"Circumstantial evidence is generally admissible in court unless the connection between the fact and the inference is too weak to be of help in deciding the case. Many convictions for various crimes have rested largely on circumstantial evidence."

regardless, the point is sometimes its not anyone's direct fault, or so many people's fault, that its not a good standard. At the end of the day, whoever funds the prison and/or the court system that put them there should pay for false imprisonment.

@LotheronPrime that is basically say if it sounds like a duck, walks like a duck, looks like a duck, thats good enough reason to call it a duck even if you don't have DNA proof.

right

hmm if true: https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1001472417418620928

yeah you would think catching her with her suitcase going through customs would be enough circumstantial...

starting to get a bit conspiratorial..

but worth a look if true

in either case, I REALLY think he should have had enough time to mount a defense.. I don't agree with a single day charge, verdict, sentencing without being able to contact a solicitor.

especially if he was given a public defender..

dave cullen was saying he had permission from the police to film... interesting if true

I read that too that he asked forgot to bring that up

Fucked up if true

if it is true, I would put that down to left hand not talking to the right, rather than malice... but he could certainly use it to get out if true

That does change things.

https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&q=%23FreeTommy%20permission&src=typd

some people claim

small result though so maybe true/maybe not

This tweet has the video clip
https://twitter.com/DMartyr/status/1000458420560908288?s=20

im not sure that's him outright be granted permission

I’m also skeptical. It also didn’t give him permission to explicitly film the defendants entering the court. Others on twitter are pointing out that he said recording, and not filming. Maybe the cop thought it was audio?

normieTube is starting to invade my recommended feed <:FeelsBadMan:411876345761497089>

ive got the stuff id normally watch like Sargon, Tim, Quartering

Peterson

and then.....

7 Phrases AMERICAN Phrases BRITS Don't Understand! :crying emoji:

BEGONE

can you give us an example of a phrase I dont understand?

just try to have a conversation with someone from the deep south

i might have trouble

I speak almost everyday with someone from texas ... does that count?

not really

😦

its like the states just east of texas

in the swamps

that sort of the deep south

like what phrase?

like disney world?

between texas as disney world 😄

Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Georgia

and the northern part of Florida

furthest north I think Ive been is ft lauderdale

ok north west

not the east coast

panhandle

Orlando is not the south. As strange as that sounds. People in Orlando rarely have a southern accent.

the east coast is a lot of retired people

right

more the panhandle then anyone else

you get old and cold and move south

Yup. North Florida is southern and south Florida is northern 😂😂

wheres the kennedy space park thing... I seem to remember visiting that as a child

In the #shitpost channel I posted a pair of screen shots, showing a journalist asking for very specific tweets from female journalists sent to them by elon musk.

yup I saw that

because you know by rating journalist, that automatically means women oppression

im talking about that in todays video

erin has engaged in the same behavior shes complaining about

and so have her collegaues

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/29/italian-voters-brace-for-euro-showdown-ahead-of-snap-elections.html seems to undermine the democratic process and the will of the people. nothing worse than a democracy that shares responcibility with the citizinry but shares none of the power.

its like a solution looking for a problem

Yeah, I’m totally disgusted with the state of journalism today. It’s not even a question that there’s a problem. These people aren’t reporters, they’re paid activists. It’s sick.

https://twitter.com/wspd1pio/status/999708899274981376

https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2018/05/29/schietpartij-in-luik--vrouw-wordt-gegijzeld/

terror in belgium.. again..

dude's already dead though

these cookie popups are too much

youve gone too far EU

jesus christ everyone knows how the internet works

its cookies and a series of tubes

when the cookie law first came around in about 2010 it got me lots of work 😃

the fact that 'warnings' of the only way the internet can exist is mandated

thats too much

apparently people don't know how the internet works when they got pissed at facebook and google for being facebook and google

imagine everytime you make a cup of coffee the coffee machine has a popup warning you about the dangers of caffeine

