If Trump does something *really* good for the white working class, he has 2020 easily

What do we think about Washington and Oregon?

I don't have a lot of faith in him, though

depends what you mean by that

Are they flippable?

The whole state? No. Congressional districts? Yes

Or are those whites cucked into oblivion?

Yes

I mean in the long term, like 50 years into the future, yes, maybe Washington is flippable

Why?

Yeah. NW Ethnostaters REALLY put their cart before the horse.

More than Ethnostaters in general

What if we focused on the entire area surrounding Seattle?

Because there's nothing inherently "wrong" with the white people here. They're still normal people. It's just that leftism is so ingrained into the institutions that you're not going to get rid of it that quickly. @Hakujin - CA

True. Jay Inslee is a scumbag too.

The quickest way I could see Washington flipping would be through birthrates. If Eastern Washington manages to outbreed Western Washington, then it could flip.

The Washington State legislature was actually red until very recently

Is it more California poison?

Yes, I imagine that's a large part of it

I'm sure Amazon brings in a lot of the wrong crowd

Microsoft is also based here

I deeply apologize.

Washington is also rapidly... uh... yellowing

Even though I bear no personal responsibility.

@Jacob Chinese?

Chinese, Japanese

all different kinds

oh and Indians, but those are brown

How I yearn for China's demographic collapse. It can't come soon enough.

Peasants

I don't know if there's any specific policy that could flip Washington

The Rust Belt flipped due to policy, since the white working class aren't really idealogues

They never voted blue because of their culture, they just voted blue because the economic policies benefitted them

Washington is different because leftism is pretty engrained in the culture around Seattle

These people would still vote blue even if it's outright against their interests @Hakujin - CA

About 30% of whites are shitlibs. As the Dems become more and more anti white, I think we might see that number drop as low as 15%

It's difficult because it's like a religion

Very much so

Will this have to be the future republican map?

It's kind of sad for me because a lot of my friends are children of European immigrants, and instead of identifying with their European side, they identify with their immigrant side

It’s how I describe it to normie friends who rag on Christianity

30% of white men voted for a black shitlib in Florida

Oh fam, if you only knew how much dogmatic nonsense you believed yourself

Here's the Washington 2016 map. East is pretty strongly red.

@⚡Clark⚡ What say you about this recount?

I kinda miss Spokane

Was comfy

@Hakujin - CA Leftist bullshit from a corrupt county

>recount in Broward County
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@Hakujin - CA MN is a BIG if. They are blacking it faster than Trump is waking it

@Hakujin - CA Maybe Trump could flip Washington if he finds a way to benefit the economy in Eastern Washington. There's absolutely zero chance King County is going to flip any time soon, but maybe a viable strategy could make the red counties *more* red. I could also see Whitman County, the light blue one in the East flipping.

A story in 2 parts

ya Spokane is pretty nice

it's so dumb when Seattle people call Spokane trashy

because Seattle has exactly the same problems Spokane does, but 10 times worse

How does Brenda Snipes still have her job? She needs to be indicted.

@ophiuchus Isn't it scary seeing the dogma come out in people who you otherwise respect? It's like they're being possesed. I recently had a friend argue "but isn't America based on immigrants?".

Oh, I'm supposed to let my children get raped South Africa style because America is based on immigrants?

America was built on conquest. We are standing against a different conquest

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Furthermore the people of Minnesota just elected Tim Walz for governor.

Guest on Hannity just now:
"The conduct of Brenda Snipes is beginning to stink like a bucket of fish in the sun"

Haha. So true.

@Hakujin - CA Oregon might be more flippable. Looks like it's just Portland holding it back.

@Jacob The governor election was surprisingly close in Oregon.

These maps show that cities should be [impossible bad optics wignat idea]

You have to remember that the state Republican parties in blue states are a lot more moderate than the national Republican party, though

Washington also elects Republicans on the state level

I don't know if me moving to such a deep red state like Idaho is such a good idea. How about a swing state like New Hampshire?

I just pulled that out of thin air. Literally any swing state that isn't ridden with problems.

I mean it depends what you're trying to do

Idaho sounds nice, but, if your goal is to influence elections, a swing state would be best

Washington voted 52 for Clinton to 36 for Trump

It's gonna take quite a bit to flip

My goal would be to influence elections. As long as I can find a job there. I'm still in college.

Your individual presence will make no difference in elections

1,742,718 votes for Clinton to 1,221,747 votes for Trump

@Ald not with that attitude

Relying on your presence alone is low energy

I mean nothing is decided by one vote

Is Illinois just blue because of Cook county?

Gotta work for a campaign

right

@Ald Very true. But if all California conservatives moved out before their state collapses and moves to a swing state with the purpose of countering the liberal California poisoning, it could be quite effective. Countering includes not only voting, but also working for campaigns.

