Oh yeah

Guess it's different

http://autoworkerslim.blogspot.com/2017/12/my-journey-from-quiet-democrat-to.html

It's kind of long, but that's how I believed I got redpilled last year, before I started thinking about the situation with Nugget and the events that followed

regarding the gay mafia shit

I was watching some old tv shows and movies such as the wire and boondock saints

they all push the gay and drag normalization agenday

agenda*

Did they?

Boondocks Saints at least

The Wire did so too

I did not watch that scene and get any impression that this was supposed to be seen as normal.

more like pushing gay guys as brilliant badass

that's how I read it at least

more like a pattern

I don't know, I kinda took it as everything about him was just so weird and fucked up that maybe being a brilliant detective/investigator/whatever he was was just one more way that he was fucked up.

maybe

Now that I can see.

hey people, whats going on

Hollywood elites equate to manchildren

That can legally fuck

more of a satanic cult

I wouldn't give them that much credit.

not smart but degenerates

They're clearly disconnected though

puppets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUrBKFG9Ilw

They are more like the guy that gets murdered in the satanic ritual, but is too stupid to catch on to it until too late even though the cult is super obvious about their intentions.

new change my mind from crowder ^^

oh gotta hop on to that

audio is kinda messed up on the video though

watching clear and present danger with Harrison Ford, will catch it later

oh yeah, that's free on prime right now. I just got done with the book not that long ago

Better than most action stuff these days

my internet sucks donkey balls

Stop torrenting dolphin porn then, lad

lol just streaming amazon prime

Huh, I didn't realize Amazon Prime had dolphin porn.

roflmao

Dugin,,, the man that will make you feel contrived about your individualism/collective ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uSuwYcqSsY

whos gonna be on for the call in show tomorrow?

I will be, in celebration of last day of school

nice

took my break at work for the google hangout and its full on tuesday afternoon lmao

I might put another video in. I want to see blonde's head explode

@IDontHaveAIDSBro i got on the hangout just fine

what time did you try to get on?

nigger tesla

cracker apple

@Ragglefraggle07 2:30

thats when i could take my break at my desk

alright fellas, help me pick what to talk about on the call tomorrow: https://www.strawpoll.me/15886992

Please vote, democracy is important and necessary

You fine Americans need to help out Canada

Send some Trump juice up here so we can make a real leader

fuck that I want to invade. We need Warsaw pact but for Canada - we split Canada w/ North Korea and we both invade

this week fucking sucks

lost 2 friends in 2 days

now some kid is threatening to shoot up the school and another on is threatening to shoot up the funerals we cant figure out who it is

this is fucking horrible

idek what to do

Wow. Sorry to hear, mate.

First of all, sorry to hear that. Love and support here for you and yours.

Second, on a lighter note, how are you all still in school? it's June?

Shit sucks man

They have us go to school 10 months a year 40 ish hours a week and wonder why people are dropping like flies

Which state?

WA

I'm going to bible study tonight fellow patricians

I think im gonna miss the call

and calls for the future

have a good time errybody

hey everybody

Hi

you always know when it's ten minutes to show on discord

machine gun notifications

yeah

Why would you not turn off notifications on discord? 😁

they are off on my laptop, but I'm at work

they're also muted on my phone

@Matt Christiansen can y'all pull me sometime early I'm taking my dad to the hospital so I don't when I might have to talk

How does this work

@Blonde in the Belly of the Beast it's the server

That muted me

@Matt Christiansen the server

@Matt Christiansen

@at0m

Can u get a hold of matt for me

I'm muted on the server

But not on my end

Is it because of my phone

Is there a normal server for this community?

<@&240173760370573322> <@&281595144212447232>

Like not just call in, for the normal memes and shit

Illinois just overruled the Deerfield AR ban...

who caught Dave Rubin on Rogan today

Watching it right after this

I am def checking out the Rubin on Rogan right after this

maryland is still a terrible state regardless

but before I continue, you gotta check out Movement watches! they're just.. (dies inside).. fantastic!

lies i am a patreon

Bol and Branch made from ORGANIC cotton.... like there is any other kind of cotton?

Cotton picked from machines and not a groups of chocolate Americans

Finally a Patron

grats!

I know Im waiting to be knighted orange

It’s sad that it’s taken me this long to do it.

there are still many of us who haven't, don't be sad

Ive been a patron for about two months now but I just sent the message to Matt tonight to be marked orange.. I hadn't tried to figure out the call in discord shit

I became a patron after checking and seeing that matt has almost double the patron as blonde and pissed blonde is a major part of why i love the show

The wife and I have a kid on the way so she wants to talk pregnancy with blonde and I want to talk shit with Matt

grats on the incoming kid!

@Pnakotus thanks!

Gnite

@AmongstEnemies#1282 there are separate rooms in the server like <#358326373594693642> <#266396659062145025> and the like. Feel free to post whatever you want in those rooms (within reason).

anyone else watch Owen Benjamin on youtube?

I try to, but with two jobs, I can't add two more hours into each day

i used to, kinda

He just posted a new video responding to some of the things Sam Harris said on Dave Rubin, and I felt like talking about it

i usually watch his shows that he posts

When he's good he's ok....

Well I definitely endorse the work he does and all that but his last couple of videos really rubbed me the wrong way

Rubin or Benjamin?

in what way?

