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2018-01-14 21:49:59 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

2018-01-14 21:50:18 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

this is adHgM/4V

2018-01-14 21:51:13 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

yes, 2nd gen American

2018-01-14 21:51:40 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

can trace my parents back from Northern Spain though

2018-01-14 21:53:35 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

district 16

2018-01-14 21:54:33 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

still going to try my hardest, after Moore you can never try too hard

2018-01-14 21:55:10 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

yeah that'll be pretty close

2018-01-14 21:56:19 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

polling in FL has Scott and Nelson pretty close, so I'm sure it's achievable

2018-01-14 22:02:42 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

potential I think

2018-01-14 22:02:56 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Trump's pushing him to, definitely

2018-01-14 22:03:54 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

not really anyone with more name recognition than the governor, he's a bit of an immigration pushover though

2018-01-14 22:04:06 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

hopefully he'd fall in line if Trump tells him to

2018-01-14 22:10:17 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

trying to make this senate list, get to california, then get completely stumped

2018-01-14 22:10:54 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

everyone running doesn't even have a wikipedia page

2018-01-14 22:11:42 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I know it's basically suicide in that state, but it's so damn big is the thing

2018-01-14 22:12:09 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

you'd think there'd be someone, like a James Woods or something that'd put their hat in the ring

2018-01-14 22:12:31 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

s/he's still under potential candidates is the thing

2018-01-14 22:13:20 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I'll put him in then just to have someone I guess

2018-01-14 22:15:01 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I know, but you always want to be sure, after Moore, nothing can be certain

2018-01-14 22:17:47 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

this is why we need strict federal voter ID, the stuff people can get away with in cali's voting system is insane

2018-01-14 22:19:59 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

it's like that a lot up in New England, lot of union type voting for Ds

2018-01-14 22:21:19 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

hopefully one of these days if the GOP ends up being more like a worker's party like Trump's trying to make it, there'll be a few flips

2018-01-14 22:22:18 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

overrated

2018-01-14 22:22:30 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

open borders are a massive deal breaker

2018-01-14 22:23:19 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

definitely

2018-01-14 22:24:03 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

if they have an anti immigration position, I think that's really the only metric to care about

2018-01-14 22:24:16 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

my goal is to have RAISE passed

2018-01-14 22:25:25 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

yeah, Flake and Corker have really been the only ones who have posed an issue legislatively who are up this year, looking at Alabama, that should've never been lost

2018-01-14 22:27:11 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

his goal was to take out McConnell, but by just pushing Moore into the nomination and abandoning the campaign after the allegations, he's given McConnell more clout than he could've ever imagined

2018-01-14 22:27:57 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

now we're asking the question "is this guy going to be a risk" after what happened because of Bannon

2018-01-14 22:29:09 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

another thing, bringing the guy from Blackwater to run in Wyoming is such a ridiculous idea, what has he even done in the state

2018-01-14 22:29:48 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

the thing is, a lot of people had it in their heads that he was the voice behind MAGA, and that he was what won the campaign

2018-01-14 22:33:49 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I think that Trump's endorsement would've been enough to win Strange the primary, but the thing is at the time people had the idea that Bannon was a MAGA agent working outside the White House on Trump's command

2018-01-14 22:35:31 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

there's no real way of knowing now I guess

2018-01-14 22:36:00 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

he definitely shouldn't have watched football during that last weekend though

2018-01-14 22:37:00 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

during those last few days of the presidential campaign, Trump was fucking grinding it with those rallies, 4 states in a day, that's the mentality we need

2018-01-14 22:38:43 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

The rich who live in the suburbs watching Fox the whole time definitely stayed home in AL

2018-01-14 22:38:51 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

no question

2018-01-14 22:43:46 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

not by much though

2018-01-14 22:47:36 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

what did that video of the truck mowing down the kids actually scare them or something

2018-01-14 22:48:29 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

he's still popular within his base, which should be a sign

2018-01-14 22:49:09 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

our people should 100% make sure to go to the polls when they need to

2018-01-14 22:53:36 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

in primaries, recognizability is the most important factor, when it came to the dem primaries in 2016, who's more recognizable, the former 1st lady and secretary of state, or a senator from vermont

