Sorry you're so obsessed about other people's lives, devpav.

Someone finally mentions the elephant in the room!

It's the trannies who are obsessed with fucking up other people's lives.

You win a prize, Wulfolme!

I referrer you to my question earlier, should a disabled athlete be able to compete against able bodied athletes?

Devpav, not really. "trannies" just want to be left alone to live their lives.

@Poppy Rider ...if they're asking to, yes?

no

Poppy, not with mechanical assist.

tell me the diff between metal and meds?

No, just they want to turn sex-specific institutions upside-down in order to accommodate their mental illness.

Sport is testing the skill and ability of people using their bodies.

Adding tech changes the playing field.

So this kid is going to be on a prescribed amount of T.

@devpav The substantial involvement of outside sex hormones could reasonably be called steroid use, and reasonably be considered a disqualification from typical sport involvement.

And there are male bodies and there are female bodies, and thus separate sports for each.

So does permitting those who went through male puberty to play against those who didn't, even once the testosterone is gone.

"Erasure" of weird edge cases like this is not justification for punishing every other competitor.

rachel mckinnon is a fuckin cheater

The entire league is being punished for the sake of this monstrosity.

Let him fight boys. Then there is no issue.

Boys will wrestle just fine against him.

The boys' league has an issue with it.

Nothing objective, just they "don't like it"

He has no advantage against boys

There's nothing objective about a girl thinking she's a boy.

10th, Who is to say what the prescribed amount should be. Why can't we just raise it, after all these ppl are at a disadvantage.

If anything, I think the strongest case can be made for just disqualifying anyone with that degree of chemical interference.

That would make the most sense here, Wulfolme.

We know the averages for boys that age. That's established.

You end up in the same fight you would with mechanical assistance.

AShow me one boy that got that amount.

What amount? A standard deviation around the mean?

It's artificially introduced

My point is that that is an average.

Should biological males with low testosterone be allowed to compete in sports with enough anabolic steroids introduced to their systems to bring them into average levels of testosterone?

So what of a boy with testosterone insufficiency who takes exogenous testosterone to develop normally. Would he be denied participating in sports?

yes

Yes they should

Allowed to participate

no they shouldnt