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nah I am not a doos @Meerkat_RSA
BTW i wonder when dusty will make a comeback๐
Saw her on the discord in the list, think she's already back
Explaining the ๐
Oh lol...
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For each their own. I would not equate it to Hoer as it is a for a good cause in general although I do get how it can fit. Making a selfie vid of some statement and posting it online no matter what the topic has an element of Hoer to it...but that is just me
@Renaldo making a video to further stir this wont do any good imo. Wait for a video from them and rather do a response. Or just discuss it in the live stream.
See principles have been sold out, i can see the connection to a prozzi selling out to get ahead.. It's rather fitting, and intended to encourage them not to sell out just to get ahead.
@Apollo kom join ons
NOU JOU DOM FOK EK BANK NIE SKOOL VIR FOKKEN NIKS NIE SO KOM
Taxi drivers shooting each other in summerstrand apparently
xD lol
wanna see that
jk
i have to see that
So stay out of Summerstrand, Taxi drivers who striking are shooting at ones who are riding
lol thats fucked
this?
Shiiiet
Why do we tolerate these degenerates again?
The lawless ones committing the crime?
Taxi drivers who destroy property who else?
literally nobody
@Darkseid who else? The one's supposed to be taking the responsibility of enforcing the law... If they aren't doing much to stop it, then they are part of the problem regarding degeneratuon... How i see it.
Morning everyone, the response from Renaldo was to be expected. He doesn't get that his video on #BlackMonday was what set me and many others on the path we are currently on. I will make an official response but I'm afraid it will make him look even worse, many people missed a vital statement made in parliament in the days following BlackMonday and the videos are there for anyone to see/make up their own minds.
To all the snipes in this server, don't worry, I'll be pasting this his his server. @Renaldo, the video is not about you, you just happened to be the person with the best quality video that echoed the "sit down and shut up, nobody cares" narrative.
People wore black to create awareness... it did. You said it would be a waste of time... it wasn't. Thank God nobody listened to you.
I suggest you leave Anarchy Acres and Fatal Fields for a while and go visit an actual farm, stay over for a few days, experience the constant tension and then we can have a proper conversation.
@Billy Chiltong you are spreading fake news, in that same video I said action speaks louder than words. You say the video is not about me but the majority of it features me and my words. To illustrate my point on that it didn't serve it's purpose this year more farm murders took place than last year. If those people became donors or even donated their time to help patrolling it would be something to talk about and praise, unfortunately this didn't happen. Also your entire video is based on the premise that Black Monday CAUSED Donald Trump to tweet about RSA etc... most of the examples you used was because of Ernst visit to the USA and because of EWC. Your video is a weak attempt at not only discrediting me but also to spread fake news.
Most importantly, I have had family members attacked on a farm, and my mother lives woman alone on a farm... so please don't come and preach to me about visiting farms... I go every 2 weeks to visit my mother.
@Rendier think you missing the point, he says it set him and others on the path to doing what they do that eventually amounted to the results of today. Can't dictate that, i don't think it's wise to dictate what inspires people though, so perhaps not a good idea to argue against it. Just a caution.
@Billy Chiltong you guys are spinning @Rendier words to fit your own fucking agenda . so go and fuck yourself if you are going to spin his words again , he said that the black monday thing wouldnt do shit , and it didnt do shit so now you spinning it sothat it seems that @Rendier doesnt care about the murders , yes he does , he just thinks that all murder in south africa is a problem just not just white murder
Wait a minute here!!!!! Renaldo is married?๐ฎ To a woman?!?!?!๐ต
I also find it ironic how your whole campaign has moved from videos by affected parties towards bashing Renaldo for what he said by taking a 10 minute video and using 30 seconds of it. It looks like you are building this entire campaign around me... instead of Willem, Rene and Daan
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lol rene is irrelevent
she hot tho
The mood currently = How can we promote BoerTestimony?!? Yeah let's use a video of Renaldo and then add events that was caused by EWC and blame him.
Was the Rene that commented in the live chat on @Rendier s chat, the real Rene (Willem)?
yup it was her
Ok, because if it is the one I am thinking of I lost the respect I had. She made some childish insults aimed at you
reno join general chat
Yeah I was also shocked at her statements
I only watched the replay so couldnt comment but for some reason no one took her on. Made me think maybe it is a fake account and not her. Or people just dont want to take on her pretty face.
