lots of it

Your using the internet

>saying the internet is inherently bad on the internet

In the old world, a man's beliefs came from his family and community because they were the only people who had access to his young mind. In the modern world all communication is ultra-centralized, giving media elites vast influence over the beliefs of all young or naive people.

To not use the internet in modern society is to basically shoot yourself in the foot. Saying its bad and then using it is not hypocritical

We just either dont know how to use it or use it too well

In the context of our world, radio, television, and the internet are cultural weapons of mass destruction.

I don't care I wanna watch family guy

It is right to use the internet like it is right to own a gun

because you must stay on top of the most powerful technology or be trampled

But would the world be better off if it had never been invented? Absolutely.

It was very bad.

For society as a whole

I don't know man, I like my communication and networks

even though I personally enjoy it

The invention of the internet was horrible. We need to go back to living in mud huts.

degeneracy this, degenracy that. Who gives a fuck

gas yourself

^

no 😎

either learn to fight for your culture now, or wait until your queer mulatto grandchildren make the truth plain enough for even you to understand

Lol, I'm sure he wouldn't care about that

I bet he would

any sane man would

so how about I use to internet to spread the message of culture?

Well, most people aren't sane, then

most people are sane, they are just distracted and demoralized

fair

so I don't get it? The internet is bad so therefore we must use it as a tool to spread the good word?

If you don't use the internet you might as well be jobless

bet

It is an integral part of society now

for a reason

For ease of communication and speedily tracking transactions, etc, yes

It's obvious why it's used

No one saying the internet is bad is arguing it hasn't improved the efficiency of society

Internet insanely increased the advancement of science

Right, so, people are going to be talking past each other. Everyone agrees the internet improved the efficiency of society and scientific discoveries, etc., but not everyone agrees that __those__ things are good.

Or, at least, that those benefits don't outweigh the adverse effects

People are really saying "Internet good because technology" and the opposition is saying "internet bad because technology"

should be arguing about technology

from what view point?

advances in technology brings new tools to the table for humans to use them however they want/can

so

i think this conversation will eventually lead to a debate about human nature and morality

When you think about it, that's what most any argument boils down to

eh true

Internet was ultimately better for spreading ideas and connecting people, but it has degenerated everything we do

Our children are fucking degenerates

We were already on the course of degeneration

yeah but not nearly on this level

internet just helped expose the degeneracy

the internet is just a more sophisticated telephone

more like a newspaper

but sure

true i agree

basically the medium itself is not bad, however the ways it has been used, due to a lack of any control really, it has become the wild west

we need to delete the internet and try again

the issue si the people that won this wild west are degenerates

theoretically, you can't *really* regulate the internet right?

You could, but at this point the feat is beyond monumental

like

if your country only had one internet provider

that was controlled by the state 100%

and you lived in a totalitarian state let's say

the average citizen still would have ways to access the open internet right?

You can tunnel around basically any firewall. It's just becoming increasingly difficult as that technology increases

I'm virgin.

VPN

Or TOR

we should force everyone to think the same

Speaking of Tor

Brave has a built in TOR feature and runs on the Chrome engine

Let's get your shit together for fuck sakes and not live in a third world shit hole

It's basically chrome except it doesn't track you

Download it

@The Big Oof I didn't know that

Damn

https://brave.com/

Even supports Chrome extensions

And again, it doesn't track you

Chrome is open source, and Brave makes its money off of optional ads

Excuse me, I'm not using virgin browsers.

>is literally running on open source Chrome code

>doesn't track you

>built in ad blocker

>virgin browser

Shut up virgin.

its speed is a bit exaggerated, some sites it does load super fast, those with lots of ads, but in general it loads about the same, slightly slower, than Chrome

since they switched to the Chrome engine, at least

V i r g i n .

Internet is good insofar as it can allow a greater abilities of coordination (and so power) and spread of ideas/information to be applied for the destruction of the techno-industrial system. Otherwise it's a cesspool where the worst of mankind can fester outside of the historical normal technics of social control, a cudgel to destroy humanity, and a more efficient tool to further the financialisation of the real economy by creating more ''money'' than the actual energy output and indirectly impoverishing and brutalise the people who live outside the financial and information economy.

I have a Question

I have a fucking question

Can you without a doubt 100% prove to me that evolution actually happened

Can you without a doubt 100% Prove to me that God doesnt exist

Thats a good QOTD

@Earl of Morrrrgantown

Daily Question 🔖

Are athiests responsible for the West's decline?

@everyone

Yes

No

.

No

some of it probably

I dont think so

Partially

It'd be stupid to think so

yes

atheists are rapists

^

False

yes

Partially.

Atheism is a product of the west

I don't think atheism is particularly a product of the west

It is tho

US government was designed to be seperate from religion to begin with (seperation of church and state)

Like it came about from the enlightenment

Atheism technically exists in Hinduism

That's an oxymoron

and even then it didn't

@Silkiri pretty sure atheism is a product of not believing

Atheism comes with real answers to questions religion used to answer

Yes, along with Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, etc. Only Christianity preserves and grows the West’s greatness.

