#nutrition (Discord ID: 388502472102117376) in Fitness, page 1

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Deleted User 2017-12-08 03:02:26


ophiuchus 2017-12-08 03:05:01

Christmas dog

Deleted User 2017-12-08 03:15:45

Its ko🅱a

Deleted User 2017-12-08 03:15:47

not kobe

Deleted User 2017-12-08 03:15:56

Im not a nigger that plays basketball

Reinhard Wolff 2017-12-08 03:53:20

Are you sure about that?

MrDefault 2017-12-08 03:53:37

got em

Deleted User 2017-12-08 03:54:02

You mean a basketball American, have some class nigger.

Deleted User 2017-12-08 03:54:11
Deleted User 2017-12-08 03:54:31

tfw played basketball in middle school

Deleted User 2017-12-08 03:54:42

g-g-guys Im w-white right??

Guillaume 2017-12-08 03:54:55

Oy vey he used the hard R

Deleted User 2017-12-08 03:56:12

So why did we have a new fitness server?

Deleted User 2017-12-08 03:56:41

nathan owned the old one but his account was shut down so it doesnt have a technical owner

Deleted User 2017-12-08 03:56:53

so to be on the safe side a new one was proactively made

Praetorian 2017-12-08 04:24:59

@Deleted User Ape not kill ape.

whitenessSC 2017-12-08 04:30:55

Hey anybody tried a ketognic diet?? DM if you know about it

PicBoy 2017-12-08 04:32:23

I'm on it now. I'm not an expert but what do you want to know?

Praetorian 2017-12-08 04:37:52

Just so you gents are aware, a focus on high testosterone foods should be considered:

Olive oil
Blue cheese
White button mushrooms

Just a few ideas.

Praetorian 2017-12-08 04:38:38

Oh, and fish, especially tuna, which is high in omega fatty acids, helps testosterone levels.

PicBoy 2017-12-08 04:39:44

Those are all delicious foods too. Those really boost T levels?

Praetorian 2017-12-08 04:43:16


Praetorian 2017-12-08 04:43:34

Google it. Or duckduckgo it.

PicBoy 2017-12-08 04:45:12

So basically just eat like a med

Deleted User 2017-12-08 04:45:22

Be careful with fish consumption

Deleted User 2017-12-08 04:45:32

Mercury concentrates up the food chain

Deleted User 2017-12-08 04:45:44

Depends on where it's sourced from

PicBoy 2017-12-08 04:46:18

Aka no Delaware River catfish

Praetorian 2017-12-08 04:46:41

Yup. Tuna can be high in mercury. The larger the fish, generally the higher the mercury.

Praetorian 2017-12-08 04:47:18

Omega suppliments are also a good idea, and capsules are cheap.

Deleted User 2017-12-08 04:47:39

Labdoor.com keeps good rankings on those

Praetorian 2017-12-08 05:06:00


Deleted User 2017-12-08 05:28:59

Hot peppers also raise testosterone

Deleted User 2017-12-08 05:29:46

Well that explains my love of garlic

Deleted User 2017-12-08 05:29:53

And hot peppers

Deleted User 2017-12-08 05:30:06

And onions

Deleted User 2017-12-08 05:30:22

But I just can't back broccoli

Deleted User 2017-12-08 05:30:24

I've done extensive research in redpilled nutrition/how to raise T levels as a backdrop to my hobby as an amateur chef.

Deleted User 2017-12-08 05:30:44

I might do a write up tomorrow of a comprehensive list of what raises T levels, and what harms them.

CatoTheGreater - CA 2017-12-08 05:31:53

I've had the best results simply lifting heavy and at most supplementing with creatine. Bust your ass in the gym fuck all these bs hacks

eastern.patriarch 2017-12-08 05:32:09

Hot peppers, onions and fish oil along wiht brok and other veggies are great for you. Anybody that claims there is even a transient effect on your test levels with food is selling you bullshit. And if they are not, just ask for the labs. Test is some of the cheapest, easiest, insant labs you can get.

Deleted User 2017-12-08 05:32:13

Nutrition isn't BS. It's critical

eastern.patriarch 2017-12-08 05:32:38

who said nutrition is bs?

CatoTheGreater - CA 2017-12-08 05:32:58

Eat healthy but I'm just talking over thinking I never said nutrition was bs

eastern.patriarch 2017-12-08 05:34:17

Nutrition is crucial to manage your insulin, ldl, hdl, mood, bone density etc. It will not change your test level. But you don't need to argue. Just go get tested before and after and post your results. Simple. If you don't have that, you don't know.

