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2018-05-01 00:38:53 UTC

GPS is GROUND Positioning System

2018-05-01 00:39:05 UTC

But how do they see you?

2018-05-01 00:39:15 UTC

Is the ground magical?

2018-05-01 00:39:22 UTC

towers

2018-05-01 00:39:24 UTC

Have you ever experienced radio signal loss?

2018-05-01 00:39:27 UTC

why all the towers?

2018-05-01 00:39:43 UTC

🀦

2018-05-01 00:39:53 UTC

if satellites orbit a spherical earth, why all the towers?

2018-05-01 00:39:58 UTC

the satellites for GPS move so fast their clocks slow down enough that the position get bad by about 4 inches a day right?

2018-05-01 00:40:16 UTC

@Pretentieux signal strength

2018-05-01 00:40:17 UTC

that's the string of lies they would have you believe, yes

2018-05-01 00:40:41 UTC

Because your phone doesn't have a strong enough antenna to SEND A READABLE SIGNAL INTO LOW EARTH ORBIT

2018-05-01 00:40:43 UTC

to transmit to space with all the interference requires powerful signals

2018-05-01 00:41:03 UTC

Jesus Christ

2018-05-01 00:41:09 UTC

Can't help us anymore

2018-05-01 00:41:10 UTC

the iridium satellite network phones are still huge bricks

2018-05-01 00:41:18 UTC

lol you are upset because i don't believe in your space fairy tales

2018-05-01 00:41:35 UTC

*space fairytales*

2018-05-01 00:41:50 UTC

I've seen a satellite in a telescope once

2018-05-01 00:42:02 UTC

The positional drift on a non skew-corrected gps signal would be off by roughly 10km in a day's time.

2018-05-01 00:42:16 UTC

You can literally watch Sputnik with the naked eye on a clear night.

2018-05-01 00:42:38 UTC

@Smartyrdom thank you was trying to recall from memory years ago

2018-05-01 00:43:40 UTC

Firstly, my friend

2018-05-01 00:43:53 UTC

That's not what a satellite looks like.

2018-05-01 00:43:56 UTC

I was once told some satellites use pulsars to locate themselves?

2018-05-01 00:44:06 UTC

That's a cartoonist impression of a satellite

2018-05-01 00:44:20 UTC

+20 hoax points

2018-05-01 00:44:25 UTC

Right off the bat

2018-05-01 00:44:35 UTC

looks like atmosphere/weather thing

2018-05-01 00:44:41 UTC

^

2018-05-01 00:45:03 UTC

If I were to venture a guess, atmospheric monitoring equipment

2018-05-01 00:45:35 UTC

But no, this is all part of the Big Globe conspiracy.

2018-05-01 00:45:56 UTC

I had to look the numbers up. I'm actually curious now about maintaining the power requirements on a Rubidium oscillator for the timing, the microprocessing to correct for GR, and the signal RX/TX

2018-05-01 00:47:07 UTC

GPS doesn't receive many signals they mainly transmit location and time

2018-05-01 00:47:17 UTC

Yeah, it looks like an atmospheric monitor to me too.

2018-05-01 00:47:31 UTC

The issue with Flat Earth conspiracies is that you've set yourselves up with a religious sort of infallibility

2018-05-01 00:47:44 UTC

Every counterexample is proof of the conspiracy.

2018-05-01 00:47:51 UTC

but it works both ways

2018-05-01 00:48:04 UTC

how long would flights to Australia be on a flat earth?

2018-05-01 00:48:05 UTC

every example you have proves my point

2018-05-01 00:48:06 UTC

Instead of God's Plan it's "The government is lying"

2018-05-01 00:48:21 UTC

***that's why you're wrong***

2018-05-01 00:48:41 UTC

lol no amount of cute text will make it any different

2018-05-01 00:48:49 UTC

You've violated every principle of objectivism

2018-05-01 00:49:14 UTC

just because you happen to be surrounded by people in your life who also believe the same lies as you does not mean that you are correct

2018-05-01 00:49:35 UTC

It's a closed system. Everything outside the system is just evidence to support it.

2018-05-01 00:49:44 UTC

I'm blanking on the formal term at the moment.

