are we allowed to tell stories from friends/family or just our own experiences?

Yes

War stories in general

No

which one lol

Yes

Amazing

gotem

So it's for stories in general

Anyways let me get started on talking about Nagarno

I was 18 when I got pressed into the military

Mandatory 2 year service since I never persued higher education

This was when the war first started

Back in 88,

And they were some of my best memories to be honest

I never cared much for Patriotism or the Military, but I did it anyways

It was my Duty to my people, not to my state

I hated the fighting, I got shot in ‘89

Bullet tore through my Calf

But it was the moments in between

Sitting around with my friends

Comrades, Battle Brothers

Whatever you wish to call them

6 years were the best days of my life

Cause of the moments outside of the fighting

I wouldn’t say I was a good soldier, but by the end of it I was a Sergeant

Tensions were and still are high

But I left my home country in 95

Ended up working for Blackwater until Ukraine

After that I signed off, and got picked up by G4S

Still working with them, for now

I almost went home when there was a clash in 2016

But it never escalated enough for me to

Anyways that’s all, I might go into more detail another time

Until then somebody else can do storytime

My father told me this story when I was recently at his house.
"I was in Kuwait 24 hours after the Iraq thought they were tough. We were walking through a bazzar on patrol and the guys thought it would be a good idea to buy some head scarfs in case we are over run we can put them on and run and click our tongues towards our lines."
Never happened though I still have it at my apartment for safe keeping

Another story is from Desert Storm
Some background first his been on a foot patrol for about 72 hours and was on the way back to base near Kuwait City.
He was driving his Humvee and pulled off the side of the road to take a nap he was just about to fall asleep when all of the sudden *Woooosh Wooosh*
MLRS about 10 of them let loose a barrage about 20 feet away he jumped out of the Humvee into a ditch his Captain walks up " Sgt. Callahan what are you doing down there?!"
I thought that was incoming sir
"NO Callahan that outgoing get your ass back in the Humvee"

Buddy and I were on the line, we randomly heard what we assumed was a jet at first. So we dove into the trench thinking that we were about to get smoked, about 30 or 45 minutes passby and we notice a drone over heard scouting us out. So we started taking a few pot shots and then a few of us climbed out and mooned the drone.

So long story short, someone has a picture of my ass.

XD

So no shit there I was surrounded by ninjas

Buddy of mine in a certain place in Minecraft. Was taking shots at the VDV then out of nowhere, one gets up out of the trench, pants tucked into his boots,wearing his beret and that gay striped shirt they're issued with a PKM. He yells "VEDAVEE" and starts ripping belts off in completely opposite direction of my buddy.

So I heard a story from my grandmothers cousin (I guess she is a grandma for me too). They had a grandmother (great-great-great grandmother for me) back in 1943. She was 105 at that time and became completely blind when she was around 90.

When there were fights over their village between russians and germans she refused to leave her house and stayed there cause she didnt believe that there was a war.

Her sons wife was taking care of her at that time but had to move with the rest ofthe family to neighbour village

Russians made a camp in the village she lived in, so germans bombed and shelled it from time to time for around 2 weeks

Sons wife would come once in two days to feed her (which was like 20 km walk one way)

She recalled that granny complained about mice being to loud on the roof, which she mistook bombings for.

She lived through those 2 weeks, even had a bomb land nearby, but it didnt detonate. She died the same year out of old age, neither war nor holodomor killed her

But yeah, she sat on a bench near the house while being bombed

Chaps has the patience of a saint

I'll tell stories from my deployment to Mexico aiding the Mexican Federales and Mexican National Guard/Marines in their Drug War a few years back tmr

Suffice to say it was a fucked up time

But I got a combat patch so

Nice, I'm sure we all look forward to it

one of my privates almost killed a federales by near beating him to death with a 249

for good reason

Well damn

Cib?

Some old lady and her grandkid were trying to get back into their house on a street we had cordoned off
and we were trying to explain to her there was a drug raid going on next door to her
and to sit tight for a bit
and one of the federales attached to us started yelling and pointing his gun at her and her very young looking grandkid
and then started beating her with his rifle stock
and pistol whipped the kid
that private had gotten fed up of all the shit
and went up and beat the living fuck out of that fucker

We had to stop him from killing the guy
but we all sort of wanted him to kill the guy
Private then went into a deep depression and became an alcoholic after all of that
and tried suiciding a few times
until he got medically chaptered out
some people get broken from seeing this stuff happen in front of them
anyone that hears stories of what happened during the worst of Iraq will tell you similar things

Juarez was fuckin insane

Those federales were run by honest to god war criminals

We also had very loose ROE there as well as to be determined on a platoon by platoon level
so our LT could basically tell us to kill someone and we'd be ok to do it but we all held back
They'd accuse random people of being cartel members with like zero proof
and then go kill or detain and rob them