2018-01-14 22:53:46 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

same with the Rs

2018-01-14 22:55:31 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

fair enough, and I remember the wikileaks emails that showed that the media wanted trump to win to make sure that clinton would win, but the principle still stands for me

2018-01-14 22:56:35 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

take a look at FL polls for the primaries and the MI polls before Kid Rock dropped out, they blow the competitors in their own party by miles

2018-01-14 22:56:56 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

referring to Rick Scott in FL btw

2018-01-14 22:57:58 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

that's why we need to mold them

2018-01-14 22:59:04 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

outside of VA, sure

2018-01-14 22:59:28 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

it'd probably be over half not knowing in VA

2018-01-14 23:01:14 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

there's some overlap

2018-01-14 23:03:04 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I suppose, yeah, the typical normie who gets bombarded by media and entertainment 24 hours a day probably wouldn't be right wing though

2018-01-14 23:04:16 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I wish twitter would shut the fuck about him for a second though

2018-01-14 23:04:55 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

there definitely has been a real paradigm shift in the fact that there's more people involved in politics nowadays

2018-01-14 23:05:31 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

the twitter system itself is so manipulative and scummy

2018-01-14 23:05:55 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

man I wish Nehlen's bill was in effect

2018-01-14 23:09:45 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

the shallnotcensor bill he put up looks perfect

2018-01-14 23:10:12 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

it'd really even the playing field

2018-01-14 23:10:26 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

he definitely went all out

2018-01-14 23:11:27 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

not sure if that tactic is good enough, I don't think he has a great chance, but watching him speak live he seems amicable to the average person I think

2018-01-14 23:12:41 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

a shift in the overton window is much more effective when a person in elected office does it rather than a candidate

2018-01-14 23:14:36 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I mean, take a look at the shithole situation, you have people on Fox and average Trump supporters dissing Haiti, when they'd never dare to before he said it

2018-01-14 23:15:21 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

lol imagine if bernie did that

2018-01-14 23:15:55 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

that kind of stuff is good for fanfiction, but I wouldn't count on it realistically

2018-01-14 23:16:45 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

it's like those 4d chess guys who talk about mueller being a Trump agent, you have to take some things the way they are

2018-01-14 23:17:12 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

not everything is some machiavellian scheme

2018-01-14 23:19:47 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

they're both hated within their own party

2018-01-14 23:20:04 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I don't doubt it's possible

2018-01-14 23:22:30 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Flake and McCain are risks when it comes to ordinary R legislation

2018-01-14 23:23:14 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Ted stays on the ball when it comes to getting stuff done in the senate though

2018-01-14 23:38:32 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

lmao that's the one thing we can count on not happening

2018-01-14 23:40:59 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

one thing I think could give him the edge is the possibility of the clintons going down

2018-01-14 23:41:17 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

if it happens near the midterms I could definitely see it galvanizing a lot of Rs

2018-01-14 23:42:20 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

remember after the baseball game where the majority whip got shot

2018-01-14 23:43:24 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

normies associate party members with other party members, that kind of news could breathe some new life into the electiosn

2018-01-14 23:43:29 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

elections*

2018-01-14 23:45:19 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

point is, having the "swamp drained" would be a gigantic victory for the right wing in general and bring a lot of new excitement to those who voted against clinton they hadn't felt since the presidency

2018-01-14 23:45:24 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

it'd be the story of the decade

2018-01-14 23:46:24 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

no way of knowing until it happens

2018-01-14 23:46:51 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

until then, I'd focus on getting these people in office

2018-01-14 23:51:35 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

the thing is, how do we accomplish something similar w/ an R congress and president

2018-01-14 23:52:22 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Trump definitely should have a strategy room for this, it's the most important thing possible between now and 2020

2018-01-14 23:53:45 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

this will get him a wall, RAISE, obamacare repeal, whatever he wants, he would fulfill so many campaign promises potentially with congress that much on his side if he breaks the amnesty coalition

2018-01-14 23:56:00 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

y'know, some day I may run if the opportunity arises

2018-01-14 23:56:16 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

there's so much damn potential that can be done nowadays

2018-01-14 23:57:14 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

kinda like the pic of Nehlen w/ a Five Guys wrapper, it brings him down to earth, right?