@Darkseid lol good meme
renaldo fortnite with me?
@AndeB ek sou saam speel. Maar Android se fortnite is nog in Beta
ja soos jy OHHHHHHH!
jk
eks net alpha as fuck
xD jk weert
weer
@Meerkat_RSA Its a free game..or can't the pc handle it?
(reads @AndeB 's messages with a Afrikaanse boy accent)
Tripple Bonus Fact, BlackMonday was very much supported by Afriforum:
What started out as a plea from a close friend of a farmer recently killed in Klapmuts, outside Cape Town, for South Africans to wear black on Monday, to show they have had enough of the scourge of farm murders turned into a racially charged debate which played itself out on social media and other platforms.
Chris Loubserโs video that went viral depicted his heartbreak after Joubert Conradie, a 47-year-old wine farmer, was killed by armed robbers just hours before South Africaโs annual crime statistics were released.
Dubbed #BlackMonday, the protest gained support from AfriForum, a civil rights group, agricultural unions, and the Cape Chamber of Commerce and Industry, and political parties, among others.
Highways were blocked off across the country as farmers used their lorries, trucks and tractors to force a glo slow for motorists in a bid to have their pleas heard.
Placards reading โ Stop Farm Murders, Staan op teen plaasmoorder (stand up against farm murders, and even crosses bearing the words โRest in Peaceโ were carried as thousands raised their alarm.
xD
These protests have been mirrored by many abroad, this is where it started.
laurynne tell the dumb fuck
@Stefan - I didn't see what she said. Can you give me the
details
@Stefan send screenshots of her comments i need them for research purposes and memes
@Billy Chiltong fun fact: saying that all murders should stop. Also includes farm murders.
@luarynne ill have to think which live stream it was. It was about 3 weeks ago will see if I can find it. Might take a while...
So you just emphasised the fact that Afriforum supporting black monday gave the whole movement traction....
No worries. I am so sick of this infighting.
@Billy Chiltong why do you think that the loss of a boer is worse than a loss of a black individual?
Aren't we all... @Laurynne Gouws
Mense krap rond en soek vir kak
@Billy Chiltong Here's the facts related to your video in the order in which it appeared...
1. Willem on Jessie Lee Peterson - Due to his Trump Video
2. Danie on Jessie Lee Peterson - Due to his #BoerTestimony Video
3. Rene on Media Outlet - Due to her #BoerTestimony Video
4. Ernst Roets on Tucker Carlson - Afriforum visiting the USA on behalf of their members
5. EU talk on RSA - Small part of it was on Farm Murders, not related to Black Monday
6. Lauren Southern on Youtube - Nothing to do with Black Monday
7. Donald Trump Tweet - DUE TO EWC statements
8. Peter Dutton action - Due to EWC statements
9. Joe Rogan - Due to ANC policy and EWC
So tell me again how Black Monday DIRECTLY lead to the examples you used... saying it played a part is all good and well but your video made it out to be a DIRECT cause... which even you know is bullshit
Hey this is actually good.
Debating
@AndeB hard to respond to a straw man, not a statement I've ever made but let me guess, you somehow believe you can read people's minds...
@Darkseid volks verraaier or ras verraaier... I've never heard the race traitor accusation to be honest. If you have anything, id like to see it
@Billy Chiltong straw man? wtf is a straw man? but in anyway why dont you advocate for all murders if you really dont think that white murder is worse than a black murder?
I dunno who claimed it's direct, it's indirect, hence inspiration that set it off...
@renaldo
PS: Listen to the last 10 seconds of the video, that should give you your answer.
Butterfly flaps its wings, becomes a hurricane and such.
@Sheamus watch the video Chilting made on Twitter... he doesn't mention EWC, Boer Testimony etc... he JUST mentions Black Monday
This guy explains farm murders pretty well
https://youtu.be/JU4m8hkf-O0?t=1445
At the timestamp
@Sheamus Ja it was volks verraaier, still implying a similar thing.