CatoTheGreater - CA 2017-12-08 05:34:47

Results speak for themselves

Deleted User 2017-12-08 05:34:47

It's still true that different foods have different effects on you physically, and there is great benefit to fine-tuning a diet

Deleted User 2017-12-08 05:35:21

and obviously nutrition and fitness go hand in hand. Everyone here should be working out

eastern.patriarch 2017-12-08 05:36:57

I don't think there is a single person here that is arguing that pop tarts and soda is good nutrition. That is not the topic of conversation. The topic was nonsense bro science about test levels being affected by food. If you trully have an enoctrine problem, go get tested and seek treatment.

CatoTheGreater - CA 2017-12-08 05:39:30

I guess I was just speaking in regards to beginners. If you're more advanced by all means get tested and fine tune your nutrition. I just personally had that issue starting out and being bogged down by an overabundance of info that's all

Praetorian 2017-12-08 05:43:10

Certain foods do raise T levels, just as soy lowers T levels.

Deleted User 2017-12-08 05:43:16


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eastern.patriarch 2017-12-08 05:46:31

Here is the thing to keep in mind, and I really every man here thinks this through. Your health is the most important thing you have. Testostorone production in your body like insulin production or adrenal function or kidney function has an optimal range for your body that might or might not be the range that your body is producing such hormone. Some endoctrine systems are very responsive to outside influence, i.e. prolonged high glucose diet can bring about insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. If you have low testostorone, aka hypogonadism you are at higher risk of bone fractures, heart disease, depression. You need to get that looked at and remedied. If your test level is normal, the you can follow bro science.

eastern.patriarch 2017-12-08 05:47:51

Lol, hard science. How many percentage points does egg yolk raise test levels in men with primary or seconday hypogonadism? I don't see an answer in there.

Deleted User 2017-12-08 05:47:59

Astorg P. (2005). [Dietary fatty acids and colorectal and prostate cancers: epidemiological studies].
Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. (2012). Prostate cancer: Six things men should know about tomatoes, fish oil, vitamin supplements, testosterone, PSA Tests - and more [Press release].
Lee DM, et al. (2012). Association of hypogonadism with vitamin D status: The European male aging study.
Low Testosterone and Men’s Health [Fact sheet]. (2012).
Pilz S, et al. (2011). Effect of vitamin D supplementation on testosterone levels in men [Abstract].
Wehr E, et al. (2010). Association of vitamin D status with serum androgen levels in men [Abstract].

Deleted User 2017-12-08 05:48:03

There you go.

eastern.patriarch 2017-12-08 05:48:31

Here is another one for you. Holding guns vs babies.

eastern.patriarch 2017-12-08 05:49:28

Why don't you run labcorp, eat a shit ton of eggs and then run the test again?

eastern.patriarch 2017-12-08 05:50:15

Do you know how you solve VitD deficiency today if you ar enot a farm worker. Yes pills. Not rubbing onion juice on your temples.

CatoTheGreater - CA 2017-12-08 05:50:42

@Deleted User what I read is you need zinc and vitamin d. Why not just supplement?

eastern.patriarch 2017-12-08 05:51:10

Don't suplement if you are not deficient. WHy would you do that?

Deleted User 2017-12-08 05:51:49

The onion shit is a meme tbh. And yeah supplements for both these things are helpful. Although there is less bioavailability in vitamins as opposed to getting it naturally from food.

CatoTheGreater - CA 2017-12-08 05:52:43

During the winter you will be. But like caco said the vitamins are less bioavailabile

Deleted User 2017-12-08 05:52:46

You need to eat anyway. Why not focus your diet around foods heavy in vitamins and minerals beneficial to T and muscle development?

CatoTheGreater - CA 2017-12-08 05:53:31


Deleted User 2017-12-08 05:53:47

A diet heavy in polysaturated fats and protein is ideal for this.