Atheism for the goyim

how does christianity preserve and grow the west's greatness

Jew = Atheist

The Enlightenment started the decline

That's rarted

No, it just so happens that many people with bad ideology happen to be atheist. The problem is infiltration of our universities by Marxists.

no

well in what way are we deeming a "decline" in the west

@Silkiri It is the bedrock in which Europe and NA was built.

because before the enlightenment let's not be retarded

and say that Europe was a bastion of freedom

and Christianity by no means made the West have a "bedrock" of foundation

it was a political tool used especially by popes

The Elightenment is responsible.

for causing mass murders

the moral bankrupcy of today can be mostly attributed to nihilists who have taken over the mainstream narrative, but is atheism nihilistic in nature?

Atheism is just a consequence.

Out of many.

The Enlightenment brought us out of barbaric morality

and gave us human rights

I'm an atheist, but I do think religion must be replaced with something else if we are to do away with it. People must have a sense of purpose and belonging, this is what is missing in society.

Nationalism is the replacement

^

IDK how you can be right wing and an atheist

Yes you can

ez

I' m a communist

Me too

but replacing religious fever with nationalistic one

would be a decent replacement imo

Oh boo no

But you can't blame religions to be the main things that destroy cultures and traditions

delete commies

But if you are an atheist than why give a hoot about your fellow man? Religion gives you a purpose.

religion is a product of culture

@Enigmatic★Chromatic It's really very easy. Anyway, religion is going away no matter what.

@Victor Von Doom because we treat others the way we want to be treated

Why?

That's because there is a progressive momentum to history

you can hate degeneracy without calling it "sinful"

How can you be nationalist and communist

because i've already killed and raped everyone I've wanted to kill and rape

and that's no one

Lol no. Atheists have a low birthrate, probably below replacement rate

and classical economics are irrelevent to religion

Bourre very easily

the Soviets were rather nationalistic

and were trying quite hard to russify their provinces

@Silkiri human rights are useless.

@Victor Von Doom I care about my people and I want people in general to do well. I guess I care about people because I'm not an asshole that is only restrained by some fear of punishment from god. Is that really what stops people from being garbage? I don't think so.

(Soviet Republics)

miguelby that's stupid

Rights are earned, not given.

how are they earned

Yeah but isn't the main objective of communism to make a one ruled world to make it united?

They should.

Bourre it's not a fundamental goal of communism

Do you think criminals should have human rights? @Silkiri

depends on the atheist

depending on the crime they've committed

Lol.

everyone has human rights

untill they violate them

themselves

if you mean (((them))) then yes

if you are the autist then also yes

No one who causes a notorious harm to society deserves human rights.

Communism is international, not globalist

well obviously

if you are an agnostic but dont start shit

By making organisms like The International you're against nationalism

This is why Western justice systems are a joke.

you are fine

Inter being, between nations, not one single nation

Bourre not really

@t r u e We aren’t scared of God, we just follow God’s will.

you're directing the goal of people to push not themselves

or those around them further

but all of humanity furhter

*further

the State if you will

and the state is to expand as much as possible

I'm a more De Leonist Communist myself

Damn

Yeah,so you want to replace the Religion influence by the state influence

Rights are a subjective human concept, nothing more than "I think we should treat people this way".

Become a Maoist

ehhhhh

Marxism Leninism Maoism is lit

I like the idea of industrial unions

buddy

By nature every living being has rights. But the purpose of civilization and society should be to master those rights of the human being, to where they are disciplined and thus the state or other force cannot force the individual into certain actions with the penalty being punishment, for the individual has been disciplined and knows what is most moral.
Still the individual can choose to be a jackass aslong he or she does not wish to bring harm upon the rest of the group.

when a meme is so cucked its *actually* based

That's nice.

Basically with discipline and traditional values you can still have individualistic rights.

To create discipline you have to show strenght.

my one friend irl started to larp around as a pagang

what do

Why do you think Singapore doesn't have a drug problem? @Zusheng

Because drug crimes are given the death penalty.

The movement have to be a reborn of the Christian/Pagan knight spirit

Singapore's president was found to be doing drugs himself

@Silkiri Maoism isn't opposed to industrialization, but honestly anyone with half a brain should be opposed to industrialization and be anti-civ

the sorta based but still larpy kind (like odin praising) not *i dance naked in a forest* kind

wait nvm I was wrong

Even you're not into the god and the religious thing,follow your culture as the leading of your life

that was president of phillipines mybad

Duterte?

ye

Well ofcourse. That problem being, today's age is that of the Kali Yuga. Thus we need a force to re educate the people.

He's worthless

And an western imperialist pawn

Enigmatic

Duterte has a good idea, but executes it poorly.

why should we oppose industrialization?

Who is Duterte?

Duterte is the president of the phillipines

Why should we oppose degeneracy?<:hangthink:487681962505404416>

Oh, another puppet..

wonderful

Firstly factories are alienating, and secondly we should scale back production and localize it. This isn't a primmie anti-tech stance btw

@mondobizarrro

The only thing you have to follow is the natural order

Just anti-factory