2018-01-14 23:58:55 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

the thing we have to figure out is how we get about channeling that grassroots energy into a party with a majority in Congress

2018-01-14 23:59:13 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

technically the amnesty coalition is the majority, but the Rs have the illusion of power

2018-01-15 00:00:14 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

we seem like the "establishment" now to the uninformed person, how do we turn it around?

2018-01-15 00:01:36 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I mean uninformed in the sense of watching MSM day after day, not really as apolitical

2018-01-15 00:01:49 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

misinformed would be more correct

2018-01-15 00:03:06 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

definitely

2018-01-15 00:03:26 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

the Trump physical energy rallies people like nothing else

2018-01-15 00:03:49 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I have no doubt that Moore would've won if Trump made an appearance in Alabma

2018-01-15 00:03:52 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Alabama

2018-01-15 00:05:24 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

maybe we can try a reprisal on the Hillary effect? "hey you guys won Alabama, West Virginia is going to be just fine", something along those lines.

2018-01-15 00:06:13 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

maybe if the economy stays on Trump's side and the tax bill can allow them to flourish, they may turn more friendly to Trump?

2018-01-15 00:06:56 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I tell you what, if someone in the last administration goes to prison, that'll bring fire right to the base

2018-01-15 00:08:04 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

maybe that'd be an ironic twist to Moore losing, that it brings more senate seats to the right than if he would've won

2018-01-15 00:08:16 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

at least that's a fantasy I'd like to imagine

2018-01-15 00:09:06 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

suburban voters could probably be put to excitement by more "normie conservative" type accomplishments like taxes and the such

2018-01-15 00:09:31 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

in what sense

2018-01-15 00:10:52 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

so in that case, how do we motivate the moderates to vote for Rs?

2018-01-15 00:12:34 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I tell you, if Trump does something big justice-wise, there'll be a lot more trump base voters who will show up to the polls. Campaign ads would be crazy, lot of hype would enter the ring, and that would make it unnecessary for the need to involve libertarians and moderates

2018-01-15 00:12:51 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

the economy slant could be good for moderates

2018-01-15 00:14:17 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

that'd be more of a Trump issue in specific than republican congressional candidates

2018-01-15 00:15:10 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

what would motivate someone to go and vote for the right wing

2018-01-15 00:15:14 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

it really sucks

2018-01-15 00:16:39 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

if the republicans were as enthusiastic to vote for trump's policies as the democrats are to vote against them, we'd have the wall already completely built by now

2018-01-15 00:17:42 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

the fact we even have to make deals is ridiculous

2018-01-15 00:18:04 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

yeah

2018-01-15 00:18:20 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

this is why Trump's gotta mold the GOP

2018-01-15 00:18:47 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

issue is that all that potential may have been squandered after Moore

2018-01-15 00:18:56 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

McConnell has a lot more clout now

2018-01-15 00:19:40 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

in Arizona there'll definitely be a better R than Flake up, but what do we do other than that?

2018-01-15 00:20:21 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

shift the core

2018-01-15 00:20:43 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

make it to where when you think "republican" you think Trump and not Bush/McCain

2018-01-15 00:21:03 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

no amnesty, America First

2018-01-15 00:21:18 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

that kind of thing

2018-01-15 00:21:40 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

with more energy

2018-01-15 00:22:10 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

it's hard to think of an example, really

2018-01-15 00:22:20 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

if Moore won, that kind of person

2018-01-15 00:24:11 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

not just immigration hardliners, which is extremely important, but a care for the US in trade, allowing our interests to be beholden to no other nation

2018-01-15 00:25:48 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I've heard that angle, not sure if it'll be valid, but it's worth a shot

2018-01-15 00:26:22 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I think personally Trump set the 'DACA deal' up to fail

2018-01-15 00:26:40 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

yeah I know, I'm focusing more on DACA than the shutdown

2018-01-15 00:27:44 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Trump's been placing the blame on the inevitable fall of the deal on DACA, where he can frame that as the Dems screwing up

2018-01-15 00:29:25 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

It's like a catch-22, if no deal is made, the Dems couldn't save the Dreamers when the Rs were willing to make a deal, if a deal is made, then a shift in the immigration system will have less legal immigration which will cost Dems, also Trump would get the wall which may make Dems look weak.

