How is letting a boy wrestle boys impinging on anyone? It's only because people are forcing him to fight girls that this is even a thing.

It wants to be a girl.

No one is forcing him to fight girls.

He's a boy and wants to wrestle boys. The league won't let him.

This situation is not going to end well for the tranny activists when all the normal athletes get fed up and pissed off by this attack on their sports.

Pretty soon the girl's league will ban her, too.

This shouldn't be activism. Just let him wrestle boys. He'll be middle of the pack at best. No more issue.

Just let it fuck off.

Because it's easier for you if he's erased. Not happening.

We'll see who gets erased when this comes to a head.

Girls play in the girls league, boys in the boys. Make a new mixed one for all I care but don't campaign to fuck up what we already have.

No one should be erased.

Certainly not kids.

This is about the normal kids in the normal leagues who don't deserve this nonsense.

Then just let him fight boys.

It's not a boy.

Physiologically he is. Testosterone does that. It's what makes boys, boys.

Boys don't want to wrestle a girl, no matter how roided she is.

I don't think there's anything about this kid that is girly. No breasts. Toned muscles.

Just stop with that idiocy. There's a lot more to a boy than testosterone.

there should just be a trans league at this point. possibly 2 trans leagues

Only 2?

Not really, devpav

Sound bigotted to me.

At least if they had to form a trans league they'd realize how freakish and rare they are against the normal 99.7%.

Genes do nothing but code for testosterone and when to release it.

It's the burst of testosterone at about 6 weeks gestational that determines if a baby is going down Wolfian or Muellerian lines.

Genes code for a lot more than testosterone.

Yes they do. But they do nothing directly. They act on the body through things like hormones.

If the burst doesn't happen, the baby will develop along Muellerian lines - phenotype girl.

We're all girls by default. Boys just get hijacked by testosterone.

This is some long grass we've got here lads. What is that kid going to want to be on it's driving licence?

He says he's a boy

He's taking testosterone. Sounds pretty firm in his belief.

I'm so sick of this tranny bullshit, day in and day out. It is absolute cancer.

is this the biological female that's been on cross-sex testosterone?

I didn't bring it up

The wrestler in TX. Yes, Wulfolme.

I would say he should be fine to compete in the boys league, but biological men with permanent testosterone benefits should not be demanding to compete against women

Sorry you're so obsessed about other people's lives, devpav.

Someone finally mentions the elephant in the room!

It's the trannies who are obsessed with fucking up other people's lives.

You win a prize, Wulfolme!

I referrer you to my question earlier, should a disabled athlete be able to compete against able bodied athletes?

Devpav, not really. "trannies" just want to be left alone to live their lives.

@Poppy Rider ...if they're asking to, yes?

no

Poppy, not with mechanical assist.

tell me the diff between metal and meds?

No, just they want to turn sex-specific institutions upside-down in order to accommodate their mental illness.

Sport is testing the skill and ability of people using their bodies.

Adding tech changes the playing field.

So this kid is going to be on a prescribed amount of T.

@devpav The substantial involvement of outside sex hormones could reasonably be called steroid use, and reasonably be considered a disqualification from typical sport involvement.

And there are male bodies and there are female bodies, and thus separate sports for each.

So does permitting those who went through male puberty to play against those who didn't, even once the testosterone is gone.

"Erasure" of weird edge cases like this is not justification for punishing every other competitor.

rachel mckinnon is a fuckin cheater

The entire league is being punished for the sake of this monstrosity.

Let him fight boys. Then there is no issue.

Boys will wrestle just fine against him.

The boys' league has an issue with it.

Nothing objective, just they "don't like it"

He has no advantage against boys

There's nothing objective about a girl thinking she's a boy.

10th, Who is to say what the prescribed amount should be. Why can't we just raise it, after all these ppl are at a disadvantage.

If anything, I think the strongest case can be made for just disqualifying anyone with that degree of chemical interference.

That would make the most sense here, Wulfolme.

We know the averages for boys that age. That's established.

You end up in the same fight you would with mechanical assistance.

AShow me one boy that got that amount.

What amount? A standard deviation around the mean?

It's artificially introduced

My point is that that is an average.

Should biological males with low testosterone be allowed to compete in sports with enough anabolic steroids introduced to their systems to bring them into average levels of testosterone?

So what of a boy with testosterone insufficiency who takes exogenous testosterone to develop normally. Would he be denied participating in sports?

yes

Yes they should

Allowed to participate

no they shouldnt

That's cruel

that's too bad

Life is cruel

Youth sports should be as inclusive as possible

I will never be a pro basketball player.

That's the whole point

I wasn't fed enough as a child.

Nothing I can do now.

There has to be a limit to what you consider inclusive and exclusive

This isn't pro sports or even NCAA. We're talking youth sports.

If one person has to sit out so the system is fair for 400 other people, that is the most inclusive option

Sport is riddled with doping. Who is to say that a Dr wont make the case that more T is needed. Oh, anmd just happens that this kid wants to play competitive sports.

