So this kid is going to be on a prescribed amount of T.

@devpav The substantial involvement of outside sex hormones could reasonably be called steroid use, and reasonably be considered a disqualification from typical sport involvement.

And there are male bodies and there are female bodies, and thus separate sports for each.

So does permitting those who went through male puberty to play against those who didn't, even once the testosterone is gone.

"Erasure" of weird edge cases like this is not justification for punishing every other competitor.

rachel mckinnon is a fuckin cheater

The entire league is being punished for the sake of this monstrosity.

Let him fight boys. Then there is no issue.

Boys will wrestle just fine against him.

The boys' league has an issue with it.

Nothing objective, just they "don't like it"

He has no advantage against boys

There's nothing objective about a girl thinking she's a boy.

10th, Who is to say what the prescribed amount should be. Why can't we just raise it, after all these ppl are at a disadvantage.

If anything, I think the strongest case can be made for just disqualifying anyone with that degree of chemical interference.

That would make the most sense here, Wulfolme.

We know the averages for boys that age. That's established.

You end up in the same fight you would with mechanical assistance.

AShow me one boy that got that amount.

What amount? A standard deviation around the mean?

It's artificially introduced

My point is that that is an average.

Should biological males with low testosterone be allowed to compete in sports with enough anabolic steroids introduced to their systems to bring them into average levels of testosterone?

So what of a boy with testosterone insufficiency who takes exogenous testosterone to develop normally. Would he be denied participating in sports?

yes

Yes they should

Allowed to participate

no they shouldnt

That's cruel

that's too bad

Life is cruel

Youth sports should be as inclusive as possible

I will never be a pro basketball player.

That's the whole point

I wasn't fed enough as a child.

Nothing I can do now.

There has to be a limit to what you consider inclusive and exclusive

This isn't pro sports or even NCAA. We're talking youth sports.

If one person has to sit out so the system is fair for 400 other people, that is the most inclusive option

Sport is riddled with doping. Who is to say that a Dr wont make the case that more T is needed. Oh, anmd just happens that this kid wants to play competitive sports.

Once you include low T along with intersex, trans, and general disabled you're talking more like 5 in 100 or so.