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And things get tricky
Then you have to target what they care about.
Especially if they're universalistic in their delusions, and, rather than simply applying a double standard just to White people, they actually believe that *no* people has legitimate collective interests or territorial rights.
I would assume they are already egalitarian and even cosmopolitan for sure
I s'pose you could still come in from a disparate impact angle, though, citing the fact that it's only White peoples that are *actually* impacted by these policies.
Sadly, even if you prove that, I've had more people ask why that's such a bad thing (less white people).
I've found you must target what they deeply care about. If they care about the environment/animals its as simple as asking what other race of people have put in place laws and protections for our environment?
Yeah. The insanity knows no end. An important point to remember though, is that, except in cases like the Facebook scenario above, you aren't actually trying to convince the ideologues by arguing with them, but rather, the bystanders.
@FACINEMA has some great physiological debate points as well. You plant a seed in their mind and let it grow.
@Bjorn - MD exactly right. That's important.
Plant the seeds. No one wants to be told what to believe
I really need to work on my debate game. It's definitely not one of my strong points. I feel like we should have regular workshops among our local meetups, kinda like a BASTE Toastmasters.
The literature club and I are going to try and complete a debate club this winter.
Yea and they always bring up the point "well it was their land before Europeans invaded"
But with me buying a house and getting married, it's hard to find the time.
land was bought for at least 15% of it was
at the time of settlement
@CarletonJ That'd be cool. Yeah, I was really diggin' the book club, briefly, but I ended up ducking out due to time constraints, but I may make my way back in there.
I'm pretty sure most of it was purchased though
I agree w practicing our debate skills at meetups. I get too emotionally involved in discussions on these topics, and thatโs an easy way to lose someone on the other side of the fence
@Bjorn - MD we learned a ton from our first year. We're going to focus on having smaller sized books to allow people to catch up and read easier. We found most members are just too busy to have what is essentially another homework assignment.
Cool, cool. I do envy the fact that you guys made it through CoC, though.
@Procella Eques I've been kicked off multiple Asatru Faceberg pages for mentioning South Africa...and that was over 2 years ago. I can't imagine how triggered those Wiccatru types are over anything pro-white these days...
Coc proved to be an atrocious read. It was a considerably blackpilling experience.
@Asatru Artist - MD Yeah, if you ever watch Carolyn Emerick's stuff, she'll periodically go into her hit-and-run battles with the Troth. It's kind of hard listening to her streams, lately, though, because as uncannily soothing as her voice can be, it's grating listening to her frequently spiral into anti-"Dolt Right" monologues...
The Troth are Universalist garbage...
Agreed.
It's all the more frustrating, because she never really fully fleshes out whom she's referring to by using said epithet. Sometimes, it sounds like she's going on about wignats, and I can obviously get on board there. Other times, she alludes to the excesses of the Thot Wars, and I'm willing to hear her out on that, too, but other times, I wonder if she isn't just peddling the fallacy of Pagan gender egalitarianism...
To be fair, women had a lot more rights there than many other areas up until very recently...which is why you have a "feminist government" in Sweden now. <:sad:366743316475281408>
And which is also why "feelz over realz" is destroying that country...
i.e. Just because Jarls weren't putting their wives in burlap bags, that doesn't mean that "shieldmaidens" were actually a thing... ๐
Yeah.
You leave Lagertha out of this @Bjorn - MD !
๐
Lol
Lagertha is the ultimate waifu shieldmaiden, keep your haggus loving paws off @Asatru Artist - MD
Duel at noon?
Wait...wrong time period. ๐ค
How bout a Yu gi oh duel at noon
>tfw no YuGiOh cards. <:sad:366743316475281408>
You're not white if you don't play yugioh
I have some Magic cards from like 20 years ago...does that count?
Magic is for cucks, yugioh is for chads
Crap...
My brother had hundreds of yugioh cards, some personal things happen and he's out of the house and we just got rid if them, I don't know why we didn't sell them, we'd have gotten a decent amount of money just on sheet volume
For anyone who didnt catch last night's Trump rally in Texas, here are some of the highlights. Find it on YouTube and watch from 1:15:00 on.
"I am a nationalist, start using that term"
"This state was settled by some of the toughest men"
"William Travis, James Bowie and Davy Crockett made their last stand at the Alamo"
- defeat of Mexican army after the battle of San Jacinto, 1836.