2018-01-15 00:29:56 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I don't know how the average voter would interpret it, but fingers are crossed all things considered

2018-01-15 00:32:04 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I don't even know if DACA is going to be relevant in 10 months

2018-01-15 00:33:35 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

We'll see about what it does, I hope Trump has a good strategy in mind

2018-01-15 00:34:44 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

oh well

2018-01-15 00:35:42 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

meanwhile thread w/ subject 'fat fuck' has 300 replies

2018-01-15 00:35:58 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

what a shitty website, I swear

2018-01-15 00:36:49 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

quality definitely has been depressed in the last few months

2018-01-15 00:37:22 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

eceleb stuff is interesting to people, getting people in office isn't

2018-01-15 00:38:33 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

from what I gather Kraut got a race realism advocate taken off the internet, then made a discord to dox a bunch of people on the right, it got leaked, then he shut his channel down

2018-01-15 00:38:44 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

skeptic community dies, end of story

2018-01-15 00:39:54 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

anyways, I think getting the people who voted Trump to vote in the midterms is a good way to go, maybe Trump has some kind of justice plot brewing behind the scenes, but I'm not placing all my chips on that

2018-01-15 00:40:39 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

maybe we could shill tax reform to moderates, and it could work, not 100% on that though

2018-01-15 00:41:07 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

yeah it seems like a done and over story, Jim made his last video on it

2018-01-15 00:42:05 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

the debates w/ spencer and sargon are a lot more fresh in terms of eceleb stuff than the kraut story

2018-01-15 00:42:14 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

lemme get on the thread real quicl

2018-01-15 00:42:57 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

that's the nature of /pol/ I guess

2018-01-15 00:43:41 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

no one complains about any of the threads except for ours

2018-01-15 00:44:33 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

it's just so fucking unproductive that it's insane

2018-01-15 00:45:46 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

you'd think that with the amount of shit that gets plastered on this website on a minute to minute basis that no one would have any qualms about a thread dedicated to getting people elected

2018-01-15 00:46:36 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

these people live in a fantasy if they think their little turner diaries race war bullshit will ever fucking happen

2018-01-15 00:46:58 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

if we want to get results, we do it with politics

2018-01-15 00:50:36 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

eh, that'd be much more productive than what we have atm

2018-01-15 00:50:59 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I just can't get past the amount of pure garbage there is just every second

2018-01-15 00:52:11 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I used to go there daily because there was nowhere else I'd have this kind of info, but it's just depressing going in there on a common basis because of all the trash

2018-01-15 00:53:10 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

not a big 8chan guy, I haven't really considered it

2018-01-15 00:54:23 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I know they are when it comes to lefty/pol/

2018-01-15 00:57:29 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

the excuses the shills use on the threads are pathetic

2018-01-15 00:57:51 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

>this isn't for activism it's for lulz xDDDDD

2018-01-15 00:58:14 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

it's like they want society to continue degrading

2018-01-15 01:01:14 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

why do so many people on the alt lite and on /pol/ talk about Austin Petersen

2018-01-15 01:01:37 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

open borders is never someone to vote for

2018-01-15 01:02:21 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

aye and after she gets blumpf and fence impeached she'll be president

2018-01-15 01:02:30 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

5d backgammon

2018-01-15 01:03:38 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

well, I'm gonna go for a while ok

2018-01-15 01:49:41 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

why would anyone bar a complete fucking psychopath want that to happen

2018-01-15 01:49:58 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I'd rather have my ethnostate done by policy

2018-01-15 01:50:25 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

okay, so you ruin every country on earth, then a civil war happens

2018-01-15 01:50:39 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

don't these people consider the possibility of losing?

