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2017-12-04 02:10:01 UTC

Thanks fam

2017-12-04 02:20:00 UTC

@Nick-NJ congratulations, brother

2017-12-04 19:22:35 UTC

I'm the typical good goy who fell for the college meme and ended up working retail. In an AR podcast one of the guests was extolling the virtues of the trades, specifically electrician work. I'm hoping it is what I need to pull myself out of paycheck-to-paycheck living. Can anyone help point me in the right direction on how to get started as an electrician?

2017-12-04 19:33:58 UTC

Look up your local IBEW. @wolfwood

2017-12-04 19:34:36 UTC

Electricians union

2017-12-04 19:35:49 UTC

Or find some guy willing to take you under his wing. I don't apply for jobs anymore, if I need something new I go to active job sites and ask around.

2017-12-04 19:38:48 UTC

Do the unions set up apprenticeships?

2017-12-04 19:43:19 UTC

Yes they can. IBEW will have everything you need, I believe they do the classes too.

2017-12-04 19:44:56 UTC

You'll work a few days then have class time a few days. @Deleted User can tell you all about it

2017-12-04 19:46:27 UTC

I'm still in the process of getting started/accepted, but yeah. I was told class every Wednesday and the first (?) Saturday of every month.

2017-12-04 19:46:49 UTC

Other than that, you're working 40 hour weeks and most likely overtime!

2017-12-04 19:47:58 UTC

I think they start you off at $14 an hour and you get a 25% raise every year, as an apprentice. Might depend on the company that you get set up with.

2017-12-04 19:48:33 UTC

@Deleted User thanks for the information bro. Good luck on your journey.

2017-12-04 19:48:44 UTC

@wolfwood you too

2017-12-04 19:48:58 UTC

Local 369 in Louisville they have a five-year apprenticeship program. You will work steady for 5 years with no layoffs and less work is super slow and at the end of your 5th Year you will turn out as a journeyman and go sign the book. These guys usually work through the day and we'll go to school one or two evenings a week

2017-12-04 19:49:49 UTC

@Deleted User is that separate from IBEW?

2017-12-04 19:50:10 UTC

Naw.

2017-12-04 19:50:51 UTC

No it is IBEW Local 369. The local chapter here in Louisville. I was in for a while although I did my apprenticeship through the independent contractors here in town. But the union does have a five-year apprenticeship program

2017-12-04 19:51:34 UTC

Word, I didn't go through the union. Self made man. Haha

2017-12-04 19:52:18 UTC

I've always worked for guys 20-30 years older

2017-12-04 20:47:03 UTC

@wolfwood What state?

2017-12-04 21:07:53 UTC

CA but hoping to move to MT

2017-12-04 21:10:21 UTC

Does MT have a big union culture? If not might not be worth it

2017-12-04 21:12:20 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/387350434387329034/Capture.PNG

2017-12-04 21:12:51 UTC

Florida has a union too, but no one's in it

2017-12-04 21:22:45 UTC

First I need to decide which one to contact πŸ‘€

2017-12-04 22:12:34 UTC

If you're moving, go to a company and ask the guys there is they're in or not

2017-12-05 01:58:54 UTC

Go apply for a job. If they're union they won't hire you and may bring up apprenticeship program

2017-12-05 01:59:13 UTC

^^^

2017-12-06 22:44:21 UTC

I'm working on doing a little remodel work for a gentleman getting ready to sell off old house. He's doing a little bit of cosmetic work in the bathrooms. Here are a few pictures showing removal of the old wax ring boating the toilet down and putting the tank back on the lower portion

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388098368099844096/20171205_103713.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388098368099844098/20171205_104907.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388098368704086018/20171205_110034.jpg

2017-12-06 22:45:05 UTC

When you put the tank on you want to make sure that the gasket is in place. This toilet took a foam rubber gasket

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388098550887874560/20171205_110114.jpg

2017-12-06 22:45:56 UTC

Once you put the bolts through the tank using the provided rubber washers you tighten it evenly so as not to crack the tank

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388098765518667776/20171205_110732.jpg

2017-12-06 22:46:09 UTC

Hook up your supply line and turn the water on and you're ready to go

2017-12-06 22:46:29 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388098902861283331/20171205_111407.jpg