I didn't really understand what a lot of guys that came back from Afg meant when they said they felt like committing murder

But after Juarez I get it

What they felt when they learnt about the ANA raping little kids

and knowing they couldn't do anything about it

@wendiko no CIB since we weren't officially in combat operations

but we got a patch since it was a danger zone

Well fuck, I knew shit was bad down there, but no one seems to talk aboutnit like that

If there's one thing I learnt from my experiences there it's that a boog in the US is a very undesirable outcome

Because that style of ultraviolence will be here too

and tons and tons of people will die and get hurt that do not in any way deserve it

and I frankly don't want any of my family and friends to have to suffer through similar situations

@thedarkness05 those retards would launch missiles and rockets in the middle of populated cities

the Federales and their National Guard

like imagine any American city like NYC or DC or LA right?

Imagine some Apache coming in launching hellfires at buildings

that's what that was like

fucking insane

I know everyone memes about the boog(except for the tard doomers who actually have nothing to live for) but I'm telling yall that you reaaaaaly don't want that in the US

because chances are, you and everyone you care about will die a horrible, horrible death

Mexicans took a page out of a book of Zarqawi in Iraq with their absolute cruelty to those who opposed them

Tying men, women, and children up by their hands and hanging them like pinatas from roofs of buildings

and then shooting them

or beating them from there

All the shit y'all seeing in Mexico popping off right now is honest to god giving me flashbacks from then

@thedarkness05 We had to stop going to mexico because of the war crimes that the people we were aiding came to light

and it was politically bad

so we just deployed to the border instead and helped out border patrol

You know, I almost went CBP. Cant imagine what it'd be lile down there now

Pretty sure the most horrific vid I can offer the <#621525551768666112> is a Cartel torture vid - shit is absolutely brutal

(and no - they're NOT who you wanna b00l with - they're who's gonna trample your ""postapolcalyptic lybtopia"")

I guarantee you that there will be a large faction of boogbois that will basically do that here

in the case of a boog

I see the absolute psychos online in various /k/ shitposting pages or w/e salivating over the opportunity

When society is thin, civility goes with it

But yeah the current shit has me thinking about what happened when I was down there

man I've made peace with a lot of things but I still have some regrets hounding me from then

nottodoxbut - what years were you out there?

2014-2015

multiple trips

we'd fly out from Ft. Bliss

shit

Mind you we had no idea when or if we'd go

or why

We weren't told anything

well yeah

We'd have tons of random "drills" where we'd get woken up at 03 and loaded into Chinooks

and flew from Benning to Bliss

and back

you're not exactly working in public light

but some of those times we didn't go back to benning

we went into Juarez from bliss

We'd stay in Mexico for like a week or two and head back

and repeat it again in the future at some point

makes ""tactical"" sense

We went to a bunch of federal law enforcement schools beforehand

and our platoons were made up of people that could understand basic spanish

I remember thinking it was very weird

that we, as infantry, had to go to riot control stuff and drug interdiction schools

and that they went around testing/asking who understood spanish(I had taken like 7 years of it in middle/high school)

yeah that'd be weird if they hadn't lead on in anyway shape or form to where you were being sent

and I'm sure they didn't.

ngl I regret not letting that private kill that Federales

but it would have been bad to let it get there

Yeah

have to maintain order

at least

then and there

the LT said we had free reign

There were others I regret not killing

and there were civilians I regret handing over to the Federales

because I knew what happened afterwards

Truth...

Fuck

I have to hit the hay - I'll catch up in 5h

ima go lift now

0530

it is time

If i wanted to go there itd be something along the lines of triple frontier.

^^

But without losing the money

You know that shit sounds so heavy right at the ass end of obama i wouldnt be suprised you felt shady about it.

@wendiko it was still cool as fuck at times though

choke slamming cartel members

clearing room to room house to house

constant raids

adrenaline rush was intense

ROE was fast and loose so we were allowed to be a little handsy

and rough with them if we wanted

which i took advantage of

Also one nice thing about Mexico is that roids are completely street legal there

and are sold EVERYWHERE

Lmaooo

so i bought a shitton of tren and dbol up

for real cheap

RAGE

and then

sold them to rangers

back at benning

for a killing

entire ranger bat is on heavy juice brah

good market

@P I L L A R M A N damn, that's a wild fucking story man, I also wished that private bashed that dude's brains in tbh

