Taxes dont matter

this guy

Capitalists believe it is good for a nation to have a people whose goal in life is to make money.

what is your definitive understanding of capitalism, tankie?

This guy is so far left he literally thinks if you believe in private property you're a capitalist.

Because it's true

I'm a corporatist and a distributist.

So?

@Advocatus Diaboli define capitalism

i'll humor you

considering you believe that a pogrom is anti jewish violence

i dont see your definitions as being wholly correct

Capitalism is an economic system with private property of the means of production where wage labour is used to produce goods and services

define private property then because no system today has total private property

using your definition only anarcho-capitalism abides

your understanding of capitalism is a system that has any private property at all

which is completely untrue

and has never been treated as such by anyone except for marx and his followers.

Private property is a right of individual to manage things he owns in a way he considers the most beneficial

@Advocatus Diaboli ok, so then by your definition of capitalism there is no system in the world that is capitalistic. Because every system has **some** public ownership

again, if your definition of capitalism is that there just **is** private ownership at all, then I do not accept your definition and think it is ludicrous

Please put in mind that personal property =/= private property

Lol wtf

@Advocatus Diaboli and there is public property in every system too, if you want me to abide by your differentiation

natural monopolies, for instance

national railways

fucking streetlights

and roads

sewage systems

Teddy Roosevelt will always be one of my favorite presidents

If there's a single corporation, no matter how small it is, and it's not run by the state nor it's a cooperative, then it's capitalism

Because the only purpose of private property is making profit

What do you mean by private property

@Advocatus Diaboli like I said, that is not capitalism

What is the purpose of profit though?

that's an absolutist take i've never heard of

that is your view of capitalism

it's a very uneducated and broad view

What is capitalism then?

Is it profit to fund something, or profit because you just want to be rich?

@Advocatus Diaboli answer me

What is private property to you

Capitalism exists on a spectrum.

@GucciToiletSalesman Scroll up a bit, there's my answer

K

Wait

Capitalism is not a political ideology, it's an economic system

By your definition every system EVER has been capitalistic

So is hunting grounds considered for profit?

What

there has never been a system where a man did not make something and sell it to someone for profit.

Because most hunting grounds are either state owned or private property

and there never will be one

USSR

wrong

1929-1956

you dont think there were people who created objects and sold them?

you think that was outside the realm of possibility?

they existed

they existed for profit

therefore

capitalism

so

stalin was a capitalist pig

kill him

You forgot about the second part of my definition

Waged labour

no, like you said

"If there's a single corporation, no matter how small it is, and it's not run by the state nor it's a cooperative, then it's capitalism(edited)
Because the only purpose of private property is making profit"

the communist loves to abuse definitions

this goy isn't falling for it.

and soviet russia had a currency and a wage system anyway lmao

before and after stalin

But it wasn't waged labour because the means of production were owned by the workers

look above your own quoted definition

if x then y

x = corporation existing

y = capitalism

x existed in communism

therefore it was capitalism

Corporations didn't exist in the USSR during 1929-1956

and the wage was the profit the man makes from selling his object

this kind of discussion belongs in the regular politicord but alright lol

!rank

legally, one man undertaking the role of a company may be a company himself

you think of corporations as being divergent from humanity, soulless beings, yet you are wrong

one man can undertake the role of a corporation

and in my example the man does so

if you stockpile some wood, carve out duck toys out of them and sell them to your friends, you''re a corporation working for profit

Look, I can't precisely translate the term to English. In my language there's a term for a company where owners theirselves don't participate in the process of production. English word 'corporation' is just a rough equivalent.

Where you form anyhow

a russo obviously

Ukraine

Huh

same thing

Ukraine huh

bloody separatist!

Interesting

@Advocatus Diaboli that doesn't matter

private property isn't just made in the form of a corporation