2017-12-06 22:47:33 UTC

Since the house was built in the 50s the waste lines penetrate the floor in a lead elbow. They attach a brass flange to the floor and fold the lead out and over the flange. The half bath at this location had a damaged flange and had to be replaced

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388099174886801408/20171206_111813.jpg

2017-12-06 22:48:45 UTC

To replace it you take a screwdriver and pair of pliers in gently pry the lead upward away from the flange until you can remove the old flange. When properly installed the lead is soldered to the flange but you can get it squared up and screw it to the floor and then fold the lid back down. This is where the wax ring will sit for the new toilet

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388099476172177408/20171206_113009.jpg

2017-12-06 22:49:14 UTC

You'll notice that part of the lead has broken away. It becomes brittle over time. As long as there is enough lead to fold back against the inner throat of the flange you will be okay

2017-12-06 22:53:36 UTC

In the full bath I am adding a pedestal sink. Since you don't have a vanity it gives you a little bit more room in a tight bathroom. Here are the water lines with a new valves attached and the drain that i will be using

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388100696236621824/20171205_112644.jpg

2017-12-06 22:54:36 UTC

Do they still sell that lead boot?

2017-12-06 22:55:42 UTC

No. The entire elbow is lead. Where this one penetrates the floor it is about 2 foot long and plugs directly into the black Iron. Nowadays they rip that out and replace it with PVC back to the black Iron. I know a carpenter friend that when he tears those out he makes musket balls out of them for his black powder rifle

2017-12-06 22:56:12 UTC

Looks exactly like the lead boot I use for box gutters

2017-12-06 22:56:22 UTC

Haha that's funny

2017-12-06 22:56:52 UTC

But the gutter boot is like 18 inches or so

2017-12-06 22:57:10 UTC

Yes I was talking to a plumber today and Home Depot about it and he said the proper way to do it this is to Solder that ring to the lead. I did not realize you could solder lead like that

2017-12-06 23:00:06 UTC

Next you take the upper portion of the sink and put your fixtures on and installthe tailpipe for the drain

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388102330668679168/20171205_120337.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388102330668679169/20171205_120349.jpg

2017-12-06 23:00:27 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388102420665991182/20171205_121422.jpg

2017-12-06 23:01:03 UTC

This is the pop-up or some call it the tailpipe which sticks down and will connect to your drain. You'll notice the nut that's facing you which will be where the diverter handle is installed that raises and lowers the stopper

2017-12-06 23:01:35 UTC

Yeah, I didn't know either. I'll have to figure that out now.

2017-12-06 23:01:40 UTC

The Chrome ring that you see in the base of the sink prior to installing it you put a bead of plumbers caulk so as to seal the bowl

2017-12-06 23:02:05 UTC

Yeah I know brass is no big deal but I would think the lead would melt before you could get it to take

2017-12-06 23:02:53 UTC

Right. Ok I'll let you get back at it. Sorry πŸ˜†

2017-12-06 23:03:44 UTC

Np buddy. If I can't play electrician hell I'll play plumber

2017-12-06 23:04:04 UTC

Keep busy man

2017-12-06 23:04:21 UTC

Very white of you Greg

2017-12-06 23:04:37 UTC

I'm trying. It's a little hit-and-miss this time of year for me. I got a couple of jobs coming up that'll take care of Christmas

2017-12-06 23:06:51 UTC

Once the fixtures are assembled you sit the sink in place and mark the wall. This sink has two bolt holes underneath that use an expansion anchor to hold it to the wall.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388104031857278996/20171205_113554.jpg

2017-12-06 23:08:19 UTC

Once it is squared up reach underneath and mark the wall. You move the sink out of the way and drill a hole large enough for the anchor to go through. This is a bit that is made to cut glass & tile. It is diamond-tipped. Here are the anchors installed in the sink ready to pop through the wall

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388104400347856908/20171205_114500.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388104400347856910/20171205_113607.jpg

2017-12-06 23:08:54 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388104545701724182/20171205_123135.jpg

2017-12-06 23:11:12 UTC

At this point you slide the sink and pedestal back in place taking care to push the anchors through the tile into the wall. Because the bolt head is up under the sink and you cannot get a screwdriver to it I have installed a hex nut on the bolt. Once the toggle Wing expands and I screw the bolt down with my hand most of the way I can put a wrench on the hex nut and tighten the sink to the wall. Anytime you working with porcelain take care not to over tighten and to always tighten both sides evenly

