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ie not chineese steel
a girl like MissAlice or KateeLife are fucking destroyed from birth
they literally cannot go anywhere without people offering them everything
there is no realistic way taht they can grow up as normal people
other than their fathers isolating them from the world
or there existing an aristocracy of affluent men that are at the same sexual market value as them that whisks them away(edited)
otherwise they just are totally destroyed
it's an extremely disgenic system
so we either need middle age tier patriarchy
or aristocracy
and I'd choose aristocracy, though patriarchy has more longevity
but tbh I'm gunna be in the aristocracy so I might be biased
I started thinking about this because Salty said "I hate hte idea of aristocracy because I am blue collar"
and I thought "well hey bud don't get ahead of yourself let's think about this for a second and not be biased"
aristocracy is de facto ruling class with power over regions
barons, counts, etc
we have gold calf tier aristocracy
in the form of celebrities, who really actualy have no power and can't enforce anything except through meme magic
also these celebrity aristocrats are way different from aristocrats of the past
since they're global aristocrats, they have no attatchment to their local area, whereas in the past aristocrats were bound to the land and interacted with a small county
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on a totally unrelated note
I was once told on /pol/ that natsoc is overly idealistic and not practical
but it's silly because the /pol/ alternative is ancap
I think that ancap is the most idealistic, and natsoc is hte most pragmatic
after all there has never been an ancap society, but the only natsoc society went from the poorest nation in the world to almost conquering every nation on earth simultaneously in eight years
protip: they would have easily done it if they hadn't been unlucky
1. Japan went full retard without consulting germany
2. The electromagnetic naval mine was about to be deployed in the english channel by the germans but an airplane transporting the prototype was shot down and england caught wind of how it worked
How do you know you'd be part of the elite in an aristocratic society when you're likely not part of the current one ? Do you just envision the value structures being different, and in what way ?
That's my vision. Aristocrats uphold Neo-Victorian values because they feel that it sets them above the commoner. The commoner, in turn, naturally follows the lead of the Aristocracy.
@Pathos - NY nah I meant I'll be an aristocrat because I am going to make a lot of money and I will need to wear nice clothes most of the time
that puts me in the aristocracy in my book, white collar instead of blue collar
@Nikephoros nah you've got it wrong
people follow aristocrats because if they don't they get killed
true aristocrats that is
at least that's historical precedent
I'd be interested to know what the historical analogue is
but I don't think it's simply along white / blue collar lines
I almost feel like anyone in STEM in modern times is already out of the running
like my vision of the modern equivalent are the connecticut families who send 2 douchebag kids to play lax at duke, get econ / business degrees, then work in investment banking
the type of money and status they have is ( like it or not ) on an entirely different level from somebody who works at google for 20 years
good effortpost
thanks
@Pathos - NY Hey bro. I played rugby and didn't go to Duke.
Lol
I played rugby and didn't go to Duke either. #fratlivesmatter
> lax
Even AnonCon is getting sick of kike shit
ipv4 is a fucking meme
ipv6 master race
lol
you misunderstand
I'm not saying live and let live
I'm saying hold your fire for now
I would like to see a day sometime in the future where Woes is told to drop the homo apology stuff or face consequences.
but that's in like
10 years or more
at the moment I would be willing to ally with Hotep or Commies or literally anyone that is anti globalist and anti immigration
What i meant by the sword analogy was
some guy who comes up to me and says "Gee whizz convo, you're sure not creating an IMPERIVM EVROPA by allying with communists."
is equivalent to a guy saying
"Gee whizz, why are you cutting your 700lb slab of metal? You should sharpen it so it can be closer to your ideal IMMEDIATELY."
"put a handle on the 700lb piece of metal, that way it will IMMEDIATELY be like a sword"
this is a hypothetical though
I do not foresee any situation where I might want to ally with a communist
but if there was a situation I would take it up in a heartbeat, we're fighting for not only our survival but the existance of order and life in the universe
Yeah. I agree.
I guess I was shifting to a more ideal future time in which our people were already strong again. Even then someone will occasionally be born with a physical defect or something. And at that point, it I think it might be wise to use a case by case strategy. For instance, maybe there's a guy born with a gimp arm, but is a badass still with only one arm, then he's probably making the group as a whole better off and maybe should not be kicked out. That said, there are probably things which can get someone booted regardless of their otherwise good qualities, for instance committing unsanctioned violence against another member of the tribe.
not mine but pretty good
"libruls r da REAL warmongers" is babby's first redpill
they're retards that believe what they're told because they get cummies if they do
What I think is interesting is the discussion on whether there is a "ghost in the machine" orchestrating all of this for some sort of goal
or whether it's just a bunch of jews kvetching forever with no logic or goal, and they will jew themselves over and end all life in the universe because they're too jewish to realize what they're doing.