2018-01-15 01:50:55 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

then white genocide would happen and sooner than they think

2018-01-15 01:51:46 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

it's just incomprehensible how schizophrenic some of these people are

2018-01-15 01:53:11 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I mean, that's not always going to end well, if you overdo it, then it's over

2018-01-15 01:53:27 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

look at South Africa ffs

2018-01-15 01:55:44 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

a lot of people on /pol/ think we'll balkanize

2018-01-15 01:55:55 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

they just don't get the American character

2018-01-15 01:56:09 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I like this place, I want to make it better

2018-01-15 01:56:39 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Jesus, these people actually do think this is the Turner Diaries

2018-01-15 01:56:49 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

holy shit

2018-01-15 01:58:38 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

they don't get pragmatism and getting to where you want to be steadily

2018-01-15 01:59:27 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I mean, if it comes to having the guns taken, I'll fight, but I'm not going to fucking cross my fingers for it

2018-01-15 02:00:20 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

@Snickers yeah, there's a nugget of truth in it, but the thing is a lot of them go way too far with it

2018-01-15 02:01:00 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

someone like Jared Taylor is much more appealing than this accelerationist idiocy

2018-01-15 02:03:40 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I'm pushing to make the demographics better too, I'm not blind, but as for ethnostates where there's strict rules for who is allowed to stay and who gets deported isn't going to realistically happen

2018-01-15 02:04:26 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I'd say pushing family values back onto families, and having an immigration system similar to pre-'65 is how I'd put us back on track

2018-01-15 02:07:44 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

the media doesn't care about democracy and making voters informed

2018-01-15 02:08:25 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

they're in cahoots with a lot of them, wikileaks showed this

2018-01-15 02:11:14 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

if it happens, but not to make it happen deliberately

2018-01-15 02:11:31 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

there's better ways of going at it

2018-01-15 02:12:25 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

if we had better margins in the house and senate, we'd have a) a wall b) a better immigration policy, literally fixes the country in generations

2018-01-15 02:13:45 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I just can't figure out why anyone would want this kind of shit unless you do nothing but sit and watch gladiator movies your whole life

2018-01-15 02:13:56 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

it's so cartoony

2018-01-15 02:16:40 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

lmao didn't her dad say the lampshades were something of history or something of that effect?

2018-01-15 02:17:27 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

you've got to be pragmatic, that's how you do it

2018-01-15 02:17:51 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

there's multiple ways you can bring the country back to our favor, not just by setting it on fire

2018-01-15 02:18:28 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

that's like social keynesianism

2018-01-15 02:19:08 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

exactly

2018-01-15 02:19:18 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

RAISE can fix so much shit

2018-01-15 02:20:20 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

more people can look at debates for this kind of stuff which I see on Warski all the time

2018-01-15 02:20:56 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Trump definitely wants more European immigration, he talked about it on the campaign trail and he reaffirmed it during the daca talks

2018-01-15 02:22:11 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

if someone charismatic could make these kinds of arguments in politics, we could make something work.

2018-01-15 02:23:02 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

There's a lot of young faces on the right, and it's definitely not for any gay classical liberalism or liberalist nonsense

2018-01-15 02:24:13 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I see a lot of these debates on it, and the comments always see the sense in maintaining the european nature of the US

2018-01-15 02:25:28 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I have no doubt that Europe will fix itself at some point, the thing is about the immigrants over there are mostly opportunistic economic migrants who don't stay if they don't get anything

2018-01-15 02:25:57 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I remember a story about Denmark where they slashed benefits for migrants and then in a single night, 40000 people left the country

2018-01-15 02:28:51 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I can see that sort of argument made for a lot of areas, but I also see parties like the AfD in Germany making a lot of gains and feeling at least a bit of hope for them

2018-01-15 02:29:06 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

it's a tough thing

2018-01-15 02:29:50 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

the accelerationism meme may manifest over there, I hope they get unfucked before it comes to that, but I'm not quite sure

2018-01-15 02:30:21 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

point being, the migrants there would go back to their countries if they had no social net

2018-01-15 02:31:07 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I'm not really thinking too far in that direction, but I'd say that cutting welfare for immigrants could solve the problem easily

2018-01-15 02:32:19 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

it's like you look at Poland, there's no immigrants there even though it's in the Schengen area, the reason? Economic migrants want money.

2018-01-15 02:33:23 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I believe eventually what would happen is that there would be a lot of nations over there which obtain governments similar to the one Austria has, and after that, migrants would have an exodus back to their homelands

2018-01-15 02:34:05 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

if there's no free ride, there's no point in staying, I'd rather be living in a homeland which speaks my language, which there's plenty of in the Middle-East

2018-01-15 02:35:48 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I mean, put yourself in their shoes. You speak Arabic, you go to Europe because they don't offer dental in Turkey or Jordan. You live an easy life, then the government takes away your incentive. Why wouldn't you go back? Wouldn't you much rather be in a country which speaks your language than which doesn't?