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388105123601317899/20171205_124459.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388105124209360896/20171205_124515.jpg

2017-12-06 23:16:20 UTC

Next you want to install a trap kit. It is a elbow, a trap piece which is u shaped and depending on the height of the drain protruding from the wall you may need a short piece of pipe to Extend high enough to reach the tailpipe

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388106416314908682/20171205_130228.jpg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388106416314908683/20171205_130738.jpg

2017-12-06 23:17:07 UTC

This coupling piece is accordion-style for making up two pipes which may not be Plumb. In this case I had to use it because I could not dictate the height or placement of the drain pipe which was existing

2017-12-06 23:20:57 UTC

I could never be a plumber

2017-12-06 23:21:05 UTC

They deserve every cent

2017-12-06 23:21:27 UTC

Lastly you install your flexible lines from your valves to the fixture. Make sure not to over tighten these as they have a rubber insert and you will mash them and they could leak. In this picture you could also see a little more of the trap for the drain

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388107706189217798/20171205_131512.jpg

2017-12-06 23:21:53 UTC

I know it's almost as bad as being an electrician and you have to play in the shit. LOL

2017-12-06 23:22:07 UTC

Right haha

2017-12-06 23:22:14 UTC

Here's a picture of the sink and toilet installed.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388107899668267009/20171205_131521.jpg

2017-12-06 23:23:46 UTC

Nice, is that a half bath?

2017-12-06 23:24:03 UTC

In the next day or so I'm going to go over patching wall tile in a bathroom

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388108357824938004/20171205_141332.jpg

2017-12-06 23:24:24 UTC

No I'm standing in the shower. The half bath is the one with the damaged flange and I will be patching some tile in there as well

2017-12-06 23:24:54 UTC

Oh word. Nice dude. I hate plumbing.

2017-12-06 23:25:47 UTC

Me too but it pays. Gotta eat! Are you going to get on voice chat this Saturday if we can get everyone together and discuss the banners

2017-12-06 23:43:23 UTC
2017-12-06 23:44:04 UTC

Ty

2017-12-06 23:44:21 UTC

Very nice @Deleted User

2017-12-06 23:45:00 UTC

I recently took the faucet off my bathtub and filled it with hot glue.

2017-12-06 23:46:08 UTC

Lol well it'll work for a while. Was it leaking/dripping alot

2017-12-06 23:47:12 UTC

Yeah it’s oiled bronze with the plastic pull-up gate inside. I never use the faucet and wanted the pressure going to my shower head lol. So yeah. Glue.

2017-12-06 23:47:57 UTC

That works.

2017-12-07 20:24:08 UTC

Cross your fingers for me boys, I'm about to find out whether or not I get to take my Journeyman's test

2017-12-07 20:33:53 UTC

What are you trying to find out if you have enough hours

2017-12-07 20:39:23 UTC

Nah, test results from the last class of the apprenticeship program

2017-12-07 20:40:47 UTC

If I pass, I'm set to be the youngest Journeyman in the company

2017-12-07 20:42:40 UTC

I never went for my journeyman's license. When I started they weren't too worried about anyone having one . It wasn't until I became a foreman that I went to my Master's license

2017-12-07 20:49:05 UTC

Yeah, the state doesn't enforce it. It's a certificate of competency more than anything. Pretty sure you need to be a J card holder for a few years before you can sit for a Master's in Florida

2017-12-07 20:52:41 UTC

Yeah in Kentucky do you just have to have the additional hours before you can take the Masters. It's about A 5 hour test and it sucks

2017-12-07 20:57:03 UTC

They don't want just any dumbass calling themselves an electrician

2017-12-07 21:24:18 UTC

You’ll get it brother, no question.

2017-12-07 23:14:39 UTC

Got a 91

2017-12-07 23:14:51 UTC

That's straight A's all 8 semesters

2017-12-07 23:15:27 UTC

Awesome, good for you!