2018-05-01 00:49:50 UTC

You're right! That's a very strong argument agasint Flat Earth conspiracies

2018-05-01 00:49:55 UTC

this is going nowhere but I'm enjoying every second of it

2018-05-01 00:49:56 UTC

@Pretentieux pot-kettle-black

2018-05-01 00:50:07 UTC

Dass raciss

2018-05-01 00:50:16 UTC

@Dawlben what do you know?

2018-05-01 00:50:25 UTC

The people who believe in them are surrounded by the same dogmatic nonsense

2018-05-01 00:50:26 UTC

you know who i am and who i know?

2018-05-01 00:50:41 UTC

@Pretentieux just because you happen to be surrounded by people in your life who also believe the same lies as you does not mean that you are correct

2018-05-01 00:50:52 UTC

but that is wrong!

2018-05-01 00:51:00 UTC

nobody believes me!

2018-05-01 00:51:04 UTC

so you can't do that!

2018-05-01 00:51:07 UTC

HA!

2018-05-01 00:51:18 UTC

You just linked to a half dozen YouTube videos filled with ridiculous nonsense

2018-05-01 00:51:20 UTC

pot-kettle-black = that is the pot calling the kettle black

2018-05-01 00:51:22 UTC

bet you thought you were clever

2018-05-01 00:51:27 UTC

no it isn't

2018-05-01 00:51:33 UTC

Uhuh.

2018-05-01 00:51:36 UTC

this is you letting on that you are an idiot

2018-05-01 00:51:45 UTC

Whatever helps you sleep pal

2018-05-01 00:51:56 UTC

i was talking to dawl

2018-05-01 00:52:21 UTC

If the whole "I'm the only one who's right!" shtick helps, keep it up I guess.

2018-05-01 00:52:23 UTC

who found the need to call me out and thought itself clever

2018-05-01 00:52:24 UTC

Closed ontology, doi.

2018-05-01 00:52:52 UTC

∫x^2 dx

2018-05-01 00:53:27 UTC

can you solve that @Pretentieux ?

2018-05-01 00:53:52 UTC

and yes I know I'm an idiot

2018-05-01 00:53:55 UTC

Nah man, math is just government lies.

2018-05-01 00:53:59 UTC

but I'm also a genius

2018-05-01 00:54:05 UTC

Can trust it.

2018-05-01 00:54:10 UTC

Government lies are math man.

2018-05-01 00:54:15 UTC

They teach it in public schools

2018-05-01 00:54:19 UTC

lol

2018-05-01 00:54:40 UTC

I learned calc properly from Spivak, like a good goy..I mean boy.

2018-05-01 00:55:11 UTC

one bit of philosophy I will always stand by
"Because everyone is unique, we are all similar."

2018-05-01 00:55:11 UTC

I learned trigonometry in the reeducation chamber personally

2018-05-01 00:55:17 UTC

And then baby Rudin for more in-depth Real Analysis.

2018-05-01 00:55:19 UTC

trig ouch

2018-05-01 00:55:43 UTC

I learned trig with calc don't force me to remember

2018-05-01 00:56:21 UTC

At least it wasn't learning something like algebraic topology in the gulag.

2018-05-01 00:56:36 UTC

matrices were a bit hard too

2018-05-01 00:56:57 UTC

Firstly, all of those individuals have different facial structures to the crew

2018-05-01 00:57:02 UTC

Or working through Jackson's electrodynamics solo.

2018-05-01 00:57:11 UTC

Now I'm having PTSD

2018-05-01 00:57:15 UTC

But of course, the government just covered it up with plastic surgery

2018-05-01 00:57:22 UTC

lol math will do that to you

2018-05-01 00:57:35 UTC

Because that's what the government has time to do

2018-05-01 00:58:08 UTC

y'all from the US?

2018-05-01 00:58:13 UTC

I'm a math-whore myself. It's just the problems in Jackson are rough.

2018-05-01 00:58:16 UTC

Yup

2018-05-01 00:58:23 UTC

Yeah.

2018-05-01 00:58:27 UTC

Hey, national survey

2018-05-01 00:58:47 UTC

Grew up in the same town where Mike Pence is from.

2018-05-01 00:58:59 UTC

You're shitting me?!

2018-05-01 00:59:04 UTC

That's wild

2018-05-01 00:59:20 UTC

first year in bay area Cal then lived in Northern Va

2018-05-01 00:59:36 UTC

I went to high school with two of his nieces. Their only redeeming qualities were attached to their chests.

