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2017-07-25 22:14:14 UTC

Yes the wire needs to be at least 14 gauge before you can change the breaker safely. Once you have the 15 amp breaker in place as I said before simply count up the total wattage on your bulbs and / 120 and that will give you the amperage. on a 15 amp breaker you want to keep the amperage at 12 amps for your 80% rule

2017-07-25 22:16:01 UTC

And 10 bulbs would give you about eight and a half amps so yes you would be fine on that

2017-07-25 22:16:34 UTC

I'm pretty sure the wire is 12 gauge (not at the house rn), so I should be good

2017-07-25 22:16:48 UTC

One more question - the basement's unfinished, so the joists are bare; is it code to drill holes thru each joist to run the line thru? I see a mix of that and stapling the wire to the underside of the joists. It would mean me drilling more holes, not enough space in the existing holes

2017-07-25 22:17:20 UTC

If wire is number 12 you can put a 20 amp breaker in safely again keep it at the 80% rule which is 16 amps maximum load

2017-07-25 22:17:59 UTC

(If you haven't picked up on it, I'm a complete novice; just bought my first house in April)

2017-07-25 22:18:27 UTC

Gotcha

2017-07-25 22:18:37 UTC

I'll go with 20 amps then

2017-07-25 22:18:44 UTC

Code now tells us not to strap to the bottom of the floor joist. I guess that's in anticipation of finishing out an area further down the road. So if it were being inspected yes you would need to drill through the joist. The way you decide to do it is up to you it is an existing home with a mixture of both styles of wiring so it's kind of at a decision call on your part

2017-07-25 22:19:32 UTC

Not sure that I'll end up finishing, but if its code it's worth the extra time to go ahead and do it

2017-07-25 22:19:39 UTC

No problem that's what we're here for. You'll find a lot of this stuff is just common sense. You just need to exercise safety anytime you get into a live panel. If you're unsure of what you're doing you can always shut the main breaker off and use a flashlight or a headlight of some type to perform the work

2017-07-25 22:20:45 UTC

^i did that twice already replacing all the outlets; I have a pretty healthy fear of getting zapped

2017-07-25 22:21:06 UTC

Thanks again for your input, it's much appreciated ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿป

2017-07-25 22:21:54 UTC

Yes I can be difficult because you have to kind of visualize how the circuit works a lot of times in order to work and safely. Anytime someone with limited experiences working on something they should be energized the circuit

2017-07-25 22:22:27 UTC

* de-energize

2017-07-26 01:11:51 UTC

I concur with greg 100%

2017-07-26 01:12:40 UTC

@Izat - VA keep an eye out for broken tabs on outlets. They may be switched

2017-07-26 01:23:43 UTC

As a rule of thumb on a 120v circuit a 100w is around 1a

2017-07-26 01:25:10 UTC

And dimmer switches can only handle usually around 600w. So if you plan on dimming that area you may need to divide the load across two dimming switches

2017-07-26 03:11:34 UTC

Good to know, luckily no dimmers here but I may do some on the main level eventually

2017-07-26 21:34:07 UTC

Anyone ever make an alternator?

2017-07-26 21:34:51 UTC

That is, convert physical energy into electrical?

2017-07-26 21:48:22 UTC

It is not the easiest thing to do. You basically have a motor that is working backwards. You have to have quite a bit of copper windings inside the frame and you would have to spein it very quickly. If you had it attached to a bicycle or other of means it would not be so bad

2017-07-26 21:48:55 UTC

Electric lady would not be that difficult to build the difficult part is when you have to do the spinning!

2017-07-26 21:49:20 UTC

*electrically

2017-07-26 22:02:20 UTC

Seen them on sail boats. Was also thinking sewing table pedal.

2017-07-26 22:10:39 UTC

Yes you have to get the ratios in the windings right and then have a set RPM to keep the voltage at a set level. I'm sure there are simple units I'm talking more along the lines of a consistent voltage output of 110v or higher

2017-07-26 22:11:52 UTC

Any way to do it without copper? Practically I mean.

2017-07-26 22:15:34 UTC

The two components of a motor or generator do not actually touch. It works off what is called induction. Copper or gold would give the best results. Some type of metal has to be used other metals do not work as well

2017-07-26 22:18:58 UTC

Yeah is it basically a spinning core inside of coils?

