Now you're sitting in jail, just going off.

I think you're being defensive for being called out on bad behavior.

I told you this isn't the place nor procedure.

We're honestly probably both in the wrong.

No, it's mostly you.

Ok.

glad we agree.

Then yes, let's get the whole board on this.

I'm done talking with you.

Ok. cya.

@Deleted User you are in jail for 24 hours, this was your second time being caught calling or joking about violence.

The first time was May 23rd of this year.

@ThisIsChris I deleted the second post within seconds of posting it, it was an honest mistake. I removed the comment myself. I don't mind being punished for what I did (and I don't expect mercy of any kind), it was wrong. I just thought it would go by unpunished because it was deleted by me personally. I didn't leave it up because I realized that I broke the rules after typing it, not before. I have an edgy sense of humor, and I forgot what server I was in. Sitting in here for 24hrs isn't awful, I just want you guys to know that I'm honestly and truthfully sorry and I want to follow the rules.

@ThisIsChris What was the first thing I said btw? Could you DM me the screenshot?

@Deleted User I hear you, and sure.

sent

@ThisIsChris Thanks for hearing me brother. I'll keep out of general during firesides to avoid situations like this in the future. I tend to get into trouble with all of the energy firesides bring. Once again, I'm sincerely sorry.

@Deleted User I appreciate your understanding that we take the rules seriously.

Thanks for the DM. Every rule has it's reason. Rules aren't just made to be a hindrance. I understand why you did what you did and it's totally on me. @ThisIsChris

Thanks, Wurdiz. Appreciate your understanding. We have to be vigilant on that sort of chit chat for numerous reasons.

Thanks for being understanding, Wurdiz. We'll keep you away from gen pop while you're in here. Maybe give you some extra rations.

@Deleted User it's been 48 hours kiddo

Hey Bro, I Saw Your Post, Very Based, and Red Pilled as Well, Keep It Up Bro.

Want to make it a week? @Deleted User

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🤔 go for it

Okay 1 week each

Hey Bro, I Saw Your Post, Very Based, and Red Pilled as Well, Keep It Up Bro.

make it a month big guy

Okay off of the server

<@477290792365588483> Really? Threatening the life of a politician? Are you trying to get us raided by the feds? You will stay here for a week.

@The Soy Goy @johnnyc Gentlemen, last night I witnessed behavior well beyond the scope of IE afterhours shitposting. Between the two of you, I observed "HH", variants of a word beginning with the letter "N", and attempts at synchronized chain posts also beginning with the letter "N". This behavior undermines our efforts to bring about a better future for our people. A very disappointing show of energies which would be better spent on self-improvement or advancing IE's interests.

@Argument of Perigee why did you wait until the day after you supposedly saw all this to jail us? I never posted HH or tried to spell nigger in the chat. There were like 5 other mods and coordinators and even Patrick on yesterday, do you really think if we were acting that out of line that no one would have stopped us then?

I never recieved any warnings from mods either in dms or in the chat and the examples you provided just didn't happen so I'm confused why we were retroactively put in jail when at the time we weren't doing anything that even merited a warning.

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I observed it all last night. Lying will get you nowhere. I chose to handle it this morning.

I'm not lying, I'm asking you why you didn't do anything as this was supposedly happening

I didn't do anything you're accusing me of, you can go see for yourself

Gentlemen, you know what was posted. As well, I am currently going through and cleaning up numerous posts from the Richard Spencer discussion, of which several are yours - @The Soy Goy - sexually explicit in nature, accusatory, obscene, and just plain rude. I'm adding a week to your jail time on top of what @Argument of Perigee has given you.

Aight cool, richard spencer is a faggot tho and as I've already said Patrick saw that conversation himself and didn't feel the need to comment on it

If you disagree with my decision on this, or @Argument of Perigee 's decision, I recommend you take it up further with your coordinators or the board.

Also @Argument of Perigee didn't even give us a time lmao, am I to assume its 2 weeks?

Yes, 2 weeks total.

Thanks chief

1 for me?

I'm still looking through all the posts, I will update you @johnnyc if I find the same behavior.

Gotcha

@Phillip Wiglesworth - FL which coordinator should I talk to? John O is probably the closest one to me

I'd rather not waste Patrick's or Matt's time with this tedious nonsense

@The Soy Goy just hang tight, I will have someone, (probably Matthias given his familiarity with some of your previous issues with moderation) reach out to you.