CatoTheGreater - CA 2017-12-08 05:55:49

You've convinced me. No more depending on 12hr sleep sessions and squats for t

Deleted User 2017-12-08 05:56:37

tfw if I don't set an alarm I regularly sleep 10-12 hours

CatoTheGreater - CA 2017-12-08 05:57:50

Your body needs it. Like fuck you caco I'm recovering

Deleted User 2017-12-08 05:58:21

Yeah pretty much, I'm pretty harsh on myself

Deleted User 2017-12-08 05:58:41

Had about 300 cal of eggs and a cup of coffee this morning at 8

Deleted User 2017-12-08 05:58:53

Worked + 2 hours at the gym

Deleted User 2017-12-08 05:59:06

It's 1am and I still haven't eaten since

CatoTheGreater - CA 2017-12-08 05:59:41

That's.. not Goodman

Deleted User 2017-12-08 06:00:03

The gf is making lamb chops right now so I'm set

Deleted User 2017-12-08 06:00:11

but yeah I do this regularly

CatoTheGreater - CA 2017-12-08 06:00:13


Deleted User 2017-12-08 07:18:13

Does anyone prescribe to a Paleo diet/lifestyle? I've been on it for over two months and it's given me considerable benefits

Argument of Perigee 2017-12-08 07:47:48

I've been Paleo for nearly seven years. There have been varying degrees of strictness modifications to stop myself from becoming too thin. It totally changed my gastrointestinal system. I'm very fond of the lifestyle.

Deleted User 2017-12-08 07:48:49

@Argument of Perigee , I find it far easier and better for me than strict calorie counting. I find myself keeping good muscle mass and far more energy

Argument of Perigee 2017-12-08 07:52:47

Yea, calories have no meaning to me with Paleo. I'll eat 3 ribeye steaks for dinner if I want--no fat gain. I've got a very tall & slender build; even so, people see me destroying massive amounts of meat and are speechless at how I maintain my body.

Argument of Perigee 2017-12-08 07:53:02

Keep at it if it suits you and has great results.

Deleted User 2017-12-08 07:53:58

I'm glad it works for you as well. Definitely re-affirmation for me that I'm doing the right thing. Thank you.

PicBoy 2017-12-08 16:17:43

Can you guys explain the benefits paleo is giving you. For instance I've been on keto a few months and it's given me way more energy during the midday when I used to get tired. Do you guys see anything similar from paleo?

Deleted User 2017-12-08 16:46:49

I actually follow a loose form of paleo - a poor man's paleo if you will

Deleted User 2017-12-08 16:47:09

I've cut out 90% of carbs. My diet is meat and veggies essentially

Deleted User 2017-12-08 16:47:30

I can confirm that even following it loosely, there are obvious and strong benefits

shyguy 2017-12-08 16:47:37

carbs are important for CNS recover and all sorts of other things

shyguy 2017-12-08 16:47:58

paleo is dumb dude stop

Deleted User 2017-12-08 16:48:10

carbs are literally jewish satan

shyguy 2017-12-08 16:48:27

carbs are totally essentiall for muscle building

shyguy 2017-12-08 16:48:39

you need carbs as much as fat and protein

Karl 2017-12-08 16:49:51


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shyguy 2017-12-08 16:50:10

i have a hard time bel;iving your body is recovering at an opitimal rate if your doing heavy compound movments and eating minimal carbs

Deleted User 2017-12-08 16:50:11

the carbohydrate jew

Deleted User 2017-12-08 16:51:03

I get all the carbs I need from vegetables tbh

shyguy 2017-12-08 16:51:19

i highly doubt thath

Deleted User 2017-12-08 16:51:32

fuck grains 😤

shyguy 2017-12-08 16:52:23

if your doing any kind of deadlift or squat progressions im not sure how your able to keep super low carbs and increase your numbers over reasonable time intervals

shyguy 2017-12-08 16:52:47

particularly deadlift

Deleted User 2017-12-08 16:53:08

I deadlifted last night, 3 reps of 12

Deleted User 2017-12-08 16:53:21

Whey protein shakes should be fine for recovery

shyguy 2017-12-08 16:53:50

The biggest issue with deadlifting is Central Nervous System fatigue

shyguy 2017-12-08 16:53:59

protein wont help

shyguy 2017-12-08 16:54:09

you need carbs and fat

Deleted User 2017-12-08 17:06:21

bruh carbs are op tf y'all on about

Deleted User 2017-12-08 17:07:03

carbs help me out alot

Deleted User 2017-12-08 17:39:50

You can get enough carbs from vegetables and plenty of energy from fats and oils used in cooking and inherent in food. The idea is to cut out garbage, prcoessed foods with tons of sugar and unnecessary carbohydrates.