Benjamin

Well it is kind of complicated but basically he talks about religion in this video and its "necessity" but I really don't like his arguments

what kind of religion does he talk about?

isn't he jewish?

is he?? I figured he's Christian

He just talks about it in general, responding to Sam Harris basically saying that religion isn't a necessary causal factor for morality

mhh

just ignore religious part, then

there is not much you can do

well I'm interested in engaging in the conversation about it but I felt really weird about the way he structured his arguments

I haven't watched the video, but I do think that religion plays/played a big part in the formation of morality

so you have nothing against religion, you are just troubled by the quality of his arguments?

I have nothing against religion, but I also don't think it's fair to say that atheism is immoral because you need religion in order to have morality

There is truth to that

but there have also been 2000 years of Abrahamic religion shaping thought in the West

Not saying that religion is 100%, but it certainly is a good chunk

Ok but even accepting that fact, I can easily come up for a logical way for an objective morality to come about without the involvement of religion

There have been 5000 years of Abrahamic religion

okay 5000 years

sorry

should have said Christian 😛

i think religion played as an important role as farming did

10000 years

farming? never heard that one

now you have

i just broke your conditioning

Ok, so how farming?

if we were hunter gathers i think we would have different religion.

ya know food

at least that's my hypothesis

when an excess of food became avalible (farming) the oppertunity to persue other goals became present

well I guess I can see it.

religion in my mind is a product of civilization

if youre living with a few others, in a tight knit group, there isn't a need for ritual or belief to keep the cohesion

Farming means relying on each other for food > We must rely on each other to survive > Logically must come up with a morality that fosters group survival

The larger the group, the more you need a common factor to keep everyone in line

religion is a product of conecpts that cannot yet be ........rationalized..........explained.......understoood........sharable.......

But even nomadic tribes had large groups

i should ask what you consider a typical hunter/gatherer group size to be?

there were sun gods when we could not understand WHY the sun rose

probably anywhere from 10 to like 150

but in north america it was probably waaay more than that

hmm I take back my opinion then

i don't know what typical hunter/gatherer group size is. there are very few of them left now a days. we should look at them. maybe it would give us some ideas

I can see how religion can form even in small groups

well yeah of course

but there's an easy way to have a shared moral code without religion

I agree

the question is how far back religion formed? homo erectus?

We don't want to die -> must rely on each other to not die -> must also trust each other to not die -> don't harm or betray other members of your species

religion formed......what does that mean?

ooh and there's also the whole thing about intersubjectivity

when religion appeared

You talking about in general or monotheistic?

ok, so define religion?

like theology?

https://www.google.com/search?q=religion+definition

a group of ppl believing in a diety?

that one

"the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods."

well animism existed for a really long time

shamanism too

I don't know if we can prove it but I bet belief in spirits in nature exists as far back as communication does

the bird knows when it rains, the worms will rise to the surface for easy feeding.........do the birds have a rain god.......is that a religion?

birds lack a concept of belief

more like pattern recognition

"The remains of one of the earliest anatomically modern humans to be cremated was buried near Lake Mungo." -40,000 BCE

I disagree, the bids belivie, that when it rains, there will be worms

so does belief = religion?

thats more my question

Thats biological instinct not belief

is the rain " superhuman controlling power"

then I'd say it's any belief in the supernatural

that's also shared amongst a group

I think the bides belive it is

*birds

so is religion an instinct run a mock?

I think the most basic reason to have religion (in an evolutionary sense) is in order to not kill yourself because we're all gonna die anyway

well 'religion' in the more modern sense..........are man made instutions

I think it's to help facilitate meaning in order to make life worthwhile

^^

not even to make it worthwhile, but to see cause and effect in nature

the trees grow because the tree gods willed them to

or perhaps each tree is a lesser spirit under the guidance of a forest god

either way lol

i think very strong beliefs of u-understood knowledge is basically religion, which predates humans.......to answer your question....

*un-

misunderstood?

un-understood

not understood

gotcha

I don't think you can say religion exists if people can't communicate that religion to each other, and that would apply to animals

The bids know nothing of precipitation, evaporation, boiling tempature......

and religion does require worship

*birds

there's a difference between religion and superstition

only that rain = worms

but do the birds actively worship a rain god in hopes he will grant them a blessing?

do the birds not pray for rain?

yes but they don't "think" about that cause and effect, their instincts just bring them in the direction of the worms because they evolved to doso

i suspect they perfom 'rituals' so that they find the lands in which there is rain....

evidence?

i think our brains are too big. stuff starts to form on it's own. pattern recognition engine never stops to work. that's why so many people are susceptible to conspiracies and religion.

I think you could definitely say that there's an adaptive reason for that

but not a genetic one**

yeah beliefs and religion are not genetic

it would be a behavioral adaptation

fair enough eric.......but look at any animal........what they thrive for (an ideal) & the repeating (sorry should be better word).....actions they do....

I don't know if you could even say that animals "thrive"

a lot of what drives animals to do what they do is instinct

butterflies go to S. America........is it instinct, or religion?

just like we can't control vitamin D forming in our skin, we can't control patterns forming in our brains

instinct

why?

its like salmon spawning season

whats the difference?

I mean I love my dog, but my dog only loves me in so far as I can provide it food and shelter. That's instinct

religion requires the ability to abstract

There is a fat at the end of the river which the salmon cannot exlain, only that he knows he must go there

yeah thats instinct

you may not understand chuch but you know you should show up on sundays?

*god

Religion would be if the salmon actually had an inner monologue where it said that the end of the river is the path to righteousness

there is no evidence one way or the other

well we cant study thought

or consciousness