Once you include low T along with intersex, trans, and general disabled you're talking more like 5 in 100 or so.

Fuck that mate. It is not worth is. If you wont to change something so drastic you must expect to make concessions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS3Tcy9JD0o

@Timcast bruh... this is infuriating https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-alumni-request-meeting-to-address-sexual-violence-on-2016-campaign_us_5c2a2adae4b0407e9084c768

this is the 2019 version of the blm mic snatching

punisher woke? you've got to be kidding me

Garbage thats obvious smear on Bernie lel

The establishment dems are going after him full power now

I thought Bernie was already barred from the 2020 Dem primary. What's this overkill?

He's not barred. He just needs to re-register as a Democrat. Currently he's not a Dem and therefore is understandably not qualified for the Dem primaries.

He switched to Dem in 2015 and switched back in 2017. He'll do the same thing next year I'm sure.

Yeah problem with bernie is that 1) he is old and 2) half the establishment dems absolutely hate him and other half despises him

Also i have not much confidence if he won that he could control the crazy far left fringe part of dems

I dont think he himself is that crazy but some ppl around him makes me shiver

I trust Bernie, but I worry how many AOCs would think his administration is their ticket to full communism now

You forgot

3) He bowed down to the Throne of Hillary.

anyone who supported Bernie in 16 who supports him in 20 is a moron.

the man has already proven he will throw away his principles to get a pat on the head.

A pat on the head and a third house.

https://www.newsweek.com/who-mike-hill-florida-rep-pushes-bill-would-protect-confederate-monuments-1275136

How long before they start calling him racial slurs and race trader?

You mean they haven't already?

about

His age minus a week

lol

They have, already. As i suspected

https://japantoday.com/category/crime/8-injured-as-car-runs-down-pedestrians-on-tokyo-street

person intentionally drives car through crowded street in Tokyo.

Truck of Peace-Senpai

perhaps. Specifics aren't avilable yet.

It might be Aum Shinriko

I know i butchered that spelling but they're the cult that released used sarin gas in several attacks against japanese citizens in the 1990s

I just wanted to say the phrase Truck of Peace-Sama

wait shit

I can make it better

Truck-Senpai noticed them!

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna953281

“Up to this point, the participants have been overwhelmingly white, lacking representation from several perspectives in our community,”

WHUTE

Everyday showing more and more racism

Self-hating white progressives are so pathetic.

lol yep

Regressive

HuffPost: NASA Tracking Flyby Of Most Distant Space Expedition In Human History.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/new-horizons-new-years-flyby-of-iltima-thule_us_5c2abb19e4b05c88b702fbe9?ncid=NEWSSTAND0001

Pro Democracy and Pro Free Speech Leftists are getting rare, but here's a consistent one...

https://youtu.be/SGPgE_-2Dmk

✝️

https://neonnettle.com/news/4491-pope-francis-calls-on-migrants-to-flood-the-us-forget-national-security-

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/12/31/church-england-welcome-boat-migrants/

Why the fuck is everyone going insane these days?!

are they praying for a new Hitler?!

The did not get drunk enough yesterday.

They should seriously disconnect and watch skip hop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auiJ_ZXVD0I

The churches are being consistent with Christ's teachings. On the question of "what would Jesus do", His actions are pretty clear in the New Testament.

We can and do disregard that truth for our own mortal reasons, Lord knows I'm not perfect, but that doesn't change how Jesus spoke and acted.

And therefore the goals the churches aspire to.

And before you castigate me, remember that I am pro border security. That said, I am also pro generous legal (vetted) immigration and pro foreign aid especially where it promotes our goals like countering China's imperialism or preventing mass migration at the source.

I can agree with all those sentiments. I'm still a bit worried about legal immigration, but I have absolutely no issue with legal immigration philosophically. I have coworkers in that category, and I'm glad they're in the country. If anything, foreigners coming to america know firsthand how blessed this nation is. Look at all these ANTIFA activists. How many of them are young white people who have no idea how life is outside the nation?

they have no CONTRAST so they target things that are hilariously bigger problems elsewhere and make crusades out of them.

this world needs a proper crusade

a world wode crusade

You won't get that from Christianity in 2019.

@DrYuriMom Jesus might have been for helping Refugees. He taught People to help People, not Governments pretending to help people and locking up people who don't agree with their ways.

Also, have you read the story of Tower of Babel? God created Nations. Genuine Refugees go back to there's after situation becomes livable. What is going on in Europe is a permanent and almost irreversible attempt at Colonization.

Yes, helping the people, not letting them into your country.

those two things don't have to be at odds with each other.

you can help them without letting them inside.

and also letting them inside isn't helping them

Blockading the Mediterranean would've stopped the migration from the rest of the Continent to Libya, and saved many lives that were lost at sea..
But honestly, *nobody's* really concerned about saving their lives.
Certain political interests wanted them in Europe and they got it.