Deleted User 2017-12-08 17:41:44

Eat one ingredient foods. Organic, grass fed and ethically sourced is preferable, depending on budget and availability of course

Deleted User 2017-12-08 17:45:14

Potatoes and rice are fine in moderation if you feel like you're dragging and need extra energy for endurance and performance. However, sweet potatoes are considered far more preferable over white ones (White Potatoes Matter!) for their higher nutrient value

shyguy 2017-12-08 18:36:53

sure you CAN get enough carbs out of just veggies but are you likely to? im skeptical. i agree with your point about processed food. organic is meh. carbs serve many more functions then simply supplying energy they are ESSENTIAL for muscle growth. nothing wrong with eating bread and pasta ect.

Ekdromoi 2017-12-08 18:37:30


Deleted User 2017-12-08 18:41:25

@shyguy, I suppose it's a matter of lifestyle and what diet you want for yrouself. Not trying to push Paleo, just answering some questions about it. I have a day where I carb-out for mental health. You can't eat perfect all the time, plus having intermittent processed carbohydrates such as bread and pasta can jumpstart fat burning. I think it's a good idea to eat strictly 80% of time or so.

Deleted User 2017-12-08 18:41:54

fuck left vs right

Deleted User 2017-12-08 18:42:00

the true war is carb vs no carb

eastern.patriarch 2017-12-08 18:42:07

Lol carbs are bad cuz of pop tarts.

Deleted User 2017-12-08 18:42:22

the holy carb wars have begun

eastern.patriarch 2017-12-08 18:42:42

I am sure potatoes lower your test levels too. Bro science says so

Deleted User 2017-12-08 18:43:22

Well, the multiculturalist want ot shove processed food into our mouths and filth into our eyes and ears from controlled media so we stay feeble, preoccupied and docile because of low T

eastern.patriarch 2017-12-08 18:45:31

>I eat like caveman! Arrr
>so mainly insects, larvae, grains and berries?
>nah bro. Ribeye and brok.

Deleted User 2017-12-08 18:45:42

insects are delicious

Deleted User 2017-12-08 18:45:49

fried grasshoppers are GOAT

eastern.patriarch 2017-12-08 18:48:15

Butter in my coffee, just like dudes 5000 years ago. It must be true because vibram shoes with toes.

Deleted User 2017-12-08 18:49:22

the tibetan lamas drink butter tea actually

Deleted User 2017-12-08 18:49:34

they claim it is highly beneficial

Deleted User 2017-12-08 18:49:36

People do that to coffee?

Stephanie 2017-12-08 18:49:52

i think it’s called bullet coffee

Stephanie 2017-12-08 18:50:16

wait it’s bulletproof

Stephanie 2017-12-08 18:50:27

supposed to burn fat but I think it’s bs

Deleted User 2017-12-08 18:51:31

I put coconut milk in mine, not bad

Brooke 2017-12-08 18:56:38

Coconut milk so good

Deleted User 2017-12-08 18:57:13

I find it a good alternative to dairy, especially for a coffee creamer

Stephanie 2017-12-08 18:57:45

I’ve only had almond and I’m not the biggest fan. I only use it for shakes and cereal

Stephanie 2017-12-08 18:58:01

does coconut milk taste too coconutty??????

Brooke 2017-12-08 18:58:38

No it doesn't taste coconutty some brands are more coconutty than others though

Deleted User 2017-12-08 18:58:47

I've been blending it with cocoa powder, stevia and coffee and it's a pretty good "mocha"

Stephanie 2017-12-08 18:59:19

I know SILK makes almond and coconut blended together. I may try that

Brooke 2017-12-08 18:59:41

It's pretty good

Brooke 2017-12-08 18:59:46


Brooke 2017-12-08 18:59:55

This is my favourite brand

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:00:04

I'm in Saudi right now and all I can find is canned crap

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:00:04

coconut milk is a way of life

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:00:11

It has the most neutral flavor

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:00:25

coconut>almond milk

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:00:34

Almond milk tastes like soggy almonds and water

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:00:38


Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:00:45

but I tolerate it since I hate drinking dairy milk

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:00:55

Yeah me too lol

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:01:20

@Deleted User i may try your mocha recipe. I spend too much money at Starbucks

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:01:31

I tried all kinds of non dairy milks and coconut has been my favourite still

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:02:00

@Stephanie , it's not bad if you have good ingredients

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:02:07

same. coconut is one of the best types of fats as well

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:02:21

Agreed. I cook with coconut oil

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:02:41

Coconut oil is the best

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:02:49

coconut milk and baileys is lit

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:02:51

It's a very diverse and useful food item. You can get coconut "sugar," "flour," "milk" and "oil"

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:03:28

That is bretty cool

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:04:16

I’ve heard oat milk is more creamy?

