Message from @GucciToiletSalesman

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2018-05-28 16:54:06 UTC  

Capitalists believe it is good for a nation to have a people whose goal in life is to make money.

2018-05-28 16:54:42 UTC  

what is your definitive understanding of capitalism, tankie?

2018-05-28 16:54:42 UTC  

This guy is so far left he literally thinks if you believe in private property you're a capitalist.

2018-05-28 16:54:57 UTC  

Because it's true

2018-05-28 16:55:08 UTC  

I'm a corporatist and a distributist.

2018-05-28 16:55:20 UTC  

So?

2018-05-28 16:55:22 UTC  

@Advocatus Diaboli define capitalism

2018-05-28 16:55:27 UTC  

i'll humor you

2018-05-28 16:56:20 UTC  

considering you believe that a pogrom is anti jewish violence

2018-05-28 16:56:29 UTC  

i dont see your definitions as being wholly correct

2018-05-28 16:56:30 UTC  

Capitalism is an economic system with private property of the means of production where wage labour is used to produce goods and services

2018-05-28 16:56:51 UTC  

define private property then because no system today has total private property

2018-05-28 16:57:34 UTC  

using your definition only anarcho-capitalism abides

2018-05-28 16:57:56 UTC  

your understanding of capitalism is a system that has any private property at all

2018-05-28 16:58:01 UTC  

which is completely untrue

2018-05-28 16:58:21 UTC  

and has never been treated as such by anyone except for marx and his followers.

2018-05-28 17:03:26 UTC  

Private property is a right of individual to manage things he owns in a way he considers the most beneficial

2018-05-28 17:04:22 UTC  

@Advocatus Diaboli ok, so then by your definition of capitalism there is no system in the world that is capitalistic. Because every system has **some** public ownership

2018-05-28 17:05:12 UTC  

again, if your definition of capitalism is that there just **is** private ownership at all, then I do not accept your definition and think it is ludicrous

2018-05-28 17:05:56 UTC  

Please put in mind that personal property =/= private property

2018-05-28 17:06:36 UTC  

Lol wtf

2018-05-28 17:06:47 UTC  

@Advocatus Diaboli and there is public property in every system too, if you want me to abide by your differentiation

2018-05-28 17:07:03 UTC  

natural monopolies, for instance

2018-05-28 17:07:12 UTC  

national railways

2018-05-28 17:07:19 UTC  

fucking streetlights

2018-05-28 17:07:25 UTC  

and roads

2018-05-28 17:07:35 UTC  

sewage systems

2018-05-28 17:08:07 UTC  

Teddy Roosevelt will always be one of my favorite presidents

2018-05-28 17:09:24 UTC  

If there's a single corporation, no matter how small it is, and it's not run by the state nor it's a cooperative, then it's capitalism

2018-05-28 17:10:17 UTC  

Because the only purpose of private property is making profit

2018-05-28 17:10:49 UTC  

What do you mean by private property

2018-05-28 17:11:14 UTC  

@Advocatus Diaboli like I said, that is not capitalism

2018-05-28 17:11:17 UTC  

What is the purpose of profit though?

2018-05-28 17:11:19 UTC  

that's an absolutist take i've never heard of

2018-05-28 17:11:20 UTC  

that is your view of capitalism

2018-05-28 17:11:27 UTC  

it's a very uneducated and broad view

2018-05-28 17:11:33 UTC  

What is capitalism then?

2018-05-28 17:11:33 UTC  

Is it profit to fund something, or profit because you just want to be rich?

2018-05-28 17:11:40 UTC  
2018-05-28 17:11:50 UTC  

What is private property to you

2018-05-28 17:11:51 UTC  

Capitalism exists on a spectrum.