@Jacob yeah, it really is. It’s like watching a switch turn on in their heads and they go from conscious actor to NPC servo

Logan started canvassing for Rosendale the day we moved here

4,270,270-1,742,718-1,221,747 = 1,305,805 registered voters who simply didn't vote in 2016 in Washington. If we convinced half of registered voters in Washington who simply didn't vote to go out and vote for Trump, we would flip Washington.

Maybe what we should do is hold voter registration drives in white working class areas. @Hakujin - CA

@missliterallywho I think Montana is less red than we might think. You still have Tester, a Democrat governor, and a Liberian mayor in Helena.

Governor of Helena. Lol whut?

@Hakujin - CA yes, Tester v Rosendale was too close for comfort

I just formally introduced myself to my state GOP chair the other day. God the personal cells of the two GOP county chairs nearest me (the county I’m in has almost no hope of flipping red,) but the county that’s just south of here is the reddest in the state. That county’s chairwoman apparently busses people in to Georgia and Florida for voter registration, etc.

Excited.

Georgia needs help

@ophiuchus I'll say.

Northeastern Liberal poisoning.

The area south of Montgomery all the way to the Florida panhandle coast is really weird.

Pretty much no one lives there

Wonder what’s going on with that area

I was also easily the youngest person in that office by 30 years

Sinema winning should only galvanize us further. Not hoping she does though.

Thw expansion of the republican party lies in the white north and midwest. Pass it on.

My plan is becoming the goodest boy volunteer and trying to swing precinct officer soon

If I moved from this state it would be to New Hampshire

GHOSTS!

And I’m not particularly beholden to this state, I’m not from here anyway.

Them ghosts gonna be voting red fam

hol up

how do homeless people vote without an address?

Or a photo ID

Tbh a US passport should be required for voting

A US passport is proof of US citizenship, a driver’s license is not

Also do homeless people vote

idk but a lot of the homeless around here support Trump

Do you hold any hope for the future of New York

they're literally the only people wearing MAGA hats in public

Not meaning to black pill or anything, legitimately serious

NYC, I mean

Upstate is deep rouge

NYC was lost long ago I would think.

It has been a good day Fellow EVrVVEAVS

I’ve seen confederate flags in upstate New York

@ophiuchus there's some things about NYC that are more conservative than you'd think

Over in the finger lakes

>upstate NY
>NYC

Yeah that’s kinda what I’m asking, like what?

in terms of politics it's a mess

homeless people don't give a shit about muh immigrants

but in terms of day-to-day culture it's fairly conservative outside of select pozzed locations

I talked to a homeless black guy and he was like lol fuck them

It's swamped in ethnic enclaves, which themselves tend to be socially conservative even if all the members of most of these enclaves vote democrat

@Asatru Artist - MD I was asking him about NYC, since I know more about upstate New York. I was up there all the time visiting my grandparents before they passed away this last year

For example, we've had a lot of transplants come in from CA, and they are way more preachy about their leftist moral values than people here even there's a lot of lefties here who agree. Most NYers go to work, get their job done, and find happiness in their home life and are polite in work life.

It gets inane because my coworkers talk about movies and apple products all the time, but it's better than the outward lefties who talk about the latest twitter trends or whatever

@ThisIsChris Haha. I remember seeing a boy in a MAGA hat while in Manhattan last Christmas.

@Hakujin - CA lol at Christmas time is a pretty good time for that to blend in. plus in the areas most popular with tourists it's not so odd. I walked with some magapedes into time square with a trump sign and a lot of tourists waiting on line for stuff were chanting USA and stuff

@ThisIsChris movie people are so vain I swear

@YourFundamentalTheorum yeah movies bore me to tears but better than the coworker who didn't shut up about Trump for like 2 years.

I definitely prefer ostensible Democrat voters to be way more interested in movies than politics

^

Please, go see a movie instead of voting

Stop obsessing over Democracy. Just like late stage Rome. More and more power will be consolidated in the hands of the Executive (Emperor). Our society will likely fragment into disarray like Rome. We will not be invaded or conquered like Rome. But we will atomize.

Yeah. Besides, there is way more to life than politics.

@Sam Anderson we are being invaded though...

Got to get into normal activities that normal people like.

@ThisIsChris usually you don't talk politics at work. Not I'm California

This is why media is so leftist

The CEOs of companies publicly anounce their politics every day

@YourFundamentalTheorum really? Everyone i've met from California in the tech industry is always trying to instill leftist moral values into our work, it's cringey because a lot of us don't like the illusion that we are working for any other reason than we have to.

"In the tech industry" of course is quite the qualifier

Yeah, it's sad. The world is sad. We've dropped so low. The end is nigh

@ThisIsChris not only tech

Finance as well,but less so

The end is not nigh because things aren't nearly as bad as they could be yet.

