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All the science here is social science though!
You must add more!
Anyone read all of Henry Fordโs The international Jew? Itโs remarkable
No, but it's on my list @Myndrian
I got it on my Pocket and itโs blowing my mind that this was written in 1920 or so with such clarity
I've had a decent amount of books I've been meaning to get to, but a mix of work and laziness has slowed my progress
itโs difficult for sure. But if you ever want some salient quotes from it Iโll share. Awesome one liners and the such. The older writers I feel had a better hold on language
For sure, there's always a noticeable difference in the language and jargon used in older novels from more recent works
your "Pocket?" @Myndrian
Itโs an app that saves articles or PDFs files for offline use
So whenever Iโm waiting or hanging out somewhere I can pull up full books I found for free like Macdonalds trilogy or other ones
I'd also recommend *The Passing of The Great Race* by Madison Grant. I've only found it in PDFs as it's from the 1910s I believe, but if you enjoy eBooks, I'd check it out @Myndrian
Ok thanks!
Yep
It was written hundreds of years before The International Jew. It's surprisingly funny as well.
Ok Iโll check it out
I reading International Jew rn
Awesome. Every chapter is gold
Heavy stuff. Itโs just simply fun haha
People are reading the culture of critique
The audio version of the International Jew is on VVN forum along with a ton of other audiobooks.
Itโs disturbing how otherwise intelligent people can act like ostrichโs in respect to the perfidy of Jews
I love the chapter of him covering the Protocols
VNN. not VVN
Im currently on Chapter 45 and it only gets better.
Like 20% in on my kindle. It's really comprehensive and multi-faceted in the way he brings the information to the reader. Fills you in through many angles, perspectives, examples both past and present, etc. I love that Henry Ford is the source too. Clearly a brilliant man that many normie Americans hold in a positive light.
By source I meant author but source in the sense that that's who you wanna sight when talking with those close to you. Not some obscure Jew or random article from the 20's. Ford holds some authority in the minds of many whites.
Ya I usually use Ford when talking to close family members and slowly red pilling. Like jokingly saying he was an Anti Semite
And going from there
Anyone in here interested in irl community building? I have some ideas I'd like to share
Flip yeah...I'm intrigued.
My idea focuses around homeschooling.
Deep down, I want a commune, but that's unrealistic for me.
I'm clueless. I have no children yet.
I want to cast a wider net. Something easier to get behind. Higher numbers
That's ok. Me neither. No girl either.
Adjust your time preference my nibba!
Same, cool. What's the concept?
Enough people you live close enough to to homeschool each other's kids.
With the goal of acquiring property and building an actual schoolhouse
Whether it's suburban, urban, rural, find a land close enough to build the structure where each and everyone can potentially commute to.
It came from me realizing that: I want a family; community; want to have kids educated outside of globohomo with strong values; this necessitates community since homeschooling your kids totally solo makes your kids weird; eventually will need a schoolhouse to further formalize and grow said community
it's radical but much easier to get enough people behind vs. a full on commune imo
Yeah, we need to find a suitable state...Arizona isn't bad, I would rather avoid vaccination, so that will get tricky.
physical structures and space is powerful
I'm open to location.
It's a shareable idea
something I want to talk out with interested parties
the idea is getting enough folks in the same area to really move forward with it.
Combination of reaching out via IE and locally, both tough in differing ways, to form a large enough group.
May or may not necessitate relocating for some.
It's a tangible project that, for me, is exciting. Building a schoolhouse. Our own institution
Even if you're single and broke, you can still offer up sweat equity. Contribute any way you can.
Those with families already can get involved with their own kids for the sake of their future kids and/or kids' kids.
No one in this movement, and those on the peripheries, are in the same point in life.
True
It won't be about just your own immediate family right now, it's working towards an ideal and getting as many involved as possible.
That's the main thrust of my idea, your thoughts?
Any ideas you'd like to share?
There are a lot of home schooling "CoOps", I don't know much about them. Maybe we can search statistics on where the largest homeschool population is...
There definitely are. They're just often VERY leftist or fundamentalist Christian. I don't relate to either.
I'm fine with faith, and having it in school. I just don't want the school to be a de facto religious program
The lefties are super "unschooly" and gay...I can handle the Christians but some of the ready made curricula I've seen suuuuuucks.
Good point I suppose
Yeah, bad. I'm less concerned with the curriculum.
Some poz has been snuck in
More concerned with numbers and a physical structure.
The more numbers = the more knowledge and experience we have to pull from for teaching methods and the like.
Yeah, everyday can be career day.
But I'm certainly open to shooting the shit so to speak
I'll ponder on this a bit.
I just don't want the idea to get bogged down in people sperging out over curriculum when we live however far apart, have no physical space/structure, etc.
"if you build it they will come" sort of thing
Have you joined the Skills Server?
No.
Get in.
I'll look into it.
Some good people.
They may have already gone pretty far on what you're after.
I'm new. You're the first person I've had a chance to unload my thoughts on the matter on
Texas has a lot of HS
where can i find the skills server? I'm very new to discord as well?