"oh look, i can use this for free..... HOW DARE YOU NEED TO PAY FOR THIS SOMEHOW! "

honestly, given the level of caffeine addiction, might not be a bad thing

would be annoying as hell however

no no no no

life is danger

fuck the warnings

but then how would people know not to stop chainsaw blades with their genitalia

natural selection

checkmate

the consequence of too many warnings is you unlearn the population to take responsibility for their own health

just like with anything there is give and take.

i mean, its probably a good idea to tell people something is a poison before they try and drink it if they didn't know before

you can search the internet, wikipedia for basically anything that could harm you

do you do that with everything all the time 24/7?

you can search the internet and find lies too

i spend a lot of time looking stuff up

my personal favorite site http://www.dhmo.org/

and honestly i dont interact with that many things, and i dont think many other people do either

but i know enough to know not to ingest random liquids

also knives are sharp

guns go pow

do you let other people take the fall before you learn some of those things?

if no one said a stove was hot, how would you know before you touched it?

well you can feel the air around the stove

it makes the room hotter

metal smells hot

how do you know the metal smells hot if you don't know that the metal you are smelling is hot

cause i cook for myself

at some point someone needs to either tell you this, or you touch it

or, you see someone else touch it

yeah parenting

you learn as a child

fire indeed hot

well, like i said, give and take.

its not the same

it is. tell me, if a young kid is never told what information these sites keep on him, the site goes out of its way to hide this from him, and he sees everyone using it seemingly without care, what reason would he have to think there is a problem and therefore go research it

thats the problem with the nanny state

its teaches you to never look for the snake in the grass

this is interesting

cause there will be a sign for snakes

https://www.change.org/p/valve-corporation-do-not-launch-active-shooter-a-school-shooter-video-game?source_location=discover_feed

that looks phony

firstly, Valve doesnt make games anymore

they just run steam

this has been a thing that has been popping up for the last couple of years

yeah, I'm sure

@Radcliffe would you bitch about people putting up their own warnings?

it depends on the status of the warning

i might have a conversation about it

maybe the warning is unjustified, maybe im wrong, maybe it doesnt go far enough

largely i dont really care what people do from person to person

we are all a little crazy

mandates from on high, from these seats of superiority are absolutely despicable

we are so safe today and people are still complaining about safe spaces

Do you think I should not be held responsible for me, as an expert of my property and therefore knowing full well that there is a spot that is not safe, telling you it is safe to walk on only to have it result in injury to you?

if was on your property, and we are friends, why would you lie to me?

in this hypothetical, youd have to go out of your way to be the bad guy, maybe even by hiding something so it looks safe

why, in this instance, doesn't matter.

i have no requirement to tell you

friends wouldnt let someone walk into a pit

but i have no obligation, according to you, to inform you. and should you get hurt, i am still not at all at fault

you are completely neglecting the social process

if you get hurt, and i refuse to accept responsibility, what do you do?

maybe you can't pay to get treated for whatever reason.

this instance you are describing is too shallow

is it?

yes

why?

i dont know why im on your property, i dont know what our relationship in this context happens to be

it doesn't matter why you are on my property, you are here now. Relationship doesn't matter outside I am the property owner and expert on the property, and you are not. The only things that does matter, is that this has been, so far, consensual with all parties.

i think we are coming to an impasse

which means one of two things

we disagree on something more fundamental

or i am being trolled

most likely the former.

although, it could not be a disagreement on something fundamental, but rather that something is not good or bad by itself, but dependent on who is enforcing it.

that certainly is part of it

something came to mind in the middle of this

why dont you knife someone when walk past them on the street

for me, its not because its against the law

that has literally no factor in it

me neither, however, what do you do when someone does knife someone as they walk past?

you mean i witness it?

maybe not you, necessarily, but as a society, what do you do?

do you feel safe with such an individual walking around your community?

thats a lot more of a complex question than you might think

lets assume there is no evidence suggesting it was self defense

lets say there is evidence that a person just walked up and stabbed someone they didn't like, and this stab ended up being sever or fatal

what do you do?

you mean what does the law dictate

no, i mean what do you do?

what would you want to see happen?

