When he's good he's ok....

ya know food

when an excess of food became avalible (farming) the oppertunity to persue other goals became present

religion is a product of conecpts that cannot yet be ........rationalized..........explained.......understoood........sharable.......

there were sun gods when we could not understand WHY the sun rose

religion formed......what does that mean?

ok, so define religion?

a group of ppl believing in a diety?

"the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods."

the bird knows when it rains, the worms will rise to the surface for easy feeding.........do the birds have a rain god.......is that a religion?

I disagree, the bids belivie, that when it rains, there will be worms

thats more my question

is the rain " superhuman controlling power"

I think the bides belive it is

*birds

well 'religion' in the more modern sense..........are man made instutions

^^

i think very strong beliefs of u-understood knowledge is basically religion, which predates humans.......to answer your question....

*un-

un-understood

not understood

The bids know nothing of precipitation, evaporation, boiling tempature......

*birds

only that rain = worms

do the birds not pray for rain?

i suspect they perfom 'rituals' so that they find the lands in which there is rain....

fair enough eric.......but look at any animal........what they thrive for (an ideal) & the repeating (sorry should be better word).....actions they do....

butterflies go to S. America........is it instinct, or religion?

why?

whats the difference?

There is a fat at the end of the river which the salmon cannot exlain, only that he knows he must go there

you may not understand chuch but you know you should show up on sundays?

*god

there is no evidence one way or the other

I think religion is that compelling...

biological.....concesious............its the same thing

*instict

I belive its ingrained in humans because the birds believe in the rain god....

i dont know it

again

rain = worms = food

lol

sorry, trying to flesh this out for myself

...thanks for being cool through the process >.<

Im going to say the bird's parents were taught how to follow rains....

& due to a lack of a language to properly literate the conecpt, it isconcived as a religious rule.........not so much we do this because there are worms, but because we do this because my ancestors did it.....

it is through the flock

ofc not the same way we pass down

ya, i see religion in that

they are performing rituals they dont understand for a greater good

eric your starting to get it

the greatest good = religion

i did

religion = prrof of concept?

pna get it!

so what do you think, am i crazy.???

anyways, great convo guys, thanks for entertaining me 😃

JPB?

Heirichys are present in lobsters?

heirarchies require a belief.....something is better than something else.....

'splain

Eric - you contradicted yourself......you need to believe one thing is better than the other.....

ahhh but the female wolf has to choose who to mate with

there is a belif there

is it the silkiest coat.........the biggst? the stealthiest.........but thats what makes us different.....the values we choose

foxes choose looks over pack benifits, husky's choose thick coats......

hyenas choose jaw strenghth over running!

boom

there is a reason hyenas have 10x the jaw strenght, but run slower than most dog species

because momma hyena didnt run & grandpa neither,,,,,,

exactly & those are religion

are you famuilar w/ malaria?

mal = bad, aria = air

bad air

we still diagnose ppl w/ 'bad air'

because when malria came into common knowedge, that was the best way to describe it

its not bad air

its bacteria/virus within the moist air cauing illness

is it not a religios belif that if you muck through the swamp you will fall victim the the bad air?

same idea....

religion is an action you perform without fully understanding why

there are devils in the swamp?

*demons?

I disagree, the bird has the same thought.......the demons have poisioned the lake....

bids think because choice

eric....fair enough, just expressing opins here, & not hard fafts

*why my keyboard getting smaller >.<

fair enough

im looking for input more than proving myself right

....just cracked #4

New Belgium trple

honestly you guys have beenb great

all discussion, no hate

ya...wai....wha

im nt a commie.....if that makes me conservtive

meh, not a shoe fan

shappy, ruby, pooly, Jordainy

candid is a company?

TJ vs Tommy was epic >.<

ya know nothing like bananna clips to spuce up a vid >.<