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2018-05-30 14:10:50 UTC

and it was really hard to buy at the time anyway so i said meh

2018-05-30 14:11:15 UTC

and you gave him a pair of cement shoes for that advice?

2018-05-30 14:11:15 UTC

but I ended up generating around 20btc through various means becuase I thought it was interesting

2018-05-30 14:11:17 UTC

didnt see any faucet sites?

2018-05-30 14:11:19 UTC

sold it all around 20$

2018-05-30 14:11:24 UTC

I used the faucet

2018-05-30 14:11:35 UTC

when your investment goes up over 20x you sell

2018-05-30 14:12:04 UTC

Tim have you seen dave cullens new video?

2018-05-30 14:12:07 UTC

sounds mental

2018-05-30 14:12:14 UTC

that sounds like that southpark episode where they bet the town treasury at that casino, and then tried to double it

2018-05-30 14:12:59 UTC

yeah that one

2018-05-30 14:13:22 UTC

Sounds like EU started to go full 1984 and is tring to tax us to the ground

2018-05-30 14:13:45 UTC

means I wouldnt be able to watch Tims videos until we brexit

2018-05-30 14:14:09 UTC

@wacka nah, lost half of it on Mt.Gox

2018-05-30 14:14:12 UTC

dont worry i'm sure Theresa May will adopt it for you

2018-05-30 14:14:34 UTC

Would be a couple of millions today if I kept them all

2018-05-30 14:15:04 UTC

oh did you get that letter they sent out? the weirdly 3 folded letter?

2018-05-30 14:15:31 UTC

from mt gox

2018-05-30 15:08:16 UTC
2018-05-30 15:08:42 UTC

if thats not a libel case I dont know what is

2018-05-30 15:11:33 UTC

fukin hell. How many of these pieces of shit are written by robots?

2018-05-30 15:17:47 UTC

lol.. good joke an all... but Im guessing shes blaming the tiredness.. not the medications ๐Ÿ˜› https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1001835705499291648?s=20

2018-05-30 15:18:49 UTC

racism? no. lack of filter keeping you from sounding racist? very likely

2018-05-30 15:19:18 UTC

people need to start looking at patterns of behavior not words.

2018-05-30 15:19:48 UTC

saying something racist doesn't mean you are actually racist. Repeated actions that seem racial motivated, on the other hand, does.

2018-05-30 15:20:51 UTC

Im sure shes been on the "the view"(?) (the one with whoopi) a few times... next time shes on that will be a ratings puller... getting a dress down from whoopi

2018-05-30 15:20:57 UTC

whoopi loves her high horse

2018-05-30 15:22:28 UTC

but in the "not in my backyard" etist of the left envied by the rich white women of upper class suburbs, bad words and contradicting thoughts and facts must be blocked out because if its out of sight and out of mind, it doesn't exist.

2018-05-30 15:24:23 UTC

"link tax" - wew lad

2018-05-30 15:29:03 UTC

that assassinated russian journalist just turned up at a press conference ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-05-30 15:31:55 UTC

is 2018 a movie?

2018-05-30 16:07:06 UTC

fair use under attack if no action: https://saveyourinternet.eu/about-this-campaign/

2018-05-30 16:07:39 UTC

as we saw with GDPR it will be implemented across internet no matter where you are

2018-05-30 16:09:03 UTC

vote in EU parliament 20.06.2018

2018-05-30 16:10:23 UTC

i'm better off blocking EU nations than paying link taxes

2018-05-30 16:17:52 UTC

you don't understand.... big platforms enforce this rules on all ...

2018-05-30 16:18:12 UTC

since they don't want to pay EU

2018-05-30 16:19:20 UTC

they deemed responsible for all published on their platforms...

2018-05-30 16:44:30 UTC

Wow. That petition from yesterday wasn't a fake after all.

2018-05-30 16:50:30 UTC

that link name ๐Ÿ‘€

2018-05-30 16:51:21 UTC

I am Zeta: Researcher of odd news.

2018-05-30 16:51:44 UTC

I'm known on Jeff Holiday's server for just finding the most bizarre shit.