And incarcarating the NGOs smuggling migrants to Europe as well

they should have gotten their funds seized

but thats bullshit 😦 it is terible they are modern day barbaric invaders who wants to take our houses, crops and OURWAMEN

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/31/entertainment/louis-ck-parkland-audio-trnd/index.html
``"Testify in front of Congress, these kids, what the f***? What are you doing?" asks the man in the audio clip. "Cause you went to a high school where kids got shot, why does that mean I have to listen to you? Why does that make you interesting? You didn't get shot. You pushed some fat kid in the way and now I gotta listen to you talking?" ``

lol

fat kids amirite

soakin up dem bullets

so many "minorities" offended in one argument ...

going after comedians; with a political vendetta is not good optics for msm

@zero_consequences Remember, fat is a natural body armor!

You and I are not that far apart on this, Stefan

https://twitter.com/anthonyfurey/status/1080175451971244034?s=19

Islamic Party of Ontario?

https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2019/01/death-metal-label-shuts-down-after-paypal-credit-cards-pull-out-due-to-doj-fdic-initiative/74398/

and so it begins

execute order 66

death metal is the jedi?

Free speech is the jedi

death metal is the lightsaber

so free speech is gunna die for a while get brought back by a weird country kid who will use it for a while then shit talk his nephew and destroy everything good about free speech to begin with... fuck

So if I read this correctly, all the vitriol that has been directed at Patreon, Paypal, and MasterCard may indeed instead belong to the Trump Administration Dept of Justice. I find this rather amusing if correct.

that would be immensely perturbing

Sounds about right. "Government causes all the problems."

or rather

"Government causes problems, puts into the law that the people who are being affected by the law can't actually talk about the law"

But the Patriot Act was pushed through by the Bush Administration and a Republican Congress to make us all feel safe! Don't you feel so much safer now?

No.

No I don't.

and the Patriot Act was..written well before 9-11..

they just used 9-11 as an excuse to shove it through.

I said that at the time but the conservatives were all "But terrorists!"

welcome to a too party system 😛

So were some Dems (I'm looking at you HRC), but the Repubs we're in control

One side fearmongers things through with "But Terrorists"

and the other side says "BUT MINORITIES!"

According to the article Operation Choke Point dates back to 2013 and rogue FDIC bureaucrats have been carrying it past its ending in August 2017.

and then we all get fucked.

Welcome to -every single thing in every government ever- Devpav

The PA state Achohol Tax?

Was supposed to pay to rebuild Johnstown after the flood.

here we are 130 years later

WITH THE TAX STILL IN EFFECT

This is all based on the Patriot Act and the effort to starve terrorists of funds

https://www.forbes.com/sites/norbertmichel/2018/11/05/newly-unsealed-documents-show-top-fdic-officials-running-operation-choke-point/#471d7a061191

But who defines terrorist? Christian Identity scares me more than ISIL, at least while I'm in the US.

LGBT identity scares me more than ISIL.

How many have Christian Identity murdered last year?

They have cut down on the number of planned Parenthood doctors they have murdered in recent years

So, they murder Planned Parenthood doctors?

Not very many.

Christian radicals have, yes.

But not Christian Identity members?

Bombs and gunshots.

How many did they kill last year? Rough estimate, if you don't have hard numbers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence#Anthrax_threats

Christian Identity was an issue in Idaho back when I lived there. Scary people.

They were behind the second biggest terror attack on US soil.

if you say

OK City

Yup

Nope.

Mcvey is an athiest.

According to this wikipedia page, Christian Identity isn't responsible for any of these incidents.

Christian Identity weren't behind provider murders. Never said they were.

So, they're responsible for zero murders in 2018, to the best of our knowledge.

You could argue Charlotte perhaps.

But not exactly

Compared to ISIL/ISIS, which claimed responsibility for hundreds of murders and hundreds more injuries in various terrorist attacks around the world last year.

I partially understand, though. ISIS mostly operates in areas far away from America, so even though they are objectively far more dangerous, the far less dangerous entity is closer to you.

So, what reason do you have to fear Christian Identity? What is their pattern of behavior that causes you such fear?

@Bookworm how many people in the US has ISIS killed this year?

not Americans, i mean in the us itself

Well lets just be clear.

Fear is not a rational reaction

To my knowledge, a big fat zero.

so trying to rationalize it with "facts" is absurd in the first place.

I just checked to be sure and McVeigh was responding to Ruby Ridge and Waco when he bombed the Federal Building. He invoked God in his letters.

Fear is a response, I'm not asking for a rational breakdown, I'm asking for the stimulus.

then its safe to say Christian extremists have probably killed more people that ISIS in the us. or more likely

Cat, equating anyone who mentions God to Christian Identity is highly disingenuous.

Ruby Ridge and Waco were relayed to the Christian Identity movement.

even the number of terrorist events on US soil is lower than Sovereign citizen or Christian extremist attacks.

they are just much better at hitting large targets

Relayed? What does that even mean?

Related

Autocorrect

On phone

how many people where killed at Waco BEFORE government involvement?

I'm guessing none.