2017-07-26 22:27:37 UTC

Rotor and stator

2017-07-26 22:30:12 UTC

Yes sir and giving what you're trying to do using steel or something of that nature just wouldn't work for the induction

2017-07-26 22:30:18 UTC

Keep in mind when building this that it will always take more energy to make energy than the energy produced. Heat and friction are energy losses

2017-07-26 22:30:37 UTC

^^^

2017-07-26 22:31:18 UTC

This is the equation that prevents perpetual motion

2017-07-26 23:10:27 UTC

Ugh im at a negro house giving an estimate

2017-07-26 23:10:55 UTC

Literally a chimp out on tv..... and the smell....

2017-07-26 23:11:17 UTC

slave art?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/339907561593503744/20170726_160716.jpg

2017-07-27 00:04:58 UTC

Hahaha

2017-07-31 13:36:07 UTC

@Lebens What is a "R&R commercial 225A single phase panel?"

2017-07-31 17:16:04 UTC

Remove and replace a 225A single phase panel

2017-07-31 17:38:44 UTC

Ah ty

2017-08-01 02:07:28 UTC

@Lebens so you basically disconnected all the wires from the old panel, tracked them, and required them to the new panel?

2017-08-01 02:08:00 UTC

How long does that take?

2017-08-01 02:08:38 UTC

Im on my 10th hour

2017-08-01 02:08:53 UTC

Still not done

2017-08-01 02:09:04 UTC

Tomorrow i have another one to do

2017-08-01 02:09:08 UTC

Holy feck

2017-08-01 02:09:22 UTC

Wednesday im installing a lighting control system

2017-08-01 02:09:49 UTC

2.5 days work and ill clear $6k

2017-08-01 02:10:09 UTC

Contractor life

2017-08-01 02:11:02 UTC

That's awesome.

2017-08-01 02:22:48 UTC

@Lebens that panel/meter combo in that last picture is the second one of those I've seen you post. It's similar to what I would call a meter bank for a multi dwelling bldg. Is that something that is common for your area. Is that what the utility requires? I'm in Louisville and all of the services that we install have a meter Base outside and then a panel beneath it or just inside the wall from it. I was just wondering if that is something that you personally prefer or is that something that is common to your neck of the woods

2017-08-01 02:36:42 UTC

@Deleted User east coast vs west coast. Out here we use all in one enclosures, i hate it. You guys have the better version

2017-08-01 02:39:29 UTC

@Deleted User this building wanted a way to work on the panel without shutting down the substation also. With the meter socket they can monitor usage and have a means of disconnect for swapping main breaker

2017-08-07 18:38:14 UTC

I was getting ready to run an outlet off this existing outlet. First tree ground wasn't connected and three was a jumper you can see in the pic. It's this normal practice. I've never seen it before.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/344187498165043201/20170807_133608.jpg

2017-08-07 18:43:20 UTC

It looks like the wiring was a two wire system. For a while they decided that grounds were necessary and did not pull a ground conductor. The neutral wire which is the white wire is at Ground potential in the panel so basically it is grounded just like a ground wire would be so they are putting a jumper between the neutral screw and the ground screw so as to ground the outlet. This is not cold legal. The proper fix would be to go buy a two wire Outlet which is an outlet that has the two vertical slots but no round ground hole and put that back in. People change and put 3 wire outlets on so they can plug things like plug strips and other devices with ground prongs but it is neither safe nor legal. If there is a green or bare ground conductor in the box then you can use that to bond to the green screw and use a 3 prong outlet otherwise it should go back to the old to wire original scenario

2017-08-07 18:43:43 UTC

* unnecessary

2017-08-07 18:45:52 UTC

I see this all the time and it is a scenario that will work and provide both a neutral and a ground but like I said as per your electrical code there should be a wire for the hot a wire for the neutral and a wire for the ground.

2017-08-07 21:03:30 UTC
2017-08-08 08:07:08 UTC

Agreed

2017-08-08 08:08:16 UTC

The jumping of neutral to ground is to trick an inspectors plug tester. This is a hack job "electricians" work

2017-08-08 08:09:12 UTC

The ground isnt even wrapped the right direction

2017-08-08 19:31:48 UTC

It's weird because there were 2 ground wires in the box they just weren't connected. Which makes me worry there is a bad ground.

2017-08-08 19:38:21 UTC

I'm going to buy a cheap circuit tester and do some investigating.