2018-05-30 16:54:38 UTC

@athene big platforms would only enforce it to all IF there was still money in dealing business in the EU. Between GDPR and this, it might just make them go "well, fuck the EU. cost of business is too high"

2018-05-30 16:55:15 UTC

>porn school gun violence

ummm......

2018-05-30 16:55:16 UTC

nah... they will implement filters

2018-05-30 16:56:07 UTC

facebook thought they met the rules for GDPR.... and was then hit with a bunch of lawsuits they now need to pay to deal with.

2018-05-30 16:56:22 UTC

btw just came across this article that might interest creators:

2018-05-30 16:56:57 UTC

it would easier for them to either drop the EU, or disable all links, delete anything with x.xx, and not allow uploads

2018-05-30 16:57:13 UTC

small lawsuits against billions they might pay EU

2018-05-30 16:57:44 UTC

its their politics ... implement rules through money pressure...

2018-05-30 16:58:00 UTC

there is 710 mil ppl in EU28

2018-05-30 16:58:12 UTC

thats it?

2018-05-30 16:58:25 UTC

just to put my conspiracy hat on for a sec... I wonder if the EU wanted US businesses like twitter and facebook to stop working in the EU, so an EU alternative could appear

2018-05-30 16:58:37 UTC

they are incredibly protectionist

2018-05-30 16:58:47 UTC

at this rate, china might be easy for facebook to get into, and more financially beneficial

2018-05-30 16:59:27 UTC

wacka i think not... to much debate and opinions crossing the pond

2018-05-30 16:59:31 UTC

fuck, investing in infrastructure in india might a better investment than changes this drastic to their system.

2018-05-30 16:59:32 UTC

ppl became restless

2018-05-30 17:00:52 UTC

@wacka no, socialist just don't understand that business are not made of free money (just like they don't understand the people they tax are not a piggy bank either), and that changes cost money. both for the government and companies.

2018-05-30 17:00:57 UTC

its opposite acctually... repressing new players more likely... policy, platforms, media etc

2018-05-30 17:01:51 UTC

global players established... no need for new distruptive patterens to appear i guess

2018-05-30 17:02:22 UTC

my conspiracy theory hat ๐Ÿ˜‰

2018-05-30 17:02:38 UTC

however, given how potentially far reaching, it could put most internet sites out of business. which could, in theory, result in pressures from all over the world to repeal their policy.

2018-05-30 17:02:54 UTC

also could lead to some sites boycotting the EU.

2018-05-30 17:04:19 UTC

proactivity is always better than reacting... as now.... if you are proactive you prepare all that necessary for your idea... others can only be cought offguard and hastly react + not forsee all consequencess

2018-05-30 17:04:33 UTC

i wonder what the potential for international fallout might be.

2018-05-30 17:05:38 UTC

i mean, with GDPR, most people were more or less fine with it. But fair use? that is controversial. People are always pushing that boundary

2018-05-30 17:05:57 UTC

and the US failing media?

2018-05-30 17:06:27 UTC

anyway internet infuencers should talk about it since they are the ones under attack the most.... others will survive... that is why there is silence about it

2018-05-30 17:07:02 UTC

well private buisness can do what they like in US

2018-05-30 17:07:41 UTC

so if forced somewhere else...

2018-05-30 17:08:09 UTC

and it benefits main actors in US also

2018-05-30 17:08:27 UTC

and risk UK actors uploading using VPNs or Spoofing to get around UK law?

2018-05-30 17:08:45 UTC

this entire act is to hold the hosts of the information, not the uploaders, liable

2018-05-30 17:09:07 UTC

if they allow anything with a UK copyright to be uploaded, they are fucked

2018-05-30 17:10:04 UTC

it will be implemented accross internet... no matter what... wait.. wil find some articles about this...

2018-05-30 17:10:56 UTC

you just said they can do what they like in the US, yet admit they wont

2018-05-30 17:11:08 UTC

i'm agreeing here

2018-05-30 17:11:51 UTC

but the US failing media don't have the money to get around this stuff and in youtube/facebook/twitter/google add these filters, they will have major problems.