2018-01-15 02:37:06 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I seriously doubt that 90% are there because they legitimately want to do the Islamic world domination stuff.

2018-01-15 02:38:04 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

It's much more realistic that a person wants to live comfortably. Occam's razor.

2018-01-15 02:46:31 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

looks like a good analysis

2018-01-15 02:47:06 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

the amount of beige states is very whitepilling

2018-01-15 02:48:00 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I like the fact it includes a candidate next to it

2018-01-15 02:48:18 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

is this the bookmakers analysis?

2018-01-15 02:48:44 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

sauce would be pretty good

2018-01-15 02:49:54 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

IMO Wisconsin is pretty winnable

2018-01-15 02:51:52 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

based on this we should expect 54/55 senators on our side?

2018-01-15 02:52:06 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

that's very good

2018-01-15 02:53:01 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

that's about the margin we have in the house

2018-01-15 02:54:12 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

wouldn't be too certain about that

2018-01-15 02:54:48 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

I'd put our cap at 59

2018-01-15 02:56:53 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

what is the sauce btw

2018-01-15 02:58:11 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

ah ok

2018-01-15 02:59:02 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

it's probably better than most polls

2018-01-15 02:59:28 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

the betting percentages had to come from somewhere though, right?

2018-01-15 03:06:29 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

+3.6% in the last week

2018-01-15 03:06:32 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

so that's good

2018-01-15 03:11:15 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

good night guys

2018-01-15 14:32:41 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

yeah

2018-01-15 14:33:23 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

probably would be the best chance of getting that seat in a state that is extremely blue

2018-01-16 00:27:51 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

So I've researched and found some projections for the house that are fairly whitepilling

2018-01-16 00:28:13 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

they're from fairvote, a pretty accurate firm from what I've found

2018-01-16 00:30:08 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

basically, the high confidence projections they have (which from past analyses they've accurately predicted 99.7% of, so it's extremely likely they'll get all of them right bar one or two at most) has 205 R seats and 163 D seats

2018-01-16 00:31:05 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

this gives a field of about 63 seats in competition

2018-01-16 00:32:20 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

218 seats are needed to have a majority, meaning Rs would need to grab at least 13 seats out of the 63 in play in order to keep the house

2018-01-16 00:32:51 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

obviously we want much more than this for legislative purposes, but this effectively prevents any impeachment attempts

2018-01-16 00:34:37 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Now, if there's a 2006-esque "blue wave" with a similar makeup to that year, w/ 54% dems and 46% Rs, that still gives Rs a majority of 226 seats, at least according to FairVote

2018-01-16 00:35:55 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

this is about 52% of the House of Representatives which would be Republican, or to give a frame of reference, about the same margin that we had in the senate before Moore's loss

2018-01-16 00:37:46 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

Not good in my opinion, but not apocalyptic. I think the average House Republican is much more on Trump's side than the average House Democrat (anecdotal, but still my opinion), so Trump would still be able to get some good bills in I assume.

2018-01-16 00:38:01 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

yeah, damn

2018-01-16 00:38:37 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

btw don't let these results get you delusional or anything

2018-01-16 00:39:38 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

for all I know, the dems could get a ton more seats than what's considered the "blue wave" in that scenario.

2018-01-16 00:44:37 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

our goals this year are to:
a) maintain the margins in the House, as they're decent at getting legislation passed even with Cuck Ryan.
b) increase the margins in the Senate, as they're the ones effectively blocking legislation from getting passed with a couple Senators
c) maybe get Ryan unseated, as he is a poison pill for Trump's agenda.
The cucks in the senate are already retiring, so we'd also need to make sure to prevent Romney from getting office in Utah.

2018-01-16 00:47:54 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

gotta go, anyways.

2018-01-17 00:13:46 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

they could end up being a very good metric for the federal elections

2018-01-17 00:14:04 UTC [Red Storm #midterms-discussions]  

are there any results yet?

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