Contact @ThisIsChris He'll get you in. (Probably tomorrow)
Ya, I'm interested in your conversation Freiheit and Mick. A lot of ideas will have to be filtered through to really figure out how we are going to survive as whites. It is kind of fashioning a group evolutionary strategy from the ground up, to compete with others groups. Since we are very individualistic as whites I'm sure it will be difficult at first maybe but overall we do need to band together in the physical environment and on stuff like Discord for sure.
I wouldn't say that whites are individualistic. I think our individualism is a product of the French Revolution and Classical Liberal thought permeating our societies over the last centuries. Individualism is not a natural instinct for peoples who would die in the winter if they didn't work together.
Whites acted on a familial level just a few decades ago.
You think so? I've heard quite different. That we are individualistic BECAUSE of the Ice Age. That men could only provide for about one wife and their own children, so they tended toward isolation
However, individualism is in our blood.
@Myndrian I tend to agree.
Ya whatever I've learned I tend to borrow from Kevin Macdonald
We are individuals but we have strong familial ties.
Yes, but not near as collectivist and herdthink as other cultures in my opinion
That's the greatest "collectivism" that we can have: family.
@Myndrian Herdthink cultures are big ghey.
Groupthink gets you killed in an advanced society. It's dangerous.
Individualism is just a diluted form of heroic virtue.
stripped only to its most intuitive and noncomplex components.
I totally agree. Most of my life has been doing the opposite or learning that the cookiecutter mold brings a lot of damage to individuals
You don't want as cookiecutter mold.
That's a bad idea for a society. It brings everyone down to the least common denominator.
organization needs to be institutional and on a family level
I think that individualism is why whites make such great institutions.
We have to.
I agree too. I dont know a lot about it. But from what little I know, if we are the most individualistic people when it comes to scientific revolutions we have many more pathfinders and inventors because they tend to know how to reject common knowledge when needed
But alas when in group competition we falter for a time
Yes. However, until recently, we had good sportsmanship.
That competition worked for us.
We don't have to become minorities in mindset to survive.
We just have to create institutions that will shield us.
We're individualistic but not so much at the expense of others. We take pride in lifting one another up and seeing them do their best. The two, individual and collective, have gone hand-in-hand in our culture.
That's my though wrt to institutions. My idea is enough folks willing to contribute time, money, sweat to teaching the next generation. This broad idea is very important to get behind. Teaching and sharing knowledge and values with our kids and literally building physical structures.
A 'schoolhouse' idea can be implemented in rural, suburban and even urban environments.
I agree.
A weightroom/gym is also a great way to get together. The idea is land, space. Shit, you can build a little spot and fill it with weights and that's how you could start.
IE weightroom ftw
Pipedream=commune/wn community. It's what I want but how many people can you reliably get committed to that?
Well. Look at history.
There are tightly knit communities.
You can build a schoolhouse and still be engaged in today's society. Still work your desk job. Etc...
You can have as large of a community as you can keep up with.
If you can great. It's definitely doable. I'm aiming for a bigger tent.
But the schoolhouse could be a gateway to an intentional community. Ideally, I'd want to get enough acreage to allow for all sorts of expansion. More structures, growing of food, cattle, even housing; see, my hearts in a community. I want the initial bar to entry to be lower, though. Schoolhouse seems to fit that bill for me.
Indeed.
However, do keep in mind that such a community is restricted to about 150 people.
Even if its not your kids, presently or if you presently have none, you can contribute
by human nature, that's about the max that we can keep up with
That's not a bad thing though. You can have other communities overlap.
It could snowball very very quickly to a MUCH larger number
and 150 people feels like a lot more
agreed
True and it likely will.
However, 150 people is about as much as you can reasonably keep up with.
that's why the schoolhouse is the best approach.
^
agreed
Again, strength in numbers. Low bar to entry. But meaningful and lasting impact
agreed
most intelligent thing that I've seen in a while
Don't mean to lecture, I just haven't been able to flesh out these ideas until now. New to IE
Thanks! I really appreciate it. Just had my thinking cap on for awhile.
np
@Mick I came to a similar conclusion about a week ago. However, I didn't think about the schoolhouse thing.
Yeah. Spent some time living in a very back-to-the-land, homesteadified area in the midwest for a couple years. Started with some farm work and then stayed. It's a common theme, but I experienced a from of hyper white flight. Liberal urbanites fled the city and build small homesteads, small businesses, etc. in a small, low-cost living town. They also poz it up. More and more so over time. I got red-pilled there, but wanted some variation of that lifestyle.
Eventually, as my desire for family and community developed, and then my awareness of how my kids would then be therefore taught and raised I started to think how I can achieve some balance.
Schools. These white-flighter anti-racists often enroll or start up Waldorf schools. I figured, traditionalists should do just that.
This area had some money and support from Big Organic in terms of jobs and creating an environment. But the area has grown wuickly since the 90's and seems to quickly asserting itself over the local normie republican population.
Won't reveal the exact location to avoid doxxing but maybe in the future I will. Seems relatively safe to do so here
Well guys I know I didnโt interact much (doing school while I listened), but thanks for the discussion. I love our community and enjoy watching it grow.
Lol just noticed voice doesnโt seem to be chatting here, gonna repost in relevant chat if I can find it ๐
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