2017-12-07 23:15:41 UTC

Hells yes, just need to get the state cert now

2017-12-07 23:26:15 UTC

That's great!! Now ask for more money. Kek

2017-12-07 23:26:23 UTC

Jk

2017-12-07 23:27:18 UTC

Oh believe me, I will

2017-12-07 23:42:13 UTC

Congrats bro. @John O -

2017-12-07 23:47:57 UTC

@RevStench#3208 here's a picture of that elbow I was talking about

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/388476761744211978/20171207_103040.jpg

2017-12-08 01:22:17 UTC

Nice work @John O -#7072 !

2017-12-08 02:07:37 UTC
2017-12-08 02:07:43 UTC

Guys

2017-12-08 02:07:52 UTC

Was out celebrating

2017-12-08 02:37:51 UTC

@Deleted User damn that's ugly, I love the cardboard.

2017-12-14 15:06:25 UTC

Standing inside 5,000 amp switchgear

2017-12-14 15:06:36 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/390882274457157642/IMG_20171214_100006295.jpg

2017-12-14 17:34:51 UTC

thats quite a bit of juice no?

2017-12-14 22:37:14 UTC

It doesn't lend itself to good selfies, but it's like being able to stand inside the panel at your house

2017-12-15 03:13:42 UTC

I want to reroute a light switch to the other side of my door frame. How should I go about it?

2017-12-15 03:20:23 UTC

@Dalvet462 -PA Could you take a pic? Include doorframe and ceiling

2017-12-15 03:22:21 UTC

I need to go to bed. I'll get back with you tomorrow

2017-12-15 17:37:17 UTC

Yeah, I'm not at my apartment currently, but I'll send you a pic when I get the chance

2017-12-15 17:46:51 UTC

@Dalvet462 -PA you don't have an attic?

2017-12-15 17:47:03 UTC

Right above the door

2017-12-15 17:48:32 UTC

No, just a roof. I'm in an apartment complex.

2017-12-15 17:49:45 UTC

If you have no way of getting between your ceiling and the floor above you, it's going to involve cutting drywall

2017-12-15 22:20:17 UTC

And we can walk you through drywall repair.

2017-12-15 22:21:06 UTC

It's like contractors on tapπŸ˜‚

2018-01-02 22:35:54 UTC

Is anybody around? I have a mystery on my hands.

2018-01-02 22:49:19 UTC

@gregor#0091 @John O - ^^

2018-01-02 22:50:05 UTC

@JRobertson I'm driving. What's up?

2018-01-07 17:49:27 UTC

In my house at school, the Air Handler breaker switch keeps tripping. I know why a circuit trips, but don’t know the cause of it for my house. Any thoughts on what I can do to fix it?

2018-01-07 17:55:24 UTC

@Rayder how old is the breaker?

2018-01-07 22:33:27 UTC

@Rayder When was the last time you changed the filter?

2018-01-08 21:09:26 UTC

@here Today, I was accepted into the IBEW electrician apprenticeship program and they're ready for me to start work immediately. Thanks for everyone who assisted me.

2018-01-08 21:09:51 UTC

Congrats @Deleted User !

2018-01-08 21:10:19 UTC

Awesome man, congratulations

2018-01-08 21:14:06 UTC

Great job!!! @Deleted User

2018-01-08 21:45:47 UTC

@Rogue#0890 Thrilled for you brother!

2018-01-08 21:50:30 UTC

@Deleted User congrats bro!

2018-01-30 16:33:08 UTC

When's the last time you ran into one of these?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/407936281629294592/20180130_100029.jpg

2018-01-30 16:51:53 UTC

@RevStench Looks like a duplex receptacle with the face torn off

2018-01-30 16:52:14 UTC

Some dipshit spackled over live electrical components

2018-01-30 19:13:51 UTC

It's old, they ripped it back to wood lathe. And then got some Mexicans to put up drywall. So there's your dipshits haha.

2018-01-30 19:14:23 UTC

I'm not sure what it is, that's why I have you guys!(electricians)😁

2018-01-30 21:56:01 UTC

Anyone here an electrician?
I have a quick question

2018-01-30 21:58:29 UTC

I have aluminum wiring and I bought a CO/ALR Switch from Leviton which was reccomended to me from the guy at home depot. I just want to double check and make sure that I can wire it right up to it.

2018-01-30 22:08:40 UTC

@Deleted User @John O - @RevStench ☝🏻 Brass on deck.