I think its a mix of both kvetching and goals
ORDODOGGS
good effortpost
Thanks! I worked really hard on it
"Then during my civic nationalist phase when I was becoming interested in Governance structures I recognized there was something that the American constitution was lacking, that being there is no head and thus no assurance of the veracity of your legal system. The united states legislative system lacked something identified by the Holy Roman Emperor Henry VI when he established a modern state in Sicily with a normative and legislative body, which relied upon Roman law, as opposed to canon law which presented him with a problem, who governs the magistrates? Since in the US and eventually all democratically governed judiciaries Judges, rather than obeying and upholding precedent and taking a traditional interpretation of the law they will eventually be vulnerable to corruption and selective interpretation of legislation to the point where the legislative branch might as well not exist at all as the judicial branch is effectively and functionally sovereign. The only way of avoiding this is to have the hereditary element at the head of your state for their anti corruption element, managing the veracity of the judiciary is a traditional responsibility and seems to be the only method geared towards the judiciary performing the function they are ...
intended to perform. Sicily had a loose legal precedence of primarily byzantine origin with some Norman centralization and Henry created a legal system of weights and balances like the american system. However in order to maintain the traditional interpretation of the constitution he made the Judicial branch of government subservient to the crown, thereby maintaining the veracity of the judicial system as the monarch had no incentive to corrupt his own legal system and remove his subjects access to justice and he could even be trusted to appoint a deputy to ensure the validity of the judiciary and his deputy would be subservient to the monarch in much the same way a chairman owner can appoint a CEO to run day to day affairs with minimal oversight, the point is the competent and meritocratically appointed position of CEO can never do the same job as the owner, the owner must ensure the work of the CEO, whoโs descendants will never inherit their position, is being done; the CEO canโt do this themselves, and has no natural incentive to do so. A CEO has the incentive to go to board meetings due to his salary but the owner/shareholders must keep him in line and ensure his work is done; this is because they either nominally or substantively believe the business to be theirs because they own it and any vicissitudes of the business are felt by them personally. Weather or not the monarchy is limited, civil or absolute a monarch is either nominally or substantively the owner of the country, weather or not you wish to denote them with that honour in name or a first among equals policy to the monarch the principle is the same." - รlle Sussex, Forum anlgorum media
BEGOME CADOLICC:DDDD @Nikephoros
@Koba BEGOME MARYLUND xDDD
Have you read "The Nigger Question"? It's a great essay by Thomas Carlyle
what server is this in?
Common Filth
skeletonkang is obnoxious
how can you save the white race if you accelerate white genocide?
@Campin' Carl I think the CF critique raises a few fundamental questions to consider.
The first one that comes to mind is rooted in the Collectivist ethos vs. Individualist ethos.
If we accept CF's observations as valid and agree that these are, in fact, negative traits, then it becomes very difficult to reconcile the bad apples within a Collectivist framework.
Assuming that our ideology is rooted in a Collectivist ethos, the only way to maintain ideological "purity" when addressing the "bad apples" is to establish a narrower definition of our collective and who its constituents include.
I think that most people who try to address this issue typically opt for this "maintain ideological purity" approach. As of now, the debate over what definition is best is still on-going; in the meantime, everyone usually sticks with broad default of "White Gentiles".
https://radio.therightstuff.biz/2017/03/28/exodus-americanus-59-fair-use-tactical-assault-doge/
This seemed like an appropriate place for this.
@Roscoe Living in 2017 and not listening to ExAmericanus the day it comes out=SMDHFAMYBITO
Shiggity, fam.
Assault Doge lol
@YUGE save me from brad plz
What is a good policy on the WQ?
I was in the gym and I saw an attractive girl, and later I saw her with a nu-male looking guy.
I personally think that it is objectionable to try and get into a relationship with a girl who is already spoken for.
This is because I've been cheated on in the past.
However, I know for a fact that I am now a better person after having been cheated on, and I know for a fact that I would be a better influence on the attractive girl than the nu-male guy is.
Doctor Mayhem need not respond.
Unless you talk to her you don't even know if random guy is actually her bf
no he was
i simplified the story
but I'm talking about in general here
White Shariah is a meme but MGTOW is a joke
there has to be a reasonable middleground
My middle ground would be still talking to her and waiting until she inevitably leaves metroboy and then you can hook up
>hook up
>not hold hands
wwe tlc is the only acceptable punishment for thottism
/effortpost
**SERIOUS QUESTION: HOW SAFE IS VAPING?**
I swear its worse for you than smoking
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