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN Rome faced similar demographic and refugee challenges. Probably worse than our own. Given the instability of nations at the time. My point is, we will probably not see some invading hordes come and take our lands. Because the world is known and global economies depend on each other.

They don't force us to praise LGBT yet, they just don't tolerate us criticizing it. In the future they may make us praise it.

Everything would be much, much worse if the economy were in a worse state

@ThisIsChris we've lost europe, soon to lose the US

Is Russia the last stand?

Imagine BLM protests with bread lines

We haven’t lost Europe

The US is in a *much* worse demographic situation @YourFundamentalTheorum

England outside of London is still leaps and bounds better demographically than we are

@Ald maybe so, but we have based people like Trump and Steve King

The worst W Euro country is 85% compared to us at 50-60%

They don't, except for Orban and Putin

And Salvini

damn, I have such a good meme but I can't post it in the server

@ophiuchus to be fair, Birmingham (2nd largest city) is majority non white now too

I’m never in that part of England but I believe it

God save Putin, Orban, and Salvini!!

Press S for more Salvinis

S

Still, I actually took the train out of the city to Kent just to enjoy caucacity for a while. Was 10/10.

Seriously we would be so f*cked without them

Russia faces much the same problems as W Europe under Putin. Non-Europeans flood the Slavic heartlands in W Russia and from outside its federation Russia receives the most immigration in the world

@Ald it's not uncontrolled, and they are much more xenophobic there than we are

London is so fucked dude. Its like instead of colonizing the world (which failed) the Anglos and their financial masters decided to have the world colonize London.

Plus Russia is huge

Russia is like 20% Muslim, they ain't doin' great either. Let's be real here guys.

@Asatru Artist - MD Russia contains the Homeland of many muslims

Russia knows how to not give a shit about human rights tho soo.

Like Kazab

So it's not a fair comparison

From our point of view as white identitarians Russia is doing a terrible job

@Ald Russia contains Asia though

So it's not a fair comparison

I am aware of the territory encompassed by Russia thanks

What concerns us is the ethnic Russians

And the encroachment of the Asiatics into their areas

I know much less about internal Russian politics than I should

Yeah, so the 20% Muslim number is irrelevant

No it's not because they are not segregated away into their regions

Not anymore

Democrats love immigration so much we should start calling them the DEMOGRAts

@Ald ok I'll give you that, but here it's pushed hard. There it's not actually pushed

>20% Muslim
>irrelevant
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And they have ICE equivalent doing raids and shit

"Pushed" or not is irrelevant

It's happening

It's much better than here

>pushed or not is irrelevant
<:really:453005408064241674>

And Putin lets it happen under a civic banner of Orthodoxy and a neo-Russian Empire

Neo Russian empire is good

I like that

Talk shit about Russia all you want. They know how to subjugate people

It's immaterial how vocal those letting it happen are about it. It's happening

@Ald so you're saying interracial couples on TV are irrelevant to our racemixing rates?

I'm saying Putinism ain't it for the European peoples of Russia

Putin is a stepping stone

<:really:453005408064241674>

He's pretty good, but still after him we have the Russian Empire

And I'm looking forward to that

WAR

https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-cash-declares-war-why-this-could-mean-another-split/

BIT COIN CASH GOING THROUGH THE ROOF

Why would you look forward to more entanglement between Slavs and Asiatics

@Ald because that's not what's going to happen

What we want is autonomy and thriving for the whites of Russia not a big powerful Russian state in itself

@ophiuchus Did you sell all your ethereum??

Russia *became* diverse in its citizenry by way of its empire

@ThisIsChris Craig Wright in some rocky waters

Dude no offense but you have very little understanding of Russian history

I can't believe they're going to do a hard fork again, it's like BCC BTC all over again!

Shorted it and long BTC

If you don't just mean offense then explain how I'm wrong

I'm literally just stating facts

@ophiuchus nice BTC brother 😎

The Russian Empire was multiracial and multicultural

Russian empire is how we got our shit together, and created a powerful empire

That's not our motus operandi as Identitarians

Multicultural and multiracial, but not racemixing

GOTTA RIDE

THE WAVE

They coexisted but didn't mix

Boutta get dabbed on

It is categorically undesirable to have a multiracial citizenry

They started to mix with communists

Russian Empire<<<

@Ald the native White Russian were always in charge

@ThisIsChris when did you first enter

Before the first split?

@Ald ethnic Russian autonomy and separation would be a disaster in geopolitical terms

@ophiuchus Yeah, but during the split I literally only had like 100 dollars of bitcoin

The USSR was the least of Russia's multiracialism problems tbqh

Thinking of getting this to mine Ether

And then convert it for a gaming rig 😎

thoughts?