2018-01-30 22:28:56 UTC

@Deleted User Yes, the ALR designation means aluminum

2018-01-30 22:30:22 UTC

Does it's have copper or brass contacts instead of steel?

2018-01-30 22:33:10 UTC

Are you just swapping out an outlet or are you having trouble with the outlet?

Aluminum wiring can be dangerous, it can overheat enough to start a fire without tripping the breaker.
@Deleted User

2018-01-30 22:33:34 UTC

And what John said

2018-01-30 22:34:47 UTC

Nah, aluminum is fine. All our feeder wire is aluminum in the commercial projects I do

2018-01-30 22:35:04 UTC

Plus, typically range wire in houses

2018-01-30 22:35:18 UTC

Sometimes HVAC feeds

2018-01-30 22:35:19 UTC

Yeah but if it's old, you can't assume.

2018-01-30 22:43:56 UTC

I just want to make sure he's not having a wire issue or if he's just swapping out an outlet.
I ❀ you @John O - bro, and I appreciate what you doπŸ˜ƒ

2018-01-30 22:44:22 UTC

no homo

2018-01-30 22:44:31 UTC

Haha

2018-01-30 22:44:57 UTC

Good point, though. @Deleted User why are you switching it out?

2018-01-30 23:06:11 UTC

I'm just swapping the light switch

2018-01-30 23:11:47 UTC

@Deleted User I saw that and almost had a brain aneurysm. But it's UL listed, guess it's good

2018-01-30 23:13:34 UTC

It has the gel inside it that keeps the copper from oxydizing. Looked more sturdy to me than just buying the pigtail AL/CO caps and the gel.

2018-01-30 23:14:15 UTC

I've been double and tripple checking all this stuff. I had an electrician fix the worst stuff.

2018-01-30 23:15:27 UTC

Now I just want to change out the light sockets with the usb ones. Figured I could do that myself since I have done it before. Just have never done it with aluminum.

2018-01-30 23:17:12 UTC

But with the light switch, I am good to go, right?

2018-01-30 23:17:24 UTC

Yeah

2018-01-30 23:18:05 UTC

Awesome. Thanks brother.

2018-01-30 23:18:12 UTC

Np

2018-01-30 23:24:53 UTC

@ThisIsChris’s elite force of skilled identitarians strikes again.

2018-01-30 23:29:39 UTC

I love DIY

2018-01-30 23:30:13 UTC

I almost forgot this server existed. I'll have to post some before and after pics of the rooms I am renovating when I am done.

2018-01-30 23:42:33 UTC

If you have any questions don't forget about us!
If your home was built before 1978 be mindful of lead paint/dust.

2018-01-31 00:05:25 UTC

silica dust is yummy

2018-01-31 00:28:22 UTC

They don't make you guys use the HEPA vacuums?

2018-01-31 00:39:44 UTC

We use one, I work primarily in residential. We have to set up little containment barriers. And I have to keep up with OSHA lead saftey classes. That's every 5 years, plus all those other OSHA saftey classes(fall prevention, ladder, scaffolding safety, lock out/tag out for the occasion I'm in an industrial building ect...) Then for KY I have to take lead abatement classes, pretty much the same stuff as OSHA. It's a lot.

2018-01-31 00:41:47 UTC

That's bullshit

2018-01-31 00:42:44 UTC

We have attachments that suck the silica out of the hole while you drill. Pretty easy, and better than dying before you're 55

2018-01-31 00:44:12 UTC

My carbide scraper has a vacuum attachment. I wear a respirator almost all day.

2018-01-31 00:45:16 UTC

I wish they would buy us fucking respirators

2018-01-31 00:46:36 UTC

I'm surprised they don't have them for you.

2018-01-31 00:47:43 UTC

No, you have to get cleared by a doctor, and my company is huge, so they say no across the board

2018-01-31 00:48:36 UTC

Wow, here they make PPE available to everyone. Cover their ass kind of thing.

2018-01-31 00:49:32 UTC

Are you talking respirators or dust masks?

2018-01-31 00:51:23 UTC

I use a respirator. I create lead vapor. But on big job sites if your messing with vapors they make respirators available. Dust masks as well.