@renaldo, just like Snowflake, Snowball holds some meaning other than just being ice
i dont think that farm murders isnt bad it is fucking bad and it probably is racially motivated but i still think that a loss of a life is one to many
Agreed
@Billy Chiltong counter the points I raised please. Show me how each of the ones I mentioned can DIRECTLY be attributed to Black Monday... you didn't make the claim that it was a snowball effect. You used my video to make it seem as if I was wrong and all the actions that came after was because of Black Monday
@AndeB While I agree... what motivates farm murders is not the same as other crimes...and therefore easier to solve/prevent.
@Rendier I'll watch it lunch time, at work now on the phone... But I'm stating my own observations. I watched how all this unfolded from the day black Monday became such a controversy, and so did the world thanks to the outrage. I still maintain it started there and snowballed.
@Billy Chiltong Can you link the video please?
@Billy Chiltong stop murders: includes 57 people that are killed a day. Including farm murders
Stop farm murdes; Just include farmers
@Sheamus "similar" volk is the people/culture , referring to Afrikaners, the implication is still that Renaldo betrayed his people by doing what exactly?
black monday didnt do shit
It caused shit
@Renaldo, funny how just about everyone else I talked to understood how despite the naysayers, threats from various parties incl. the govt the farming community INCLUDING THEIR WORKERS AND MANY BLACK PEOPLE stood in solidarity to make a spectacle that the world could not ignore. Yes, people still died afterward, we live in the real world and you can't just magically make things stop but it had a real and tangible effect and many. many people all around the world supported it.
@Meerkat_RSA no competent farmers to farm, no food, only the wealthy can afford to until the rand tanks, many starve to death... It's not that white people are important, it's that the trade and their role in feeding the people locally produced foods at affordable rate is a priority.
@Darkseid going against the interests of the people as i understand the claims.
billy join voice chat
wanna debate
@Renaldo, you seem to not grasp that in your own words you said that the world doesn't "give a shit", you were wrong.
GG @Billy Chiltong, you just advanced to level 8!
this isnt working
@Laurynne Gouws it was on @Rendier s 29th August live chat that Rene was on. She still bragged that she is not wasting het time talking to small fry people like Renaldo, because she will be on FOX
@Billy Chiltong trump tweets about fucking everything
@Meerkat_RSA sure, what did his tweet say?
that you are autistic @Billy Chiltong
@Billy Chiltong The world didn't give a shit. Nothing happened afterwards. Everyone went home, washed their black shirts and carried on with their lives. Then EWC happened and the world took note because there are in fact people living all over the globe who stand to lose if it were to go through.
@Billy Chiltong about what. Their are so many tweets
>Caring more about your own credibility than actually focusing on helping your kin.
Fucking pathetic, buddy.
Well this has turned into a shit show...
@AndeB lol my fox
Apollo is a Russian bot confirmed.
No living man can post so many memes
This is exactly what @Billy Chiltong wants... for people to misunderstand my views. You see what reactions your video gets. Why? Because you leave out context.
@Meerkat_RSA yes willem has competition , but i dont cause im alpha as fuck
This is what #BoerTestimony is doing... they are trying to get more support by kakking on someone else. What a cause!
RENDOOS HAHA
They can't create original content so they are using yours
but keep on doing this... eventually I will be forced to respond... a person can only take so much fake news about himself before he retaliates...
@Rendier Perhaps you should have a debate with them all together? Without this highchool style twitter war?
That way both sides can explain yourselves without taking stuff out of context
I will not be providing a platform anymore for people that discredit me every chance they get. I have spent enough time giving free airtime to people
@Rendier best solution is to ignore them, as in, don't talk about them and don't promote them. If you don't engage, then they shouldn't, and if they do, it will be an attack, and that would be observed by the international community to judge.
I will take the SteveHormeyr approach... wonder how I will be criticized for this considering they support him for doing the same to me
@Rendier like father like son๐
@Billy Chiltong - focus on the real enemy. Focus on change. Shut down your video editor, get off your computer and canvas for support. This step of trying to bring down others (who are not against you BTW) to gain traction is just lazy.
Tsek
And while all this bickering is going on people will still be killed yes that includes FARMERS what a shame......
GG @Charlsc03, you just advanced to level 2!
@๐ง๐ถ๐๐๐ ban ons van boer testimony. Maar wil steeds julle goed hier share. Fokof man
This is what I hate about the movement. You guys larp that there is a white genocide taking place, when people oversees see that things are still (relatively) normal. They'll see white Saffers as nothing more than bickering racists. You're turning us into the boy who cried wolf.