so there was this old man named Frank former Marine first guy to tell me about the gulf of (taulkin/gook speech) so franks a viet nam vet chain smoking mechanic. A fairly mild mannered old man until ya get to kno the guy then he'll tell ya about cocksuckers from all walks of life no culture is spared nothing escapes the fine tooth comb folksy wisdom from this good ole boy, be they lazy greedy liein cant trustem even if ya had a gun barrel taped to their back side cocksuckers u name it hed found a reason why it was bullshit. so Frank got dishonorably discharged back in 71 there abouts at the very tail end of his 2nd tour of duty made it through the A-shaw Valley carried clips with 2 rounds taken out to prevent jaming took turns shooting while the guy next to him reloaded real steel warrior well after Frank had spent a number of years fighting the "pajama men" an and was about to go back home and work farming for a while get drunk amd start a family then this happemed
theres reports of incomming fire and a position (about x number of clicks by compass point) being enveloped in the hailstorm of carnage that is a battle men dieing begging for back up their mother and who knos what else over the radio and Frank can hear the shots. Well Lt. Candy Ass the ball-less wonder's order are for extraction and extraction only opon hearing this Frank does "what any good man ought to do" pulls out his service pistol gently but firmly presses the muzzle into the Lt's neck from the passenger seat and informs him its time for a detour. not a god dam clue about the combat side Frank didnt like talk about that much but the Calvary arrived and sent them pajamas high tailing it back home and for this Frank was stripped of rank and sent back home with plenty of reasons to be glad he was left to tinker and buy ya a cup of coffee in honnor of that man and many others like him lets get to the bottom of #Epstines Pizza Gates express and boogy woogy all night long

Based

Redpilled

*nice*

Frank was a stand up man I think he drank his last beer (died) a couple years back

Idk if this counts as a war story but I have a serious question about something I feel awful about

@Fe4r_incarnate you've got other service members, ems, etc here. Go for it

Shoot it king

So tonight, a good friend of mine got home from the military, he was honorably discharged, had a medical issue with his back, whatever. We've been friends for a while, he served one tour in afghanistan, but never once did he ever show any sign of anything ever bugging him. He used to joke about it and stuff... and even tonight he was joking about it.... but I think he got drunk, and his dad and I were talking about how I had almost joined Combat Search and rescue but couldn't swim... and my buddy (obviously drunk) started talking about something to do with a "soul for a soul" and I didn't understand, and I thought he was joking so I asked what he meant, and he just kept repeating it and said he had friends die and shit (which my other friend and I who were there both remember him saying nobody he cared about died) and he started crying and he and his family got up and left, his dad came back and reassured us that everything was okay and it was just because he was drunk... but I feel awful, I don't know if I triggered something or said something I shouldn't have, I've NEVER seen this guy even remotely bothered by anything, and literally 10 minutes before we were joking around and having a great time. Does he have PTSD? Is there something wrong that I need to take better care of in the future? I mean this guy is the most care free, happy guy I know, I genuinely don't know what happened.

I had even picked him up early from the airport to help surprise his parents and he was super happy, joking with me, playing his favorite songs and shit. I just don't know what happened. I feel like somewhere I did something wrong because he seemed upset because of me, and when he left he even tried to give me his debit card (?) I just don't know... was it because he was drunk? I don't get it

PTSD, yeah sounds like it

Is that usually triggered with alcohol? I just felt like such an ass... his dad and I were joking and next thing I knew he was crying and trying to get up to leave

But he was definitely drunk. His dad mouthed out "hes drunk, talk to him tomorrow" but I just... i dunno. Seemed like something more than that, but I can't help but feel responsible.

Yes.

You probably didnt do anything wrong mate.

Dont do anything irrational though. Dude has his own thing he has to deal with. Caveat that though, you need to be available for him and let him know you have his back. Tell him, seriously, when you're both sober, that you have his back.

I would say tell him you care about him but those would be your words.

Well alcoholowers inhibitions. Maybe you saw that mask slip a bit. I'd just be there and care for him, with out prodding too much. Let him know its ok

@Fe4r_incarnate a lot of shit can trigger it. Specially when it's fresh

The horrible thing is like, at first when he started getting serious, it almost seemed like he was joking, and like, he joke-cries all the time so I didn't even realize or imemdiately acknowledge it

Sounds close to a defensive mechanism for that. But I don't have as much first hand experience

Honestly a major issue with a lot of what happens is that they find purpose while away. When they come home the world has moved on without them.

But when he got up he was literally bawling and I felt so awful... I haven't been able to think about anything else for the last 2 hours

I've noticed a lot of guys coming back, outside of being disenfranchised by society, dont have the comeradery and mission. Civie life is different. Provide for him that ride or die comeradery. That caring. dont be too touchy feely man. But be there for him.

@Hellhound6 beat me to it

Be smol ghey

You gotta care for your homies

Honestly readjusting is a big step and a hard one.

He and I are already really good friends, but I had just never seen this side of him so I almost thought he was faking at first. So did my other friend

Like it seemed so out of the blue like drunk him was pulling a prank... we definitely didn't treat it like that but thats what it seemed like until it boiled over

Here I'll send you what I said to him over messenger about an hour ago, can you honestly tell me if I said the right shit?