2018-05-01 00:59:59 UTC

they had something there?

2018-05-01 01:00:12 UTC

Massive.

2018-05-01 01:00:25 UTC

Nice

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>.>

2018-05-01 01:00:56 UTC

And when you're 15 trying to go through AP Chem with those in the classroom was just rough.

2018-05-01 01:00:57 UTC

*pics or it didn't happen amirite*

2018-05-01 01:01:05 UTC

Ha, that was a good while ago.

2018-05-01 01:01:24 UTC

But one of them was or maybe still is a local news anchor.

2018-05-01 01:01:57 UTC

that one?

2018-05-01 01:02:09 UTC

Yeah she was one of them

2018-05-01 01:02:49 UTC

Oy vey time has been unkind

2018-05-01 01:03:18 UTC

someone doesn't know how to do makeup on her 😱

2018-05-01 01:04:33 UTC

But being an outspoken troublemaking atheist was just as difficult as one would expect.

2018-05-01 01:04:41 UTC

that pic scared people away

2018-05-01 01:05:59 UTC

atheist, Buddhist, whatever, I don't care so long as you're a kind person who tries to do right 🀷

2018-05-01 01:06:23 UTC

Welp, so much for me then.

2018-05-01 01:06:24 UTC

Amen to that

2018-05-01 01:07:08 UTC

I honestly couldn't give half a shit about someone's beliefs so long as they're a decent person

2018-05-01 01:07:09 UTC

If I wanted to be pedantic I could go on at great length about moral anti-realism, but that's a long and pointless train.

2018-05-01 01:07:17 UTC

@Smartyrdom I didn't say nice I said kind

2018-05-01 01:09:24 UTC

Ok, that's amazing.

2018-05-01 01:10:03 UTC

Oh yeah

2018-05-01 01:10:10 UTC

Someone posted about that in another server

2018-05-01 01:10:12 UTC

Cool af

2018-05-01 01:10:17 UTC

A really cool and impractical extension of the player piano or Jacquard loom.

2018-05-01 01:10:19 UTC

The maker of that one is trying to build one that he take apart and put back together so it can go on the road

2018-05-01 01:10:56 UTC

I'm curious how sensitive it is to temperature with metal balls.

2018-05-01 01:11:19 UTC

prolly not if you look at the way the sit

2018-05-01 01:11:33 UTC

moisture would be more of an issue

2018-05-01 01:11:59 UTC

Yeah moisture/humidity warping the wood would wreck it.

2018-05-01 01:12:32 UTC

part of the reason for the ply wood rather that solid pieces

2018-05-01 01:14:49 UTC

rube goldberg style stuff can be quite interesting

2018-05-01 01:15:43 UTC

This is pretty neat to me.

2018-05-01 01:16:23 UTC

prolly belongs in shitposting

2018-05-01 01:16:45 UTC

It's a restored USAF training film, is that shitposting?

2018-05-01 01:17:03 UTC

it's not news or fake news

2018-05-01 01:17:10 UTC

Fair enough.

2018-05-01 01:17:19 UTC

Frankly, the last convo probably belonged in shitposting

2018-05-01 01:17:42 UTC

shitposting is for everything else really.
plus you can actually preview media there

2018-05-01 01:17:56 UTC

Oh shit

2018-05-01 01:17:57 UTC

Noice

2018-05-01 01:29:26 UTC

@Timcast doesn't seem to respond to emails with story tips

2018-05-01 01:29:33 UTC

any better way of reaching him?

2018-05-01 01:29:52 UTC

that won't result in a restraining order?

2018-05-01 01:29:58 UTC

lol yes

2018-05-01 01:30:07 UTC

Maybe he's doing something like sleeping or working on something else?

2018-05-01 01:30:36 UTC

i mean, it's perfectly possible that I'm just interested in something retarded taht nobody else will care about

2018-05-01 01:30:48 UTC

or that he can't understand spergy emails with a shitload of links

2018-05-01 01:30:58 UTC

I generally give at least a few hours for a response to an email.

2018-05-01 01:31:06 UTC

it's been 2 days

2018-05-01 01:31:33 UTC

Ah, well then I don't know.