@Meerkat_RSA hulle is op die server, en daar is nie 'n reรซl teen dit nie.
I don't claim a genocide is actively ongoing, but i do point out the similarities of events and behavior leading up to other groups that were genocided or attempted...
@Sheamus literally rule number 2. No spamming, advertising or self promotion.
as a farmer in the middle of nowhere in Limpopo with no real security or ability to afford security for my family or farm animals that get killed by snares all the time i find it morally difficult to set up any type of charity/patreon or ask people for help i just cant bring myself to do it.
@Darkseid really? I don't remember that, maybe was updated at some point, i see alot of promotions and advertising though.
I suppose no one really spams though so it isn't annoying
This group is rather relaxed though, not entirely a bad thing, freedom of speech goes a long way to making it enjoyable
@Charlsc03 yeah, I'm not bothered by it, but does come off spammy the way it's pushed out and getting in the way of conversation at times. Though Apolo did remove and repost at times to keep responses together etc. Again I'm not complaining.
@Sheamus Memes are rather a form of discord commentary mixed with comedic relief
I mean as you can see discord seems to get pretty tense...so your boys drop some memes to lower the tension
@Stefan Thanks
GG @Laurynne Gouws, you just advanced to level 1!
Lol i actually like a flowing conversation, much like what we often get into. Wish it could be more productive in that sense @Darkseid
@Sheamus Never going to happen, too many stakeholders in each conversation
Radical left, radical right, radical centrists..
@Rendier i bet it would be way more chilled if we all had 4 degrees (4ยฐ) get it? lol ๐
sorry couldn't resist heehee ๐
Looking forward to the live chat tonight
Me: 4 degrees to the centre of right lol
@Laurynne Gouws Hi Laurynne, are you aware of the international campaigns the ANC ran to garner international support that eventually brought down the Apartheid government? In his video Renaldo clearly states that he does not care what people think of him due to his statements on BlackMonday, is this still his stance? What exactly is the problem now?
International scrutiny would be the best thing that can happen to SA, literally everyone except the corrupt would benefit should the international community start asking questions, it starts with farm murders but ends up with questions like "why exactly is the crime rate so high?" leading to the discussion of poverty which, in turn, turns into "where is the money disappearing to?" "Why were the Komandos (who patrolled and secured the rural/farming communities) disbanded?"
Just like charity starts at home, you start with the issues closest to you, the ones you are most passionate about. Being passionate about one thing does not diminish the importance of the other. I don't condemn people protesting violence against women and children because "all violence is bad".
Perhaps you can afford to go abroad and lobby, I can't. But I appreciate your attempt to dissuade, it encourages and inspires because if "change" means losing the last Afrikaans schools, over 100 race-based labour laws, open discrimination against a minority, the expropriation of property based on the colour of skin and the constant browbeating then I say oppose that "change" and would rather fight for something that benefits ALL of South Africa.
@Billy Chiltong you are clearly very clued up. Why not start a YouTube channel?
the anc did not deserve the international sympathy in the past .
@Billy Chiltong The thing is i am in a Afrikaans school. (It was Afrikaans ande English until 1975 when a English school opened). I am white and Afrikaans and me as an matric learner is the one who get fucked by the law but i still don't blame black people but i blame the anc. I agree race based laws are shit. It is not the fault of the race but the law makers.
the anc terrorists of the people
they are economic terrorist
@Meerkat_RSA Almost like you can't blame people who are too young to have ever voted for Apartheid for the laws that were enacted by a government decades ago?
i can blame people for voting yes in the referendum
especially those who fled the country after realizing what voting yes meant
@Billy Chiltong you can't blame the born free youth for apartheid. You can just blame the apartheid gov. And i think there where a few white people who where against apartheid but didn't speak up. Cuz they might of lost their jobs. I
@Billy Chiltong - We are not lobbying overseas. We are not discouraging you from speaking up or having a cause. I wish more people actually had a backbone in this country. I am saying ... You don't have to try to trample on someone in order to to get above them. If your message is on point, those who hear you will listen. If your voice is a genuine one, then those who hear will believe. You do not have to go about it in a stabbing fashion and try to discredit someone who is strongly against murder - MURDER OF EVERY HUMAN, simply because they ask "Why do you only care about one race?" You don't have to try to attack one branch of the fight just so you can try to prove your fight is more important. Yes. You start with the issues closest to you. To me, that's Renaldo and the fact that you used a cutting from his video from October 2017 and merged it with footage taken over the course of the last few months and and cry "Look this guy is against us and our cause" is the problem. If you want to try to convince me that your video was not an effort to try to discredit Renaldo's voice so your's seems louder and more accurate, then you are failing.