2018-05-30 17:23:40 UTC

can't find rly good reference to this discusion but I found this article instead that might help in the future for posting without platforms:

2018-05-30 17:31:53 UTC

oh and you are right.. fb didn't implement gdpr to all users:

2018-05-30 17:31:59 UTC

Having said it would follow GDPR โ€œin spiritโ€, Facebookโ€™s actions tell a different story. On Wednesday Reuters reported that the company would change its terms of service so that its 1.5 billion non-European users would no longer be covered by the privacy law. Until now, all users outside of the US and Canada have been governed by terms of service agreed with the companyโ€™s international headquarters in Ireland. Since any user data processed in Ireland will soon fall under GDPR, Facebook is changing the agreement so users in Africa, Asia, Australia and Latin America are governed by more lenient US privacy laws.

Where it needs to comply with GDPR, Facebook seems to have focused its efforts on getting user consent for its data collection practices () rather than reducing the data it collects. It has developed a sequence of consent requests that explicitly outline how each type of data will be used. However, as the company has designed these requests in a way that makes it harder to opt out than opt in.

2018-05-30 17:36:49 UTC

okay, so then all people in the EU need to do is use Tor

2018-05-30 17:42:55 UTC

are you 100% sure yt will not implement filters for it all over the platform? It is under copyright disguise

2018-05-30 17:43:22 UTC

apparently there are conservatives on roseannes side... all Im seeing is condemnation from everyone but ok https://twitter.com/JarrettHill/status/1001530006231597056?s=20

2018-05-30 17:44:12 UTC

he really gotcha'd that strawman

2018-05-30 17:47:55 UTC

is it ok to not give a fuck because roseanne is annoying and it was a shitty sitcom?

2018-05-30 17:52:23 UTC

its about free speech and racism debate... when you cross the line I guess.... I am from EU and am allowed to say my friends that are monkeys.. but I guess If one would be black american it would be insulting... since history... it was insulting to aristocrates when darwin said it first also lol ... point of view ... but context matter ... also... to you americans: How much % black to be considered black?

2018-05-30 17:57:12 UTC

she was allowed to say it, but even free speech doesn't protect you from repercussions.

2018-05-30 17:57:47 UTC

She is an idiot and is annoying, but people liked her show apparently. i think this is just a chance for another network to steal it

2018-05-30 17:58:59 UTC

So CBD is banned, but YouTube only cracks down on creators who post videos that include ads for CBD companies? No concerns about those, some with tons of subscribers, who discuss at length the benefits of CBD?

2018-05-30 17:59:41 UTC

Mhmm. we'll see if Fox picks it up and if some of the bleeding hearts on that show want to continue with that network.

2018-05-30 17:59:42 UTC

there is a difference between selling something, and discussing it

2018-05-30 18:00:25 UTC

Huh, that's not considered promoting it?

2018-05-30 18:01:15 UTC

probably depends. i mean, youtube is not known to enforce things equally.

2018-05-30 18:01:46 UTC

but if its not mentioning a specific company and saying go buy it from then, it might go undetected

2018-05-30 18:16:20 UTC

J-just a prank bro !

2018-05-30 18:22:35 UTC

EU's up to shady Internet destoring bullshit!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvXOfq3AB8s&feature=youtu.be

2018-05-30 18:25:08 UTC

These things come in 2s

2018-05-30 18:25:29 UTC

Pretty sure US will show something similar in the making soon

2018-05-30 18:25:42 UTC

Similar to Acta and Sopa

2018-05-30 18:48:01 UTC

"Arkady Babchenko emerged at a police press conference on Wednesday afternoon in front of journalists who had been expecting updates on the investigation into his murder."

oops? lmao.
"So... the update is....we found him alive"

2018-05-30 18:52:46 UTC

Yeah pretty much

2018-05-30 18:53:15 UTC

Pretty weird if you consider they are blaming russia

2018-05-30 18:54:35 UTC

they seem to claim it was to find who was actually trying to kill him... how that logic works? no clue

2018-05-30 19:04:22 UTC

wait, hold on, this EU thing, doesn't it mean that no one will be able to share news stories?