2018-05-01 01:32:25 UTC

long story short, the San Fran Public library has an art exhibit featuring the "degenderettes"

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including tons of weapons

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"bloodstained" shirts with stuff like "I punch TERFS"

2018-05-01 01:33:21 UTC

TERFs and other feminists are pissed, mostly because it glorifies violence by men against women

2018-05-01 01:33:34 UTC

Ha nitpicky point, most violence against lesbians is committed by lesbians, contra article.

2018-05-01 01:33:54 UTC

and are reviewbombing the library on facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sfpl.org/reviews/?ref=page_internal

2018-05-01 01:34:00 UTC

But interesting story I'm peeking at anyway.

2018-05-01 01:34:34 UTC

nonstop arguing for several days in those facebook comments, many complaints of 1A violation censorship (since public libraries are gov.)

2018-05-01 01:35:18 UTC

the library has double posted this in response: https://twitter.com/SFPublicLibrary/status/989219339306811392 but have not otherwise made comment

2018-05-01 01:35:48 UTC

people are contacting the mayor and other gov officials, but there is no other public response

2018-05-01 01:36:52 UTC

Also, many of the degenderettes were involved in antifa and the "Battle of Berkeley", lots of screenshots of the same shields, weapons, people, and props.

2018-05-01 01:37:13 UTC

The shirt has been taken down in response to the complaints, but the weapons have stayed.

2018-05-01 01:37:22 UTC

Seems like it's still playing out too.

2018-05-01 01:38:05 UTC

the most notable development since my original email to Tim and Emily was that THE GUARDIAN mentioned it in an incel article https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/29/violent-misogyny-not-confined-to-internet-incels

2018-05-01 01:40:30 UTC

It's relevant for multiple reasons as I see.

2018-05-01 01:41:17 UTC

I thought so. Almost no mainstream reporting too, so far

2018-05-01 01:43:55 UTC

Does anyone know how the "exhibition" was funded? Or if, I guess. There's a case that given limited public space in a library for exhibitions that allowing it is in fact a form of promotion or endorsement, I suppose, if they were given the space without paying.

2018-05-01 01:44:18 UTC

If they rented it or such, then that argument is irrelevant,though

2018-05-01 01:47:48 UTC

Oh, funded by "Friends of the SFPL"

2018-05-01 01:47:56 UTC

seems like questions for a reporter to find out

2018-05-01 01:47:58 UTC

or that

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lol

2018-05-01 01:49:16 UTC

So, they're an external private funding source, that paid for the exhibition. Taking it down (partly) is probably a 1A issue.

2018-05-01 01:50:32 UTC

Maybe some wiggliness about calling for direct violence to neutralize the 1A issues?

2018-05-01 01:53:19 UTC

my suspicion is that mass flagging triggers facebook to take out the comments. it's not the admins of the library doing it

2018-05-01 01:54:22 UTC

I mean taking down part of the exhibition, one of the "bloody" shirts was removed but the rest of the exhibition is apparently still there.

2018-05-01 01:55:17 UTC

oh

2018-05-01 01:55:19 UTC

OH

2018-05-01 01:55:24 UTC

1A double fucked

2018-05-01 01:55:28 UTC

interesting

2018-05-01 01:56:04 UTC

Having trouble finding objective information on it though.

2018-05-01 01:59:19 UTC

https://www.facebook.com/degenderettes/ they have their own post on it as well.

2018-05-01 01:59:29 UTC

zhey have zheir?

2018-05-01 02:02:20 UTC

forgot about that

2018-05-01 02:02:29 UTC

not much drama there that I've seen

2018-05-01 02:04:29 UTC

Right. Isolated community,rather than the publicly funded institution, so that makes sense.

2018-05-01 07:19:49 UTC

was just finishing up watching the Timcast from tonight....I think that there is definitely a difference between Left and Liberals...just my 2 cents

2018-05-01 08:30:29 UTC

Left is near opposite to 'liberal values'

2018-05-01 10:39:57 UTC

yeah the left now isn't liberal but still attempt to cloak themselves using the liberal label which is why people have been using centerist and other labels

2018-05-01 13:49:07 UTC

Classical liberal is pretty much current conservatism

2018-05-01 13:49:18 UTC

Liberalist

2018-05-01 15:22:02 UTC

The pool's getting dirty.