Why make it about race... -sigh-
my mom threatened to divorce my dad if he didnt vote anc in 96 oh the irony
lets vote for a party that will never lose because muh democracy
@Laurynne Gouws "To me, that's Renaldo and the fact that you used a cutting from his video from October 2017 and merged it with footage taken over the course of the last few months and and cry "Look this guy is against us and our cause" is the problem."
You are getting warmer, look how far we've come. Hasn't Renaldo expressed that some of his views/opinions have changed in the past few months? Do you see me attacking you or even being slightly impolite? In fact I respect anyone who stands with his/her significant other, this is the root of the argument I posited. Think about that.
I don't know about you but, "all murder is bad" is the inherent, default and obvious stance of everyone I know and that obviously includes myself.
I could ask you to explain some of your statement but I know that would not be productive. Thank you for a civil interaction, I wish these were the conversations being fed in comments right now.
@Arminus don't forget about the Chinese honey scandal
GG @Meerkat_RSA, you just advanced to level 18!
@Arminus they basically added corn syrup and mass export to US. And later the US develop methods to detect the polum in the honey. And china has a unique flower that is only in china. And thus polun from chineese flower is thus chineese honey
@AndeB and ussr
@AndeB dis n cheap stroop gemaak uit mielies.
@Billy Chiltong - You say: In his video Renaldo clearly states that he does not care what people think of him due to his statements on BlackMonday, is this still his stance? What exactly is the problem now? - To this I say... Yes, BlackMonday was a ineffective farce. For a moment we felt we were strong and that we all stood for something (for many, for once in their lives) and then... Then they went home and watched the footage on social media and TV and felt good about themselves because as a democratic nation we stood for something real. Now? Now we watch the most ridiculous words being spoken on clips and footage and feel outraged. We can't believe the injustice in our country and we cry for the hurt our brothers and sisters go through. Then, you, @Billy Chiltong think to yourself, "You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to put a short clip together because Renaldo is the real enemy of the Boer". That's absurd. Renaldo's views are not against Farmer Murders or Boer Testimony. His view back in October 2017 is exactly what happened. After Black Monday came and went we all forgot. EWC happens and we all remember again. Not because of the success or lingering memories of Black Monday, but because we don't want to lose our homes. We don't want our nation to go to shit. We are realising that enough is enough because it's time we woke up. You clip is an inaccurate representation of what BoerTestimony should be simply because you are fighting against the very force that is fighting alongside you. It shouldn't matter if he wore Black on Black Monday or not. Stick to your script and BoerTestimony will grow. Steer off course as you did in your clip and it becomes propaganda.
@AndeB @Amininus we live in a town with a minority of Muslims. And then we got a fucking halaal pizza hut
@Arminus troll level 100
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@Laurynne Gouws Farce you say? Just strange that if you look at international outlets that reported on it and the events that followed all refer back to BlackMonday. The protests in Australia, Poland and many other countries are direct copies and obviously influenced by the events that took place in SA. It is repressed but you can find people marching with the words STOP PLAASMOORDE all around the world. Just because you haven't seen a thing does not mean it doesn't exist.
You ascribe all sorts of motivations yet he said what he said and I'm happy for him to state his opinion, he was wrong and that's fine. So let me spell it out:
WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE MANNER AND NUMBERS IN WHICH FARMERS ARE BEING MURDERED, SOME SAID THAT PROTESTING WOULD AMOUNT TO NOTHING BUT... THEY WERE WRONG.
Renaldo has on occasion expressed that he will be "on the first flight out" once certain things happen, we don't all have that privilege and excuse me if I and others refuse to go gentle into that good night.
Oh, @Renaldo Dutton was asked and he explicitly said that he was concerned about the amount of farmers being murdered, Trump's tweet instructed Pompeo to look into land seizures AND large scale killings of farmers...
See y'all later, have a good one.
Snowball / butterfly effect... Still stand by it.