2018-05-30 19:04:28 UTC

at least, no one in the EU

2018-05-30 19:05:50 UTC

Nah thats far too soon to say

2018-05-30 19:06:09 UTC

But its something big companies would like to do

2018-05-30 19:25:29 UTC

this is starting to feel like you might not be able to share links to news articles. or that websites will disable that ability for fear that is what will happen

2018-05-30 19:26:08 UTC

@Timcast you should get will to look at this if he is free some time in the next week or so to do so

2018-05-30 20:27:54 UTC

wow man, those two wage earners may not have been racist before.. but I bet they are now ๐Ÿ˜›

2018-05-30 20:30:13 UTC

If this is the precedent being set in the world, then i say at closing, all people, even the person currently being weighted on, be railroaded out of the establishment with "we are closed" and if people object go "Well, it would be racists if we didn't. Don't yell at me, yell at the people who established this precedent"

2018-05-30 20:30:52 UTC

i'm sure people who have had to work closing would not mind to terribly that they could force everyone out of the store so they can get on with all the tasks that keep them there for hours after closing.

2018-05-30 20:40:24 UTC

how to make people hate social justice

2018-05-30 20:40:30 UTC

fire them and call them racist for literally doing nothing

2018-05-30 20:43:47 UTC

kinda like how to make a member of the alt-right: call them inherently racist and sexist for existing

2018-05-30 20:59:13 UTC

almost seems like being a dick to people for no reason turns them spiteful

2018-05-30 21:02:41 UTC

That bakery firing story is infuriating. If you work for a lefty business, or any corporation really, you will clearly get thrown under the bus over racial PR.

2018-05-30 21:06:45 UTC

to be fair, the right wing business would fire you if it earned them more money

2018-05-30 21:49:10 UTC

Maybe. But at least that would be rooted in some kind of reality. I donโ€™t think there is a current right wing equivalent of this. Not yet anyway. Let things heat up for a few more years. Then everyone will be completely insane.

2018-05-30 21:55:22 UTC

@Timcast if anyone on the progressive end of the spectrum was going to learn that lesson, then they would've learned it years ago. at this point everyone is entrenched and no one is going to change their opinions. it's just whoever can wield power over the other.

2018-05-30 22:18:11 UTC

@Dr.Wol but they would wait to see if the PR actually affected things.

2018-05-30 22:18:28 UTC

also, don't those workers have grounds to sue for wrongful termination?

2018-05-30 22:18:52 UTC

the company admitted they did nothing wrong, worse, that they followed the rules, and they got fired.

2018-05-30 22:25:52 UTC

@Grenade123 depends on the state laws. If itโ€™s a โ€œ right to workโ€ state you can be fired for any reason that isnโ€™t illegal discrimination.

2018-05-30 22:26:20 UTC

also "unconscious" bias... shit you dont even know you think apparently..

2018-05-30 22:29:43 UTC

aka existing

2018-05-30 22:33:17 UTC

there are too many nazis in this discord

2018-05-30 22:33:26 UTC

damn straight

2018-05-30 22:33:28 UTC

errr.. what?

2018-05-30 22:33:29 UTC

"D

2018-05-30 22:34:06 UTC

I only count one, maybe two (jury's still out on the guy if he's edgelording)

2018-05-30 22:34:48 UTC

martini_man, AussieAryan

2018-05-30 22:35:07 UTC

What I've seen concerning Martini hasn't been hard line.

2018-05-30 22:35:11 UTC

Just his sourcing.

2018-05-30 22:35:29 UTC

pretty cringe ideology

2018-05-30 22:35:45 UTC

Like I said, I'm not positive he's not just an edgelord.

2018-05-30 22:36:00 UTC

I prefer not to label someone incorrectly.

2018-05-30 22:36:30 UTC

Overexaggerations as counter points are valid thought provokers.. doesn't mean anything necessarily.

2018-05-30 22:38:26 UTC

Too many Nazis? How many should be here? Whatโ€™s the min/max?๐Ÿ˜‚

2018-05-30 22:39:11 UTC

And yes, someone can literally have a swastika on their avatar, and I'll still not immediately label them a Nazi.

2018-05-30 22:39:15 UTC

0 is the best number.

2018-05-30 22:39:25 UTC

wrong

2018-05-30 22:39:30 UTC

more than 0 is the best number

2018-05-30 22:39:38 UTC

as constant reminder not to be like that.