2018-05-01 16:04:15 UTC

kind of quiet in here

2018-05-01 16:09:06 UTC

new Kanye West interview

2018-05-01 16:09:22 UTC

whooping 105 minutes

2018-05-01 16:12:28 UTC

Itypically call them progressives, although I don't like giving the label of "progress", sicne it seems to mean something good

2018-05-01 16:25:16 UTC

all i can think of is 1984

2018-05-01 16:25:37 UTC

the ministry of truth, the ones who put out propaganda

2018-05-01 16:27:30 UTC

it's a bit more complicated nowadays though

2018-05-01 16:29:34 UTC

you Americans are messed up, lol

2018-05-01 16:30:08 UTC

someone doesn't know how to bow hunt

2018-05-01 16:31:29 UTC

Joe Rogan

2018-05-01 16:31:46 UTC

he's talking about deer hunting all the time on his podcast

2018-05-01 16:36:52 UTC

either that, or the deers are major trolls and keep moving at the exact wrong time so that they take an arrow in a non-lethal spot, then run away before they can be killed

2018-05-01 16:38:34 UTC

i mean, at least the 2 in that picture look like shots that just missed their targeted vital, then the deer probably took off before they could be killed

2018-05-01 16:38:49 UTC

yeah

2018-05-01 16:39:38 UTC

and there's only 2 of them

2018-05-01 16:39:44 UTC

there is 3

2018-05-01 16:39:57 UTC

or at least, there is rumors of a 3rd i believe

2018-05-01 16:39:59 UTC

You really need to know what you're doing to use a bow when hunting. I did archery in college and I don't feel confident enough to hunt with a bow. Then again, we used recurve and not compound bows

2018-05-01 17:04:31 UTC

I dislike compound bows. Much prefer recurve.

2018-05-01 17:28:06 UTC

I haven't shot compound, but I did enjoy recurve, it meditative to go shooting

2018-05-01 17:35:01 UTC

it is. same with going to the range. At least with a long rifle for me anyway

2018-05-01 17:35:24 UTC

bows are more fun in that they are not nearly as loud

2018-05-01 18:00:09 UTC

such a professional title

2018-05-01 20:57:13 UTC

"Similarly, the notion that a man offering a women financial compensation in exchange for permission to abuse her is framed time and time again as 'consent,'"

oh boy, isn't this author a ray of sunshine.

2018-05-01 21:00:19 UTC

"The threats of violence against women, on account of having been branded β€œTERFs,” are frightening not only because we must fear for our physical safety or because of the way these threats act as a silencing mechanism, but because this violence is not being condemned, by and large, by most."

and now they know what is like to be labelled a nazi when "punch a nazi" is okay

2018-05-01 21:17:21 UTC

Im curious as to what happened where Joe burned me twice and why he has tons of people in the same realm on his show

2018-05-01 21:18:10 UTC

Tim, any thoughts on that San Fran Public Library stuff?

2018-05-01 21:18:21 UTC

dont know about it

2018-05-01 21:19:12 UTC

good thing your loyal listeners spam you with emails πŸ˜› detailing the story

2018-05-01 21:54:19 UTC

Is there any group out there that doesn't have someone saying they'll fuck them up nowadays?

Violence. Because words are hard.

2018-05-01 22:19:29 UTC

I thought Lauren Southern was banned from England

2018-05-01 23:22:20 UTC

She is

2018-05-01 23:23:31 UTC

She managed to transfer flights, pettibone got detained again doing the same thing, although she had to leave the customs area I think

2018-05-01 23:46:35 UTC

I heard she was only denied entry that time

2018-05-01 23:47:04 UTC

was she banned? or just kicked out?

2018-05-02 00:00:38 UTC

Banned for life

2018-05-02 03:51:07 UTC

Isn't she supposed to be speaking in the UK in 4 days, though?

2018-05-02 03:51:45 UTC

Are they going to be using skype?

2018-05-02 05:21:55 UTC

Black magic

2018-05-02 05:22:13 UTC

No wait, that's cultural appropriation. White magic then

2018-05-02 05:38:13 UTC

which culture are people appropriating when they practice black magic though? πŸ˜„

2018-05-02 05:47:16 UTC

Who cares, white magic has privilege, just use that and get ahead without trying

2018-05-02 05:47:50 UTC

magic of colour is way more intriguing though

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