@Fe4r_incarnate just be there for him. Make sure he knows he isn't alone. Guide him towards help, but he's the only one that can actually fix it

@Fe4r_incarnate have a cigerette, pray if you pray, shoot him a text saying you'll see him tomorrow, and hit him up tomorrow. Let him know what he said concerned you. Tell him you got his back.

But that's the best you can do.

Also dude my break down happened 3 bottles of whiskey in at a friend's birthday. So it be like that

Dude i'm sorry I didn't realize the conversation had shifted to something serious I thought we were all still joking, I didn't mean to upset you I love you dude and I'm thankful for you, and I'm glad you're in my life, I didn't realize I had crossed a line or anything until it was too late dude. I feel awful, I'm sorry.

(Replaced his name with dude, he deserves to be anon)

I've had two friends opt out mate. Even with good support networks, sometimes it isnt good enough. Society is breaking men. Best we can do is remind kings what they are. Build the community around us that supports one another and out needs as men.

@Hellhound6 takes me a quart of jaeger lol

Was that too pushy

@Fe4r_incarnate you saw a strong man have a break down. I wouldn't blame you for sending that.

@Fe4r_incarnate again, just talk to him tomorrow

This guy is one of my best friends. We've been bois for a while. I just have never seen that side of him and it hurts me. I hope he isn't depressed

Hears the thing, because you cry n shit doesnt make him weak. If he lets it control him, that's the thing

Remind him that he's strong

@mcguyver123 also, agreed

Now or once he is sober

Sober

Let it cool down a little first

@Fe4r_incarnate sober

Also @Fe4r_incarnate you didn't do anything wrong. You dont have to apologize. Just be there for your bro

@thedarkness05this

But what if I did? What if by not taking him seriously right away I genuinely hurt him?

Nah dude

Trust me, you'd know

Nah man, just acknowledge that you didnt at first. But if he needs you, he can come to you to help deal with it. Straight talk, no bullshit

Also, his dad telling me to just talk to him tomorrow kinda makes me think this has happened before, but behind closed doors. I just can't help but feel responsible. We shouldn't have been talking about the military at all.

Nah

If you avoid it. It can be just as bad

@Fe4r_incarnate dude if he was talking it's fine. He was talkin. If he didnt wanna talk hed have said so.

@Hellhound6 that too

It's one of those things where as long as you're there when they open up

Don't coddle him, but listen

Its a balance, but you'll get it. And it does seem like you show genuine concern for him. He's lucky to have you on his side

Agreed

Directly confronting him about what happend and just tryna be there for him.

I only came here because I know its a chat he isn't in, I don't want him to know I talked about it but I just genuinely have no idea how to handle this. His dad seemed to completely understand my other friend and I, but his step mom seemed mad at us... she was also a little drunk... its just weird. Never experienced that before... my brother has ptsd from his 2 tours in iraq but its a lot different for him. Its less emotional, more just brain damage. Like he forgets shit all the time and stuff. I have never seen one of my close friends break down like this.

@Fe4r_incarnate it will be ok man.

Find a way to destress enough to sleep, and approach problem tomorrow.

Well thanks for the advice guys... if theres anything else just @ me please.. I don't know how to handle this

We've got you man

Yeah, we look out for our own, same as you do

Final question, would it be bad if i messaged one of his parents to apologize to them, and explain that I had no idea? Because I don't want them to think I don't care about their son or that I somehow purposely set him off?

Id just go to homie first

@Fe4r_incarnate fuck the parents, just talk to him.

Let it breathe till tomorrow homie. Then talk to your boy

Nah, this about him, not the family. Real talk, most families just try to hide it and act Like everything is ok

Okay.. i just hope his stepmom doesn't hate me now lol

@Fe4r_incarnate stop worrying about what the parents think. You're not engaged to em, itll be ok. Destress. Seriously. If you can, add that to a list of things to work on. Active destressing. A little off subject but it helps in situations like this because you can think clearer if you arent having a mild panic reaction.

^

So hes all good, and my other buddy and I told him that we both are there for him no matter what goes down, and hes gonna come open his christmas presents from us tonight

@Fe4r_incarnate nice

Glad to hear it

these r not war storoes ... hes taking it pretty good by the sound of it ... war isnt pretty

https://youtu.be/LA3uV_YXZAk

Once upon a time I was in Afghanistan in the Army. We were on a patrol and were called over the radio. They needed QRF to go to an adjacent village and assist the local populace with a societal disturbance. We show up and they are actively pouring gas on this chick, gonna burn her to death because the wind blew her burqa off her head. We move to step in, Afghan police stop us. Tells us its the law. She was betrothed to the villiage imam and now she is unpure.

So we sit and watch them burn her to death, and throw rocks at her. It was fucked.

Still think of how many ragheads i shoulda shot over that, but I'm glad I didn't in the end

@Ramrod1992 typical 3rd world village shit