2018-05-30 22:39:45 UTC

I'm with Lotheron.

2018-05-30 22:40:09 UTC

Anyone who doesn't want Nazis to speak doesn't have confidence in their ideals by comparison.

2018-05-30 22:40:15 UTC

I mean in general. Not specifically in the discord.

2018-05-30 22:40:29 UTC

I agree.

2018-05-30 22:40:32 UTC

They have a right to speak like everyone else.

2018-05-30 22:41:00 UTC

You let them speak, and you destroy the foundation of their arguments.

2018-05-30 22:41:22 UTC

But this Discord is pretty public. No need to worry who is and isnโ€™t in here.

2018-05-30 22:42:28 UTC

Some people will like their ideas regardless of them being debunked or challenged (in some cases that'll just encourage them to like it) but overall it is a better, more free way of speech.

2018-05-30 22:43:52 UTC

yup, and those are the lost cases, its hard to bring the extremes to moderation and those shouldn't necessarily be the goal, but perhaps those that aren't as extreme.

2018-05-30 22:44:01 UTC

sunlight is the best disinfectant.

2018-05-30 22:45:26 UTC

Thats a great sum of the argument. Not focusing on the extremes.

2018-05-31 00:59:15 UTC

Don't need to be a prison guard to know there might be a need for prison reform, but I'm glad a bunch of armchair experts are chiming in.

2018-05-31 01:20:09 UTC

the top comment nails it tho

2018-05-31 01:20:18 UTC

What fresh hell are we living in?

2018-05-31 02:39:07 UTC

The UK is implementing a Link tax

2018-05-31 02:39:18 UTC

You have to pay to use hyperlinks apparently

2018-05-31 02:39:45 UTC

The UK is?

2018-05-31 02:39:51 UTC

EU

2018-05-31 02:40:03 UTC

Not just Uk, shit

2018-05-31 02:40:18 UTC

Lemme get a link

2018-05-31 02:41:32 UTC

It's not done yet, and what's up with brexit?

2018-05-31 02:42:07 UTC

Yes, we were discussing this early. Hence I was like "the UK?" Because idk where brexit is at these days

2018-05-31 02:42:18 UTC

But it's worse than that

2018-05-31 02:42:33 UTC

They will be checking uploads for copyrighted content

2018-05-31 02:43:03 UTC

This could be the end of the internet in the eu states

2018-05-31 02:43:06 UTC

Basically all sites will not let you upload or share links just to be safe most likely

2018-05-31 02:43:25 UTC

Twitter, youtube, facebook, even discord....

2018-05-31 02:43:58 UTC

I don't see how this will help news sites. You won't be able to sent links for them to get clicks anymore

2018-05-31 02:44:17 UTC

This seems like a bad idea for everyone

2018-05-31 02:44:36 UTC

Even the owners of the copywrited content

2018-05-31 02:45:13 UTC

"will protect your copywrited.... By not letting anyone, yourself included, share it!"

2018-05-31 02:46:01 UTC

Need that thinking black man meme "can have copywrite infringement if you have no copywrited content anymore"

2018-05-31 06:40:02 UTC

Lmao a link tax

2018-05-31 06:40:20 UTC

Im getting a vpn if that ever comes to pass

2018-05-31 06:40:33 UTC

Its like they want to destroy the internet

2018-05-31 06:40:59 UTC

Its like a combustion tax on cars

2018-05-31 06:41:06 UTC

A flight tax on bees

2018-05-31 06:42:29 UTC

not gonna lie I would tax bees for flying in my airspace if they had money

2018-05-31 07:47:35 UTC

Im happy

2018-05-31 07:47:59 UTC

they are killing their Internet faster than it was going to die naturally

2018-05-31 08:03:55 UTC

You know i've been thinking,

If linking links is gonna be bad,

What happens if you put a link of a site you own yourself in your tweet?

Can media that has a deal with twitter still link your tweets that way?

2018-05-31 08:04:26 UTC

because they'll be linking a tweet that has a link

2018-05-31 08:05:19 UTC

Or an image that has a link of a website somewhere written on the image, like a T-shirt

2018-05-31 08:11:52 UTC

@Grenade123 brexit is a mess

2018-05-31 08:18:11 UTC

interesting

2018-05-31 08:20:24 UTC

the plot thickens!

