fatty meats for most people
I could never go vegan tho
Yeh the health benifet are pretty big
I don't think I can do it
muh eggs and dairy
Dairy is the hardest thing to cut out
Iβve been lacking a good diet ever since this semester started. 99% carbs
lol, muh proteinz
I only like egg whites, cheese, and ice cream
Vegan ice cream;)
I love egg yolks
they're so good for you
ice cream isn't my thing tbh
Same I prefer sorbet
same
I could eat ice cream every day and for every meal
what are some goood vegan brands
mango sorbet ππ»
The so delicious?
Omg the best
For vegan ice cream
Honestly I've liked every brand I've tried
coconut based ice cream is good
But the best one was the rice vanilla ice cream I got from whole foods
have you tried the ben and jerryβs?
I don't support Ben and jerry's
ben and jerry's is owned by far leftists
I KNOW
openly BLM
but ITS SO GOOD
fug
and I drink so much Starbucks
I am a slave
yeah I don't touch starbucks or ben and jerry's lol
Ouch why aren't you buying fashy coffee
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