"The battle of Gonzales we stared down a foreign army and declared come and take it"
- Mexican invaders defeated 1835
"Pioneers built a home with their own two hands"
"These courageous texian Patriots did not shed their blood, sweat and tears, so we could sit at home while others try to erase their legacy. Tear down our history and destroy our proud American Heritage."
"We are America, our hearts bleed red white and blue"
- President Donald Trump, 10-22-2018, Texas.
@fgtveassassin Probably not as much as you would think. I sold off a bunch of my old yugioh cards recently and I barely got any money out of them
FeelsBad
That "our hearts bleed red white and blue" is a really good one
The whole speech was great but those last 5 minutes were straight white pills
@Why Tea agreed!!
Good morning!
77,800 people attended the Houston rally. Definitely pretty yuge, especially for one that wasn't even for him.
@Cato the Younger Morning!
i wonder how the blue checkmarks reacted to that rally
What has two thumbs and doesn't give a sh#t? This guy ๐ ๐ ๐
Did anyone see the witches gathering to put a hex on Kavanaugh and Trump???
@YourFundamentalTheorum Of course, I kid. We do so savor their kvetching... ๐
@Deleted User Unfortunately... ๐
it's witchery
as long as Trump stays with God, he should be good
rewatched the trump nationalist quote after seeing the stormer post, crowd starts chanting "build the wall" immediately after a massive cheer for nationalism. it may be implicit, but it's headed to the explicit real quick
Gotta admit, too, it does make me tingle a little bit to watch Cruz kiss the ring... ๐
Those all look exactly like what I think of when someone says "feminist" <:really:453005408064241674>
Iโm still amazed the guy is even president.
damn my nationalist buzz got totally ruined by a dot indian that j sat down next to me and is garbling along in his native tongue
@Deleted User Oh, no. This was the one that I saw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHGrNzs1tjM
This chick in the video literally screams "Hail satan!"
WHAT THAT...IS THAT THING?!
a witch apparently
We really must be in a simulation...I just don't see how that thing is real...
@Sam Southern - TN It's a multi-generational struggle, borther. Not sure if it was the same with your interview, but if it was, just think back to one of the questions that they may have asked: "When do you plan to stop your activism?" Answer: "When they put dirt on me."
...and if you do it right, it'll continue on even further in your young'uns.
Dude this witchcraft stuff is insane... these.. people.. are absolutely delusional and possessed.
They look like they are being controlled by an evil force. Like their souls are gone.
The current state of the entire left I think reflects that
lol witchcraft ain't that weird to me, idk why. they chose the left-hand path, so their actions make sense in that context
@Deleted User They are. It's called liberalism, among other things...
Lol agreed
The other day I was thinking about this.
Where do they draw the line?
Where do they finally say, โenoughโs enoughโ in the moral sense
The type of people walking this earth and doing the things they do now. And itโs just totally acceptable by leftist standards.
I mean.. it's one thing to be a Christian and use sage to cleanse your house.. but these folks literally have spell casting, cauldrons of fire, effigies of trump and kavanaugh that they set on fire, and actual satanic rituals...
@Sam Southern - TN If you're alluding to that video that Patrick did with that one dude on Red Ice a while back, I did find a lot of stuff interesting and valid with regard to the whole right-hand/left-hand dichotomy, but the whole Wicca thing's just beyond the pale for me...
@Cato the Younger where do they draw the line? They won't draw any line. They won't be happy until we are gone or dead. The left hates everyone who isn't a leftist.
lol if you've rejected christianity and have chosen to return to an older path, all the ritualistic shit they do makes sense. I haven't gone down that path, but in context it's "logical"
@Cato the Younger
>the left
>morals
I know I know
@Bjorn - MD haven't seen that specific video, did a lot of religion searching for a while and looked into the left/right hand stuff, it was really interesting honestly
But I know these people are human, as hard as it is to say. Have they any shred of their impulses left?
They have all their impulses left. That's all they use. They cant think or use logic, just emotion. Anger etc
I mean the kind of shit you see on the news feed with all these millions of different pronouns and classifications and just complete and total abandonment of natural law.
Only in this kind of society would you see this.
Where God is absent, satan reigns
We are so grossly overindulgent
That was a lot of writing.
Heres an easier way of saying this:
The left is satanic.
The right is god-loving.
Lol
That's only if you're restricting your scope to that of Christian morality. Satanism doesn't even factor into a non-Christian perspective.
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