Thank you, Ian.

@Albo Greychak - MI You have been jailed for 24 hours for rude, disrespectful commentary about the deceased, even after announcement warning was clearly made by Admin.

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@johnnyc still 1 week, it appears.

Very based

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Can someone please relay my condolences to the gamer race?

You will need to wait until your jail time is up. Having other people post messages for you in the server is circumventing the punishment for violating server rules and org policies.

This is a vital message tho

Also what rule is that just wondering?

The "moderator is making a judgement call to ensure fair and impartial enforcement of the rules, including those in jail for violating the rules" rule.

This is anything but impartial

But whatever bro, enjoy flexing the green name

You are in jail. You have had your posting privileges suspended for gross violations of the server rules. Having other people post messages on your behalf would be circumventing your punishment. I'm sorry you don't think that is fair, but it is.

I'm in jail for something you retroactively decided was an offense, and I'm just making a joke

You clearly don't understand the suffering of the gamer victims of this latest tragedy

In all the time we're spending disagreeing about rules, why don't we ask ourselves, "What's the most valuable use of my time, *right now?*"

How can I help the organization get to the next level, *right now?*

Well I can't do much in here that's for sure

What small contribution can I make to better our situation?

And also I'm fairly certain saying "Richard Spencer is big gay" isn't a "gross violation of server rules"

I could be interviewing people right now but it's too bad that I made fun of a dead neocon which caused thousands of Americans to die for a foreign lobby.

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I'm an interviewer as well, I suppose I could take a couple once I get back from the pool. Would that work?

Not much value can be added in the channels besides encouraging others and helping them understand how to maintain and develop a good culture within the organization. I strongly criticized McCain too but did it in a way that didn't make fun of the fact he was dead or call him names. I realize you didn't make fun of the fact he was dead and probably didn't think that calling him gay would land you in here for 24-hours, but it's just a day.

I can't think of a worse culture than what happens in IE general on a daily basis

I can't see it right now but I'd be willing to bet you 100 dollars that its something about rune magick or the kabbalah

Don't think there's anything to be gained from this bro.

When any group discussion is not purposefully led toward productivity, goal achievement and enthusiasm, it goes where anyone wants to push it.

I've been in this organization almost since Berkeley in 2017, it's never been like this

You're trying to lecture me with this weird cult speak about productivity and goal achievement, it's just bizarre bro

That's why membership development is very important. We have two primary goals as a group. (1) To grow our network with high quality people that want to become the best version of themselves. (2) to make the advocacy of our issues as easy as possible.

If we want to have this strictly curated culture then why do we have IE general in the first place. It constantly degrades into dumb shit like this and it just gives an excuse to keep people on their ass in front of the computer

A lot of things have changed, Lincoln. But every change has been for positive and productive reasons and goals. I've been around for over a year, too, and am proud of the direction the org has taken on numerous issues.

Cult speak? What are you even talking about? I am saying that if we want a better organization with better discussion, one that is meeting goals and growing, it's going to take a collective commitment. Everything we've achieved thus far has been because a group of people decided to coordinate their efforts toward common objectives.

If you want to truly be productive why wouldn't you just encourage an active movement where people come out and see each other face to face

Shitposting in jail is a bad look, Lincoln. If you feel you were unjustly placed in here then send me a message.

I didn't want to waste your time, I'm sure you have much more important things to do than deal with this

Well, now I’m forced to deal with this.

No more talking in here for now, @everyone.

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@Zyzz @Caboose Both of you are jailed for 24 hours. That is completely unbecoming of IE members. Fighting in General, either jokingly or serious is not okay.

I want to apologize to @Zyzz for being a dick, I was just clowning that’s all didn’t mean to really piss you off

i am sick and tired of hearing shit in hear about italians not being white

@Caboose nah dude im still going to fuck your shit up

@Zyzz Keep it up and you're off the server. I don't want to have to separate you further.

No one will be “fucking up” anyone’s “shit” lads.

ok we'll see

The black cooks at my work were right though, jail isn’t so bad after all

@Albo Greychak - MI hey I have friends in jail too this is gonna be a breeze