2017-08-08 19:53:59 UTC

Well all the grounds are good on that circuit. Unless anyone can think of something I should check, I guess I'm going to hook it back up.

2017-08-08 20:13:25 UTC

Do a resistance check from neutral to ground. The grounds and neutrals typically are bonded at the panel. Sometimes you will find floating neutrals which means its isolated. However the xo bond coming from the secondary side of transformers creates ground aka your zero reference point

2017-08-08 20:53:11 UTC

Yes go ahead and make it all up include your new wire that you were going to run twist all your light colors clockwise under a wired nut with the short jumper wire to your individual device and It will give you best results

2017-08-09 00:38:59 UTC

Here is a splice with 3 nm cables and the jumper wires to the outlet. Twist wires clockwise as this is how the wirenuts tighten

2017-08-09 00:39:16 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/344640744490926080/20170808_203504.jpg

2017-08-09 02:25:42 UTC

So after testing all the outlets on that circuit ( and the rest of the house which is ok), the receptacles on that breaker all have an open ground. Looks like I get to spend some quality time in my attic tomorrow.

2017-08-09 02:27:01 UTC

@Lebens I'll give this a try tomorrow too

2017-08-09 03:27:40 UTC

@Placidseven - MO run a new feed

2017-08-09 03:34:58 UTC

@Lebens i most likely will. I already have the dry wall cut away from running stereo wire and cat5.

2017-08-09 03:54:33 UTC

@Placidseven - MO and rebuild the ckt like greg sharded a pic of

2017-08-09 03:56:22 UTC

Yeah I'm using that on all my receptacles for now on. Very clean.

2017-08-09 04:00:29 UTC

This method also changes the ckt to parallel. In parallel ckts the device can fail and usually will not disable the whole ckt as it will in series

2017-08-09 04:01:10 UTC

Very cool

2017-08-09 15:43:58 UTC

Just wanted to give a thanks to @Lebens and @Deleted User. I got my issue resolved. It was a ground that had been painted over.

2017-08-09 15:45:11 UTC

Crazy stuff. Glad to help. Hope to see u in cville!

2017-08-09 17:03:52 UTC

Anytime

2017-08-09 17:27:10 UTC

@Lebens u going to cville

2017-08-09 17:40:29 UTC

No sir. During the summer i work non stop. Feast or famon and ive got plenty of mouths to feed brother

2017-08-09 17:40:46 UTC

Installing a furnace today

2017-08-09 17:42:18 UTC

out with the old

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/344898196545470474/20170809_104059.jpg

2017-08-09 17:42:31 UTC

in with the new

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/344898251650105345/20170809_104110.jpg

2017-08-09 18:06:43 UTC

I know its not electrical but my skills are diverse..... and diversity is our strength goys

2017-08-09 18:24:00 UTC

๐Ÿ‘Œ

2017-08-09 21:06:54 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/344949686311845890/20170809_140614.jpg

2017-08-09 22:04:10 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/344964097647050752/20170809_150325.jpg

2017-08-11 19:36:15 UTC

Any of you guys know what this is. It was wired up to a light receptacle in my basement.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/322712495108128779/345651652159733780/JPEG_20170811_143516.jpg

2017-08-11 20:25:40 UTC

Low voltage step down transformer

2017-08-11 20:40:44 UTC

@Placidseven - MO are you remodeling your home?

2017-08-11 22:34:00 UTC

@RevStench more like fixing a poorly remodeled home

2017-08-12 02:33:17 UTC

Oh haha Well I guess you know some things are done right now.

2017-08-13 21:59:10 UTC

For the doorbell @Placidseven - MO

2017-08-15 01:41:54 UTC

@Lebens finishing up HVAC school in Feb (18 months). U have any general advice for me? Any areas of the trade i should stay away from, go toward? Im getting straight As but there is just so much to know, areas to go, I feel disoriented. Any advice id greatly appreciate it

2017-08-15 01:56:01 UTC

@REVNAT/PA bro general advice from another tradesman, I went to trade school for machine tool and now I'm a carpenter, and I specialize in historic preservation. Try everything in your field, and find what you enjoy then find the guys who will pay you the most haha

2017-08-15 02:05:02 UTC

I recommend targeting residential service companies

2017-08-15 02:05:29 UTC

Start as an installer. Move up to tech.

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