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can trace my parents back from Northern Spain though
still going to try my hardest, after Moore you can never try too hard
polling in FL has Scott and Nelson pretty close, so I'm sure it's achievable
not really anyone with more name recognition than the governor, he's a bit of an immigration pushover though
hopefully he'd fall in line if Trump tells him to
trying to make this senate list, get to california, then get completely stumped
everyone running doesn't even have a wikipedia page
I know it's basically suicide in that state, but it's so damn big is the thing
you'd think there'd be someone, like a James Woods or something that'd put their hat in the ring
s/he's still under potential candidates is the thing
I'll put him in then just to have someone I guess
I know, but you always want to be sure, after Moore, nothing can be certain
this is why we need strict federal voter ID, the stuff people can get away with in cali's voting system is insane
it's like that a lot up in New England, lot of union type voting for Ds
hopefully one of these days if the GOP ends up being more like a worker's party like Trump's trying to make it, there'll be a few flips
open borders are a massive deal breaker
if they have an anti immigration position, I think that's really the only metric to care about
yeah, Flake and Corker have really been the only ones who have posed an issue legislatively who are up this year, looking at Alabama, that should've never been lost
his goal was to take out McConnell, but by just pushing Moore into the nomination and abandoning the campaign after the allegations, he's given McConnell more clout than he could've ever imagined
now we're asking the question "is this guy going to be a risk" after what happened because of Bannon
another thing, bringing the guy from Blackwater to run in Wyoming is such a ridiculous idea, what has he even done in the state
the thing is, a lot of people had it in their heads that he was the voice behind MAGA, and that he was what won the campaign
I think that Trump's endorsement would've been enough to win Strange the primary, but the thing is at the time people had the idea that Bannon was a MAGA agent working outside the White House on Trump's command
there's no real way of knowing now I guess
he definitely shouldn't have watched football during that last weekend though
during those last few days of the presidential campaign, Trump was fucking grinding it with those rallies, 4 states in a day, that's the mentality we need
The rich who live in the suburbs watching Fox the whole time definitely stayed home in AL
what did that video of the truck mowing down the kids actually scare them or something
he's still popular within his base, which should be a sign
our people should 100% make sure to go to the polls when they need to
in primaries, recognizability is the most important factor, when it came to the dem primaries in 2016, who's more recognizable, the former 1st lady and secretary of state, or a senator from vermont
fair enough, and I remember the wikileaks emails that showed that the media wanted trump to win to make sure that clinton would win, but the principle still stands for me
take a look at FL polls for the primaries and the MI polls before Kid Rock dropped out, they blow the competitors in their own party by miles
it'd probably be over half not knowing in VA
I suppose, yeah, the typical normie who gets bombarded by media and entertainment 24 hours a day probably wouldn't be right wing though
I wish twitter would shut the fuck about him for a second though
there definitely has been a real paradigm shift in the fact that there's more people involved in politics nowadays
the twitter system itself is so manipulative and scummy
man I wish Nehlen's bill was in effect
the shallnotcensor bill he put up looks perfect
not sure if that tactic is good enough, I don't think he has a great chance, but watching him speak live he seems amicable to the average person I think
a shift in the overton window is much more effective when a person in elected office does it rather than a candidate
I mean, take a look at the shithole situation, you have people on Fox and average Trump supporters dissing Haiti, when they'd never dare to before he said it
that kind of stuff is good for fanfiction, but I wouldn't count on it realistically
it's like those 4d chess guys who talk about mueller being a Trump agent, you have to take some things the way they are
not everything is some machiavellian scheme
they're both hated within their own party
Flake and McCain are risks when it comes to ordinary R legislation
Ted stays on the ball when it comes to getting stuff done in the senate though
lmao that's the one thing we can count on not happening
one thing I think could give him the edge is the possibility of the clintons going down
if it happens near the midterms I could definitely see it galvanizing a lot of Rs
remember after the baseball game where the majority whip got shot
normies associate party members with other party members, that kind of news could breathe some new life into the electiosn
point is, having the "swamp drained" would be a gigantic victory for the right wing in general and bring a lot of new excitement to those who voted against clinton they hadn't felt since the presidency
until then, I'd focus on getting these people in office
the thing is, how do we accomplish something similar w/ an R congress and president
Trump definitely should have a strategy room for this, it's the most important thing possible between now and 2020
this will get him a wall, RAISE, obamacare repeal, whatever he wants, he would fulfill so many campaign promises potentially with congress that much on his side if he breaks the amnesty coalition
y'know, some day I may run if the opportunity arises
there's so much damn potential that can be done nowadays
kinda like the pic of Nehlen w/ a Five Guys wrapper, it brings him down to earth, right?
the thing we have to figure out is how we get about channeling that grassroots energy into a party with a majority in Congress
technically the amnesty coalition is the majority, but the Rs have the illusion of power
we seem like the "establishment" now to the uninformed person, how do we turn it around?
