I just wondered what would happen if everyone was convinced that there is no god

It would probably lead to extreme transhumanism

That'd be lit

Dumbass

@Obungus Atheists can live a moral life

It's pretty easy to think off 2 lists with actions that are moral and not

Based on those lists we can assign morals

Education gives most people, at least atheists an idea of what's good and bad

So based off that you could say that atheists can still believe in good and evil but reject the idea of god

@Obungus but my point is that atheists actually do have something to make anything evil or good

So what's objective according to you

If this isn't objective "God's" morals would also be subjective

And again based on reason and science atheists can have morals

And where do God's morals come from

Because he commands it?

And you have to listen to It

So what happens if you ignore him

Indeed

So you have to follow or else you'll get punished

That makes his moral's arbitrary

Because they're arbitrary it would mean God's morals are subjective

How so?

I'm not saying good and evil do not exist

I'm saying that based off your logic god's morals would be subjective

How does it not make sense?

According to what religion

So you mean that you get your morals from the Bible

But in general you get them from the Bible

You read it in the Bible and assume it is true so you get them from the Bible

The Bible is subjective because the morals communicated through the Bible change constantly and contradict in the Bible

For example the "thou shalt not kill"

Where in the Bible itself it is okay to kill non believers or disobedient children

According to the Bible disobedient children are guilty

So they get killed

And it is okay according to the Bible

Whatever they did it is still a contradiction to the thou shalt not kill moral

@Obungus how about the case of rape then

No

About how it is okay to rape people if they're virgin's and are prisoners of war

And forcing them to marry you

Deuteronomy 21:10-25:19 Good News Translation (GNT)

Concerning Women Prisoners of War

10 “When the Lord your God gives you victory in battle and you take prisoners, 11 you may see among them a beautiful woman that you like and want to marry. 12 Take her to your home, where she will shave her head,[a] cut her fingernails, 13 and change her clothes. She is to stay in your home and mourn for her parents for a month; after that, you may marry her.

@Obungus the link is about something else

Uhm he does

It is stated that the man can go out of the marriage if he wants

@Obungus pretty sure the dishonor comes from forcing her to have intercourse with you

GNT

What's that supposed to mean

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It means

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If it's about the GNT translation, it is one of the most accurate translations

It is used by every mayor Christian denomination in the US

So I'm pretty sure that there's nothing wrong with the translation

I wonder if that wall will ever be built

I think we should focus more on lab grown meat if we want to do something about the climate

Would save us a whole lotta water

And a whole lotta co2

Also

Nice

Can't wait to see that wall

@Victor Von Doom
It also states that the man can rape the woman

You may go in to her reffers to intercourse

The only difference is that in the GNT it's called intercourse

Obama once stated that he was against gay marriage

A few years later he contradicted himself

Saying that he was all for gay marriage after the polls changed

Obama dad is giving me some heavy trust issues

@Koninos

He also does this^^

Ew lefties

True

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ the Obama administration approved the funding though

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ there is also no evidence that Obama himself had any role in the funding

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ it's not a bad thing Obama did, it's a bad thing his administration did

We're talking about Obunga only

If there is no evidence of his role in this we can't link him to it

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-isra-terrorism-funding/

Fact check

As long as there is no evidence you can't claim that he did it

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ it's very unlikely but the administration still could've passed it without Obama knowing

If you tell me that he did it it will be the same as if you send someone to death sentence without enough evidence

They can still pass it without him knowing, I can also lend something from you without asking your permission

@sɪᴅɪsɴᴏᴛʜᴇʀᴇ depends

@unit we don't strive to fight, we strive for an agreement

Also tourism is good for the economy, why wouldn't they want that @unit

He said it clearly isn't

@unit wth is that supposed to mean

How did you draw that conclusion

He does

He doesn't understand why they would allow that

Tourism plays a big role in the economy of a lot of countries

Why would they put that source of income away

@unit can you explain to me what for you makes it viable for a country to deny tourism

How can you not explain your point to me

You just put a statement in the chat and I'm trying to understand you

So you think your point is insane @unit ??

@unit how so

Do you think it's reasonable to deny access to family and friends in another country