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:04:17

It does have a ton of fat though

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:04:42

fat is good for you though

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:04:44

sugar is not

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:04:48

rice milk sounds like cancer

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:04:58

Rice milk isn't that good tbh

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:05:02

Sugar is cancer

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:05:06

It is thin as water

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:05:32

I’ve never tried coconut oil to cook with but it became pretty mainstream lately

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:05:43

I'm kinda curious about hemp milk though

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:06:07

try it and let me know haha

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:06:09

I’m scared

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:06:18

Me too tbh 😂

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:06:45

Degenerate 😉

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:06:59

tfw hemp allergy

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:07:30

Ouch hemp seeds are pretty health

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:07:46

I prefer pumpkin seeds tbh

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:07:53

Max zinc

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:08:16

Hemp milk: a beany-nutty cream-flavored substance

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:08:20

According to Wikipedia

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:08:23

y u m

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:08:54

I’m 2 str8 edge 4 hemp milk tbh

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:08:58

Hmm I'm not so sure about bean milk, soy milk is freakin gross

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:09:09

I don't want to be judged at the supermarket checkout

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:09:16


Brooke 2017-12-08 19:09:38

Cause it's a hippy food

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:09:39

Someone soypill me

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:09:45

>not wearing a rasta hat and buying 4 containers of hemp milk at checkout

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:09:58

I won't buy soy milk. It'll turn you into a Soy Boy

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:10:01

I used to drink it in my Starbucks coffee sometimes

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:10:07

soy is a xenoestrogen

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:10:08

but can I be a soy girl

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:10:17

interestingly enough girls are fine to drink it

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:10:23

I eat soy pretty often

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:10:37

But it's ok for girls though

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:10:39

yeah I’m a vegetarian so I eat a lot of soy based fake meats and stuff lol

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:10:52

Cool vegetarian

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:10:59

I was vegetarian for 4 years

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:11:09

but I couldn't get enough protein for weight lifting from it

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:11:29

just snort protein powder

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:11:40

Apparently Nazi Germany pushed vegetarianism

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:11:44

whey gets tiring pretty fast tbh

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:11:45

Did you try veg protein powder

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:11:50

and yeah hitler was a vegetarian

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:11:50

I’ve been one since I was 15. So about 5 years now

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:11:55

Vegan = Fashy

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:12:05

it unironically is, which is hilarious

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:12:13

Been dabbling with veganism

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:12:43

the nsdap pushed animal welfare and environmental conservation harder than any other government in history

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:12:44

For health n environmental reasons

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:12:44

i will probably be vegan at some point eventually

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:12:53

save da cows

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:13:00

I plan to become vegetarian again tbh

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:13:10

Wew it's easier now

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:13:15

when i've obtained the natty physique I want

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:13:20

yeah I think it’s healthier to cut out fatty meats for most people

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:13:42

I could never go vegan tho

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:13:45

Yeh the health benifet are pretty big

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:13:46

I don't think I can do it

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:13:47

muh eggs and dairy

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:14:12

Dairy is the hardest thing to cut out

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:14:12

I’ve been lacking a good diet ever since this semester started. 99% carbs

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:14:17

lol, muh proteinz

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:14:27

I only like egg whites, cheese, and ice cream

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:14:42

Vegan ice cream;)

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:14:48

I love egg yolks

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:14:58

they're so good for you

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:15:07

ice cream isn't my thing tbh

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:15:17

Same I prefer sorbet

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:15:23


Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:15:30

I could eat ice cream every day and for every meal

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:15:36

what are some goood vegan brands

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:15:41

mango sorbet 👌🏻

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:15:45

The so delicious?

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:15:45

Omg the best

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:15:54

For vegan ice cream

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:16:08

Honestly I've liked every brand I've tried

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:16:16

coconut based ice cream is good

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:16:33

But the best one was the rice vanilla ice cream I got from whole foods

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:16:40

have you tried the ben and jerry’s?

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:16:49

I don't support Ben and jerry's

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:16:53

ben and jerry's is owned by far leftists

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:16:56


Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:16:57

openly BLM

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:17:00


Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:17:02


Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:17:09

and I drink so much Starbucks

Stephanie 2017-12-08 19:17:16

I am a slave

Deleted User 2017-12-08 19:17:24

yeah I don't touch starbucks or ben and jerry's lol

Brooke 2017-12-08 19:17:32

Ouch why aren't you buying fashy coffee

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