I mean uninformed in the sense of watching MSM day after day, not really as apolitical
the Trump physical energy rallies people like nothing else
I have no doubt that Moore would've won if Trump made an appearance in Alabma
maybe we can try a reprisal on the Hillary effect? "hey you guys won Alabama, West Virginia is going to be just fine", something along those lines.
maybe if the economy stays on Trump's side and the tax bill can allow them to flourish, they may turn more friendly to Trump?
I tell you what, if someone in the last administration goes to prison, that'll bring fire right to the base
maybe that'd be an ironic twist to Moore losing, that it brings more senate seats to the right than if he would've won
at least that's a fantasy I'd like to imagine
suburban voters could probably be put to excitement by more "normie conservative" type accomplishments like taxes and the such
so in that case, how do we motivate the moderates to vote for Rs?
I tell you, if Trump does something big justice-wise, there'll be a lot more trump base voters who will show up to the polls. Campaign ads would be crazy, lot of hype would enter the ring, and that would make it unnecessary for the need to involve libertarians and moderates
the economy slant could be good for moderates
that'd be more of a Trump issue in specific than republican congressional candidates
what would motivate someone to go and vote for the right wing
if the republicans were as enthusiastic to vote for trump's policies as the democrats are to vote against them, we'd have the wall already completely built by now
the fact we even have to make deals is ridiculous
this is why Trump's gotta mold the GOP
issue is that all that potential may have been squandered after Moore
in Arizona there'll definitely be a better R than Flake up, but what do we do other than that?
make it to where when you think "republican" you think Trump and not Bush/McCain
it's hard to think of an example, really
not just immigration hardliners, which is extremely important, but a care for the US in trade, allowing our interests to be beholden to no other nation
I've heard that angle, not sure if it'll be valid, but it's worth a shot
I think personally Trump set the 'DACA deal' up to fail
yeah I know, I'm focusing more on DACA than the shutdown
Trump's been placing the blame on the inevitable fall of the deal on DACA, where he can frame that as the Dems screwing up
It's like a catch-22, if no deal is made, the Dems couldn't save the Dreamers when the Rs were willing to make a deal, if a deal is made, then a shift in the immigration system will have less legal immigration which will cost Dems, also Trump would get the wall which may make Dems look weak.
I don't know how the average voter would interpret it, but fingers are crossed all things considered
I don't even know if DACA is going to be relevant in 10 months
We'll see about what it does, I hope Trump has a good strategy in mind
meanwhile thread w/ subject 'fat fuck' has 300 replies
quality definitely has been depressed in the last few months
eceleb stuff is interesting to people, getting people in office isn't
from what I gather Kraut got a race realism advocate taken off the internet, then made a discord to dox a bunch of people on the right, it got leaked, then he shut his channel down
skeptic community dies, end of story
anyways, I think getting the people who voted Trump to vote in the midterms is a good way to go, maybe Trump has some kind of justice plot brewing behind the scenes, but I'm not placing all my chips on that
maybe we could shill tax reform to moderates, and it could work, not 100% on that though
yeah it seems like a done and over story, Jim made his last video on it
the debates w/ spencer and sargon are a lot more fresh in terms of eceleb stuff than the kraut story
no one complains about any of the threads except for ours
it's just so fucking unproductive that it's insane
you'd think that with the amount of shit that gets plastered on this website on a minute to minute basis that no one would have any qualms about a thread dedicated to getting people elected
these people live in a fantasy if they think their little turner diaries race war bullshit will ever fucking happen
if we want to get results, we do it with politics
eh, that'd be much more productive than what we have atm
I just can't get past the amount of pure garbage there is just every second
I used to go there daily because there was nowhere else I'd have this kind of info, but it's just depressing going in there on a common basis because of all the trash
not a big 8chan guy, I haven't really considered it
I know they are when it comes to lefty/pol/
the excuses the shills use on the threads are pathetic
>this isn't for activism it's for lulz xDDDDD
it's like they want society to continue degrading
why do so many people on the alt lite and on /pol/ talk about Austin Petersen
open borders is never someone to vote for
aye and after she gets blumpf and fence impeached she'll be president
why would anyone bar a complete fucking psychopath want that to happen
I'd rather have my ethnostate done by policy
okay, so you ruin every country on earth, then a civil war happens
don't these people consider the possibility of losing?
