@DairyMaxx probably won't allow it, but I wouldn't mind the US collapsing tbqh

free russian citizenship if u know what I mean

I'm not saying I would stop Latino nationalism, that really helps bolster our cause. I'm just not so eager to usher in the complete fall of the United States. You guys don't know what that really means or will look like.

we have to roll the iron dice

or hope that someone rolls it for us

if the dice ain't rollin, it's going all the way to Tel Aviv

Any loss of territory would likely cause a global conflict.

Cali is the fall of the entire country @Deleted User ?

Why?

genuine question...

if Cali falls, russia or China will put a base there

you think successful secession will stop with Cali?

sounds like some tom clancy bullshit

USA, which barely produces anything, will collapse because financial institutions won't have the security they have now

which is now a foreign, alien, easily manipulated state

basically everyone in the USA is broke and non-whites are roaming the streets in gangs

If and when the US falls apart, the entire post cold war world order goes belly up

which looks bad, but it's actually good imo

@TMatthews and tha'ts a good thing

a unipolar world with USA in control is bad

or the (((usa))) at least

It's inevitable. Whether it's good is irrelevant. Our job is to make the best of it and influence it where possible to suit our race's interests.

I think you think acceleration and decline sounds cool, but you don't get it.

I do not think that some kind of Left wing secession could happen until things polarize more. Whether or not that is in some Trumpian Third term or some extreme leftist that comes to power post Trump who is unable to countersignal due to purity spiraling.

@Deleted User my hope is that it will suck for the lemmings

and they will realize what's up

that's the gamble at least

@Sam Anderson yeah no calexit anytime in the foreseeable future

it will be on the ballot sooner or later

it wasn't on this ballot because of a court order

but the secretary of something is suing the state

@Deleted User I don't think anyone thinks it would be "good" or "fun" or anything...it'll be awful. But long term, Cali sets the left wing standard, then the other crazies on our coast follow suit slowly after.

for batting it down

If California seceded, it would buy the rest of the country much needed time. Unfortunately, I can't see them being allowed to go peacefully

any secession would start the end of Pax Americana

which is good

any instability is good

and benefits our cause

i'm not calling for creating instability

simply saying that it benefits us

Honestly, I support Texas seceding now too, before they become 40+ solid democrat electoral votes