2018-01-31 00:52:00 UTC

Damn dood

2018-01-31 00:52:08 UTC

I wish I had that

2018-01-31 00:53:27 UTC

It's all these laws they passed on top of OSHA bullshit. It's to much sometimes.

2018-01-31 02:01:29 UTC

I've been using a spiked pipe to make holes in the fireproofing/insulation/silica yummy along the ceiling, in order to lay pipe, etc.

2018-01-31 02:01:33 UTC

Very fun

2018-01-31 02:02:24 UTC

I'm on a big job site, there are respirators available to those working with saws, drills, etc.

2018-01-31 02:06:39 UTC

Ask for some kind of breathing protection

2018-01-31 02:07:55 UTC

It's not silica. If it's a renovation, it could be asbestos, if it's not, it's some other shit that gives you cancer that they just haven't blown the whistle on yet

2018-01-31 03:28:02 UTC

It's silica I'm pretty sure. New construction of an Airport terminal

2018-01-31 11:00:45 UTC

Then you better get a breathing apparatus @Deleted User

2018-01-31 19:23:04 UTC

The home has no lead paint and was checked out by inspectors. Unfortunately it does have the aluminum.

2018-01-31 19:23:54 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/408341641670295562/image.jpg

2018-01-31 19:24:42 UTC

There is only a positive and negative for the light switch. No third wire for the green screw. Is that an issue? The old light switch I removed didn’t have a green screw.

2018-01-31 19:27:30 UTC

Again, this is a CO/ALR light switch with aluminum wiring

2018-01-31 20:27:54 UTC

Is it a metal box? @Deleted User

2018-01-31 20:28:39 UTC

It's not a positive and negative, think of a switch like a handle on a faucet. It cuts the flow if water on or off.

2018-01-31 20:29:21 UTC

Is there a metal pipe feeding the box?

2018-01-31 21:50:26 UTC

@Deleted User Not even the founder of America’s strongest identitarian movement is immune to the travails of home ownership!

2018-01-31 21:53:00 UTC

@John O -#7072 basically it’s more of an β€œin wire” and β€œout wire,” right? I know that’s not the correct terminology but the juice just flows through the wire, stops at the switch if it’s in off, and continues on if the switch is in on right?

2018-01-31 21:53:20 UTC

Basically like a valve.

2018-01-31 22:24:13 UTC

Yeah. I didn't want to get too pedantic, but technically it's not positive and negative, it's grounded and ungrounded. The switch breaks the ungrounded wire, making it so there is no path from the electric company to your light

2018-02-01 01:31:01 UTC

No, the box is plastic

2018-02-01 01:37:57 UTC

I saw there were ground wires when I zoomed in. Take a pic of the inside of the box, please

2018-02-01 03:16:50 UTC

Ok, will do.

2018-02-01 03:18:07 UTC

I know that there is a third wire in all the outlet boxes in that room

2018-02-01 21:10:21 UTC

How do I tell what size gage the old wires are. They look like two different sizes. I would guess 10 and 12 guage

2018-02-01 21:10:36 UTC

But I want to know for sure before I get the wire.

2018-02-01 21:17:35 UTC

It should say on the insulation. That sounds like a good guess. What size is the breaker?

2018-02-01 23:31:29 UTC

@Deleted User Older wires tend to be a little bigger. It should typically be 14 or 12 gauge for a residential lighting circuit. And for your positive/ negative question. A switch doesn’t need a neutral, it just makes are breaks the current path. Only things that burn electricity (have wattage) needs a neutral. One wire will be always hot and the other will be your switch leg which sends power back to your lights.

2018-02-01 23:33:19 UTC

The only type of switch that needs a neutral are some occupancy sensors or a switch/outlet combo

2018-02-01 23:33:55 UTC

Wait, your branch circuits are aluminum?

2018-02-01 23:36:17 UTC

Be very careful not to splice aluminum and copper together. They heat up and expand at different rates and the reason you seen goop on one of the terminals was to prevent the aluminum from oxidizing. You put something called nolox on aluminum when using it for electrical circuits.

2018-02-01 23:39:12 UTC

They do sell special purple wire nuts to make copper to aluminum splices but I’ve even seen them burn off.