2018-05-31 08:56:53 UTC

If Kim Jong-un was white.. imagine the alt left calling for a nuke of peace to purify his racism lol

2018-05-31 10:34:15 UTC

Another reason the distory the EU. The EU wants to restrict access to websites it doesn't like. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvXOfq3AB8s&feature=youtu.be

2018-05-31 10:34:45 UTC

Have you got a license for that link?

2018-05-31 10:34:59 UTC

No mate.

2018-05-31 10:35:28 UTC

Good

2018-05-31 10:35:46 UTC

my culture is not your god damn prom dress

2018-05-31 10:35:49 UTC

Hopefully that redpills a lot of people about the dangers of one world governments. Usually they don't care but if their internet is threatened they will be up in arms.

2018-05-31 10:36:08 UTC

I'm not paying (((them))) a penny.

2018-05-31 10:36:49 UTC

Well someone has to pay them, Italy won't be for long

2018-05-31 10:36:56 UTC

@CreativeRealms Maybe we will just have to wait and see.

2018-05-31 10:37:38 UTC
2018-05-31 10:39:39 UTC

@Deleted User yeah I just watched it, hence my ability to sound intelligent on the matter

2018-05-31 10:50:12 UTC

Lol sorry lads

2018-05-31 10:50:30 UTC

But it wont

2018-05-31 10:51:24 UTC

Itally is in constant crisis for years

2018-05-31 10:51:40 UTC

No chance of them crushing the eu i am afraid

2018-05-31 11:18:48 UTC

The fact that both those populist parties did not campaign on leaving the eu or euro should tell you all you need to know

2018-05-31 11:19:20 UTC

Their eurosceptic views are far from those of british eurosceptics

2018-05-31 11:32:33 UTC

oh lavrov and kim jong have already met

2018-05-31 11:32:46 UTC

poisoning the well against trump

2018-05-31 11:35:43 UTC

Italy will either abolish the EU or become Muslim and have no requirement for the EU, either way the EU is going bye bye

2018-05-31 11:36:56 UTC

if the EU went back to just being an EEC it could actually thrive

2018-05-31 11:45:20 UTC

Well eu doomposting is a thing for a while now

2018-05-31 11:45:37 UTC

But i wouldent hold my breath if i were you

2018-05-31 11:46:06 UTC

Eu has loads of big issues

2018-05-31 11:46:34 UTC

But most Europeans just want to change it not abolish it altogether

2018-05-31 11:46:38 UTC

yeah I doubt EU is going anywhere soon... my guess is it might stagnate for a bit

2018-05-31 11:47:34 UTC

โ€œ Europeโ€™s soft coup dโ€™ etat in Italy is a watershed moment โ€œ by Ambrose Evans Pritchard on The Telegraph

The pro EU elites have canceled the results of the 2018 Italian election because anti EU parties overwhelmingly won.

http://archive.today/ie5Ew

2018-05-31 11:48:27 UTC

telegraph is as anti EU as guardian is pro EU

2018-05-31 11:48:45 UTC

they are useful tho.. as theyre the only ones that will mention certain things

2018-05-31 11:49:29 UTC

That italy story is much more complicated then how some ppl portray it

2018-05-31 11:49:59 UTC

And it will take some time to untangle

2018-05-31 11:50:58 UTC

Also 5star are crazy lefties and union are right wingers so that coalition will be unstable as hell too

2018-05-31 11:51:07 UTC

Iโ€™ll be eagerly awaiting more stories from other news outlets

2018-05-31 11:51:20 UTC

Its going to be interesting to watch for sure

2018-05-31 11:51:55 UTC

Sentinel i have seen some stuff on politico about it

2018-05-31 11:51:56 UTC

are you using lefty and right wingers as in what the media calls those things? or as what they actually mean?

2018-05-31 11:52:28 UTC

Well you could say 5 star is populist left

2018-05-31 11:52:38 UTC

And that union is populist right

2018-05-31 11:52:51 UTC

Some of their objectives are the same

2018-05-31 11:52:59 UTC

While others dont match

2018-05-31 11:53:15 UTC

Both are very anti establishment

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