then white genocide would happen and sooner than they think
it's just incomprehensible how schizophrenic some of these people are
I mean, that's not always going to end well, if you overdo it, then it's over
a lot of people on /pol/ think we'll balkanize
they just don't get the American character
I like this place, I want to make it better
Jesus, these people actually do think this is the Turner Diaries
they don't get pragmatism and getting to where you want to be steadily
I mean, if it comes to having the guns taken, I'll fight, but I'm not going to fucking cross my fingers for it
@Snickers yeah, there's a nugget of truth in it, but the thing is a lot of them go way too far with it
someone like Jared Taylor is much more appealing than this accelerationist idiocy
I'm pushing to make the demographics better too, I'm not blind, but as for ethnostates where there's strict rules for who is allowed to stay and who gets deported isn't going to realistically happen
I'd say pushing family values back onto families, and having an immigration system similar to pre-'65 is how I'd put us back on track
the media doesn't care about democracy and making voters informed
they're in cahoots with a lot of them, wikileaks showed this
if it happens, but not to make it happen deliberately
if we had better margins in the house and senate, we'd have a) a wall b) a better immigration policy, literally fixes the country in generations
I just can't figure out why anyone would want this kind of shit unless you do nothing but sit and watch gladiator movies your whole life
lmao didn't her dad say the lampshades were something of history or something of that effect?
you've got to be pragmatic, that's how you do it
there's multiple ways you can bring the country back to our favor, not just by setting it on fire
more people can look at debates for this kind of stuff which I see on Warski all the time
Trump definitely wants more European immigration, he talked about it on the campaign trail and he reaffirmed it during the daca talks
if someone charismatic could make these kinds of arguments in politics, we could make something work.
There's a lot of young faces on the right, and it's definitely not for any gay classical liberalism or liberalist nonsense
I see a lot of these debates on it, and the comments always see the sense in maintaining the european nature of the US
I have no doubt that Europe will fix itself at some point, the thing is about the immigrants over there are mostly opportunistic economic migrants who don't stay if they don't get anything
I remember a story about Denmark where they slashed benefits for migrants and then in a single night, 40000 people left the country
I can see that sort of argument made for a lot of areas, but I also see parties like the AfD in Germany making a lot of gains and feeling at least a bit of hope for them
the accelerationism meme may manifest over there, I hope they get unfucked before it comes to that, but I'm not quite sure
point being, the migrants there would go back to their countries if they had no social net
I'm not really thinking too far in that direction, but I'd say that cutting welfare for immigrants could solve the problem easily
it's like you look at Poland, there's no immigrants there even though it's in the Schengen area, the reason? Economic migrants want money.
I believe eventually what would happen is that there would be a lot of nations over there which obtain governments similar to the one Austria has, and after that, migrants would have an exodus back to their homelands
if there's no free ride, there's no point in staying, I'd rather be living in a homeland which speaks my language, which there's plenty of in the Middle-East
I mean, put yourself in their shoes. You speak Arabic, you go to Europe because they don't offer dental in Turkey or Jordan. You live an easy life, then the government takes away your incentive. Why wouldn't you go back? Wouldn't you much rather be in a country which speaks your language than which doesn't?
I seriously doubt that 90% are there because they legitimately want to do the Islamic world domination stuff.
It's much more realistic that a person wants to live comfortably. Occam's razor.
the amount of beige states is very whitepilling
I like the fact it includes a candidate next to it
based on this we should expect 54/55 senators on our side?
that's about the margin we have in the house
it's probably better than most polls
the betting percentages had to come from somewhere though, right?
probably would be the best chance of getting that seat in a state that is extremely blue
So I've researched and found some projections for the house that are fairly whitepilling
they're from fairvote, a pretty accurate firm from what I've found
basically, the high confidence projections they have (which from past analyses they've accurately predicted 99.7% of, so it's extremely likely they'll get all of them right bar one or two at most) has 205 R seats and 163 D seats
this gives a field of about 63 seats in competition
218 seats are needed to have a majority, meaning Rs would need to grab at least 13 seats out of the 63 in play in order to keep the house
obviously we want much more than this for legislative purposes, but this effectively prevents any impeachment attempts
Now, if there's a 2006-esque "blue wave" with a similar makeup to that year, w/ 54% dems and 46% Rs, that still gives Rs a majority of 226 seats, at least according to FairVote
this is about 52% of the House of Representatives which would be Republican, or to give a frame of reference, about the same margin that we had in the senate before Moore's loss
Not good in my opinion, but not apocalyptic. I think the average House Republican is much more on Trump's side than the average House Democrat (anecdotal, but still my opinion), so Trump would still be able to get some good bills in I assume.
btw don't let these results get you delusional or anything
for all I know, the dems could get a ton more seats than what's considered the "blue wave" in that scenario.
our goals this year are to:
a) maintain the margins in the House, as they're decent at getting legislation passed even with Cuck Ryan.
b) increase the margins in the Senate, as they're the ones effectively blocking legislation from getting passed with a couple Senators
c) maybe get Ryan unseated, as he is a poison pill for Trump's agenda.
The cucks in the senate are already retiring, so we'd also need to make sure to prevent Romney from getting office in Utah.
they could end up being a very good metric for the federal elections
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