2018-02-02 00:31:17 UTC

Yeah, I had some electricians come over and fix the stuff where the previous owner screwed up and tied that stuff in together.

2018-02-02 00:32:28 UTC

I got the AlumiConn ALuminum to copper logs. They look way better than the pigtail tops and they have the anti-oxident gel inside for the copper

2018-02-02 00:33:08 UTC

@Hessian Also, thanks for answering my questions.

2018-02-05 20:03:24 UTC

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2018-02-05 20:04:38 UTC
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Sorry guys, just getting back to this. So this is a one-way aluminum light switch. I realized it did have aNeutral wire in the box. Do I need to hook it up? If so, how should I do it? Should I find a larger account and connect a third aluminum wire to the pigtail and then to the green screw?

2018-02-05 20:22:22 UTC

@Deleted User yes, connect a third aluminum wire with the ones that don't have insulation and connect it to the ground. Don't touch the neutral

2018-02-05 21:47:40 UTC

The power is off and I have checked the wires for electricity.

2018-02-05 21:47:46 UTC

Thanks

2018-02-05 21:51:42 UTC

One more question, if the wires in the outlets are 10 gage and I accidentally got 12 gage, will the slightly smaller wire effect the functionality of the power outlet?

2018-02-05 21:54:27 UTC
2018-02-05 22:11:37 UTC

It's a ground. It's not normally current carrying. You really shouldn't, but you could probably get away with it

2018-02-05 22:11:45 UTC

I wouldn't feel good about doing it

2018-02-05 23:13:16 UTC

@Deleted User are you sure that's#10? Looks like 12

2018-02-05 23:37:37 UTC

@Deleted User get a pair of wire cutters and slip the wire into the smallest hole that doesn't cut the wire. Then you'll know for sure what gauge it is.

2018-02-05 23:50:23 UTC

If you already bought the #10, just use that. Bigger wire is always better than smaller

2018-02-06 00:10:29 UTC

Do wires expand overtime?

2018-02-06 00:37:58 UTC

Yeah, if they're normally current carrying

2018-02-06 00:38:00 UTC

It expands and contracts. So over time the connections can come loose.

2018-02-06 00:38:08 UTC

^^^^^

2018-02-12 05:59:16 UTC

Thanks guys. Got it all figured out.

2018-02-12 11:19:05 UTC

Good to hear

2018-03-12 18:45:01 UTC

@John O - if you need a good laugh https://youtu.be/-WiN0vf4G9s

2018-03-12 18:46:19 UTC

He's really crude but funny, "The Builder" on the same album is so funny.

2018-03-12 19:02:33 UTC

Kek, nice

2018-03-13 14:03:35 UTC

Yes the by product of electricity is amps, the by product of amps is heat. As a circuit is used it heats up (expansion) and when its not used it contracts. This is also a reason derating factors are used for counduit exposed to the sun

2018-03-13 14:04:18 UTC

Thus is the main reason copper is used over aluminum these days

2018-03-13 14:04:25 UTC

Aluminum is trash

2018-03-13 14:25:55 UTC

All of our services are aluminum. We usually use aluminum for anything over 100A because of cost

2018-03-14 03:50:54 UTC

Oh my

>quantity

>quality

>choose one

2018-03-14 04:40:19 UTC

Bruh, I don't run the company

2018-03-14 19:29:44 UTC

I would say that the majority of electrical fires ive been to has had aluminum wires and zynscos

2018-03-14 19:46:15 UTC

As long as you use pertrox or something, and torque everything down, it works good. I've been on a lot of huge, high profile commercial installations that use aluminum.

2018-03-15 01:15:18 UTC

I would definitely advise scheduled harmonic checks. The aluminum conductors have a history of shifting

2018-03-15 01:16:00 UTC

But i know most other contractors live by the it only has to last one year and my assets are safe rule

2018-03-15 01:17:18 UTC

You would be amazed how often i find service conductors loose or the dreaded arcing from a loose neutral

2018-03-15 01:45:17 UTC

My company included

2018-05-03 18:44:28 UTC

@John O - check this dude

2018-05-03 18:44:34 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/441671426718564374/20180503_130817.jpg

2018-05-03 18:44:44 UTC

Thought it was an old phone box

2018-05-03 18:44:53 UTC

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2018-05-03 18:45:00 UTC

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