Message from @Wulfolme

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2018-12-31 21:06:50 UTC  

no

2018-12-31 21:06:59 UTC  

Poppy, not with mechanical assist.

2018-12-31 21:07:26 UTC  

tell me the diff between metal and meds?

2018-12-31 21:07:29 UTC  

No, just they want to turn sex-specific institutions upside-down in order to accommodate their mental illness.

2018-12-31 21:07:56 UTC  

Sport is testing the skill and ability of people using their bodies.

2018-12-31 21:08:27 UTC  

Adding tech changes the playing field.

2018-12-31 21:08:29 UTC  

So this kid is going to be on a prescribed amount of T.

2018-12-31 21:08:30 UTC  

@devpav The substantial involvement of outside sex hormones could reasonably be called steroid use, and reasonably be considered a disqualification from typical sport involvement.

2018-12-31 21:09:05 UTC  

And there are male bodies and there are female bodies, and thus separate sports for each.

2018-12-31 21:09:10 UTC  

So does permitting those who went through male puberty to play against those who didn't, even once the testosterone is gone.

2018-12-31 21:09:12 UTC  

"Erasure" of weird edge cases like this is not justification for punishing every other competitor.

2018-12-31 21:09:39 UTC  

rachel mckinnon is a fuckin cheater

2018-12-31 21:09:44 UTC  

The entire league is being punished for the sake of this monstrosity.

2018-12-31 21:10:12 UTC  

Let him fight boys. Then there is no issue.

2018-12-31 21:10:39 UTC  

Boys will wrestle just fine against him.

2018-12-31 21:10:40 UTC  

The boys' league has an issue with it.

2018-12-31 21:11:06 UTC  

Nothing objective, just they "don't like it"

2018-12-31 21:11:19 UTC  

He has no advantage against boys

2018-12-31 21:11:21 UTC  

There's nothing objective about a girl thinking she's a boy.

2018-12-31 21:11:21 UTC  

10th, Who is to say what the prescribed amount should be. Why can't we just raise it, after all these ppl are at a disadvantage.

2018-12-31 21:11:34 UTC  

If anything, I think the strongest case can be made for just disqualifying anyone with that degree of chemical interference.

2018-12-31 21:11:54 UTC  

That would make the most sense here, Wulfolme.

2018-12-31 21:11:59 UTC  

We know the averages for boys that age. That's established.

2018-12-31 21:12:07 UTC  

You end up in the same fight you would with mechanical assistance.

2018-12-31 21:12:24 UTC  

AShow me one boy that got that amount.

2018-12-31 21:13:25 UTC  

What amount? A standard deviation around the mean?

2018-12-31 21:13:47 UTC  

It's artificially introduced

2018-12-31 21:13:49 UTC  

My point is that that is an average.

2018-12-31 21:14:52 UTC  

Should biological males with low testosterone be allowed to compete in sports with enough anabolic steroids introduced to their systems to bring them into average levels of testosterone?

2018-12-31 21:15:05 UTC  

So what of a boy with testosterone insufficiency who takes exogenous testosterone to develop normally. Would he be denied participating in sports?

2018-12-31 21:15:16 UTC  

yes

2018-12-31 21:15:22 UTC  

Yes they should

2018-12-31 21:15:31 UTC  

Allowed to participate

2018-12-31 21:15:36 UTC  

no they shouldnt

2018-12-31 21:15:47 UTC  

That's cruel

2018-12-31 21:15:53 UTC  

that's too bad

2018-12-31 21:15:57 UTC  

Life is cruel

2018-12-31 21:16:09 UTC  

Youth sports should be as inclusive as possible

2018-12-31 21:16:18 UTC  

I will never be a pro basketball player.

2018-12-31 21:16:24 UTC  

That's the whole point

2018-12-31 21:16:26 UTC  

I wasn't fed enough as a child.