@Billy Chiltong Let me just say this before you retreat. I am a part of the core demographic you guys are trying to target. Someone who has the time to share and spread awareness. Someone who leans towards your cause more than, let's say Renaldo does. But honestly, your video gave me a sour taste because you didn't create a powerful video that speaks truth. You created a video that is part truth coupled with manipulation and footage to misguide people into believing in what you want your message to say. Whether I can afford to leave the country or not is moot. Not all my family members can. They will be left behind if we decided to leave. We are not selfish. We care. We speak up and we actively work to spread awareness. Your video dispels the fight Renaldo is standing up for. And whether you agree or not is for your conscious.
"Renaldo has on occasion expressed that he will be "on the first flight out" once certain things happen, we don't all have that privilege and excuse me if I and others refuse to go gentle into that good night."
lmao
Only thing sour about that video was the targeting of Renaldo strictly.. Would have been more epic if it included more prominent nay sayers, because Renaldo wasn't the only one that opposed it. That's my critique.
@Laurynne Gouws "retreat", interesting choice of words.
@Sheamus - We shouldn't be targeting people who inevitably fight for the same cause, maybe just under a different banner. We should be putting out clips of those who strongly call for and disagree farmers are being killed. Using anyone who maybe, might, maybe not agree with you every time is a waste of time. We should be using those who are evil and have evil agendas. My only issue with that video remains that it was done in a way that without a shadow of a doubt leads me to believe that Renaldo was the evil and the rest are the hero's.
@Billy Chiltong - Don't pull your tactics on me. I don't fall for subject changes
@Billy Chiltong Stick to the topic at hand. That's all I'm asking. In this chat and in your videos.
@Laurynne Gouws yes i can agree it looks like a smear campaign, it displays an unhealthy obsession with Renaldo, much like i see the lefts unhealthy obsession with Trump. If the video included a few other sources of nay sayers, it would have been alot more objective and inspirational to prove that shaming tactics shouldn't stop us from succeeding.
Hurricane Florence has got NOTHING on this message board. ๐
Lol
@Laurynne Gouws I'd say that saying goodbye is a, in fact, a tactic... to end a conversation because of loss of interest or(*) other pressing matters. I'd also say that responding to a greeting by referring to it as a "retreat" is also a tactic, just not a nice one. The neurolinguistic implications are obvious, saw it coming though. On changing the subject you lost me, never even thought of changing the subject. But really, nothing more to be said about this and anything more would not be constructive. Cheers, again, have a good day.
Case has been opened against Kessie Nair by an Indian man , still waiting for some people to label all Indians as racist , black twitter here i come
@Darkseid instead of a butterfly flapping it's wings, we would make it Renaldo breathing leads to a shit storm lol
@waHaHa Will be interesting to see the results...White woman got jail time, black man got a fine...where do other POC fall in this regard
@Billy Chiltong Constructive doesn't mean Echo Chamber. I simply don't agree with your method of conveying a message. Especially if it try's to discredit one to uplift another. I will always second guess the BoerTestimony cause from this day forward and you better believe I wont be the only one. So technically your video took your cause back 10 steps. Have a Fabulous day! <- is that a better greeting?
Yeah i can agree with that, becoming a solid echo chamber and this smear campaign is a smear on boer testimony... It makes it look like it's not only whores that sell out their principles. Very sad
Lol yeah it tends to have that effect
@Laurynne Gouws Is a fucking boss...
Definition of Discord
1a : lack of agreement or harmony (as between persons, things, or ideas)
โฆ must we fall into the jabber and babel of discord while victory is still unattained?
โSir Winston Churchill
b : active quarreling or conflict resulting from discord among persons or factions : STRIFE
marital discord
discord between the two parties
I will say this much, Discord app delivers on the definition lol
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@Apollo lol you made a meme of me, I'm flattered and honored to be an inspiration to someone. Lol
Pikaaaa
bitch
I wanted to watch that
Can someone link me the video that @Billy Chiltong
Or whoever made it
Im kinda lost xd
I'll send to you in pvt @WuldGoGayForLauren
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thanks dad
@Apollo Those hoere better get off my Renaldo ;> (Swear to god if they screenshot this It's obviously a joke you sensitive lil bitches)
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Pikaa
` shocks ball blows it up ` @Darkseid
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