Almost 500K supporters in 4 days and no surprise the TR petition is not trending...

trending where?

what i would like to see happen is nearly inconsequential

on change.org at all

@Radcliffe not necessarily.

true, you are just one person, but if nearly everyone around you holds the same or similar opinion?

but march for our lives and remove NRA tv from Amazon are front page haha

then the laws would be different

and my views wouldnt matter again

lets assume there are no laws, or established laws.

would you leave? or would you want them gone?

As 'Solo: A Star Wars Story' Flops, Are Movies About White Men Box Office Poison? https://archive.fo/aPUid

@beyond1 already in <#398973785426100234>

and now it's here as well

true

😎

i dont think this line of questioning is leading anywhere meaningful

but i do have a question for you

well, it started with you asking why you don't stab someone and for you and me, its not because its against the law. Where were you going with that?

for me its because i dont want to harm or kill someone, another person in my community

whats it for you

more less the same. also because i believe in treating others how you would want to be treated, because its stupid to expect others to treat you better than how you treat them.

so it would be stupid of me to expect someone not to stab me if i stab other people

that seems fair

my point is social contracts matter

just like it would be stupid of me to expect cops not to shoot at me when i pull a gun on them, but apparently BLM doesn't believe that

far more than laws

laws come late

laws tend to come into place when there is a breakdown of social contractual order

and the the point i was going to make, which is that laws can/do give an outline for what, in the society you are in, is or is not okay. now, this gets trickier the more you abstract law makers from the people the law governs

so, when i asked what do you do or want to see happen, can become a law of your community for simplicity sake

also so that anyone new entering the community knows these things from the moment they enter

or can know these things at least

what i want to see happen really doesnt matter

but it does.

it does in the same way as your vote counts

it does count, otherwise you wouldn't have any opinion on what you want to see happen

you still have personal agency

i have plenty of opinions that dont count and dont matter

you can still more or leave where you are. unless maybe you are in NK

but i had a question for you

and this one i think, hope can be answered more easily

where are you from?

US

i grew up in Baltimore, MD

So did I.

(we got a Baltimore exchange program here?)

<:LUL:230629383071727616>

for the record, i'm not from Baltimore. I'm from the northeast.

(i should have answered the from question like a sovereign citizen)

i dont even know what that means

i just like to know where people are coming from, literally and otherwise

which part, the northeast or sovereign citizen?

the latter

they basically like to say they are a US citizen but the rules don't apply to them because the articles of confederation say so

also the name of a domestic terrorist organization.

oh lol

you see them on traffic stops a lot saying they don't need a drivers license, nor register their vehicle, nor get out of the car when ordered to

and it often ends with angry cops, broken glass, and a now arrested person that could have just received a warning

im off to the store

conversation was fun

thanks man

np

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5781905/Cyclists-London-white-male-middle-class-says-bike-tsar-rise-Mamils.html this wasent a joke

the lack of faith in humanity i read "this wasn't a joke" with.

are they really saying its just not safe enough? and thats why its only white men?

really

http://www.tmz.com/2018/05/29/morgan-freeman-sexual-harassment-cnn-lawyers/ morgan freeman fighting back against allegations

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/29/edl-founder-tommy-robinson-jailed-13-months

Not so bad

For a guardian report

The court story is that he reported and made comments during the trial even after beeing told he will go to prison if he does it again

http://www.tmz.com/2018/05/29/roseanne-cancelled-racist-tweet-abc/

lmfao

"First #1 show in 24 years" cancelled because Roseanne is a shitlord on twitter

lol have fun missing that revenue, abc

18million viewers, wonder how many of those were sjw twitter personalities demanding the axe. like 10?

Well nostalgia does attract soy

should be cbc

wonder if amazon or Netflix will risk the heat to pick it back up

that would be funny

neither will touch it

both are cucked

that said, how did ABC not see this coming to start with. its fucking Roseanne