But he has said something similar before @GingaBomber

Hence why I said it was old

I remember the time he said that

I found a dumb person on quora

she thinks trump giving money to farmers is socialism

In other words, water is wet

and i pointed it out to her

Statism isnt socialism

How many people advocating for socialism understand socialism, though.

and this is what she says-

Its like the bible

Nest cure to christianity is reading the bible

What should i tell her

Statism

Ask if bailing otu banks is socialism

I don't wanna insult her but the stupidity is giving me a migraine

If bailing out farms is socialism, what is bailing out banks?

If giving money to only a particular group of people is Socialism, then we already live in a Socialist utopia

Think this is enough

I hate this shit dude

they're so desperate to prove socialism is great that now government giving money is socialism

can we rename this discord from subverse to Shivangi because damn you're active 24/7

oi

Maybe being nice to people is Christianity

Wol is still first

I'm insulted LotheronPrime

good

Being peaceful is muslim

Being civilized is white

ask me how much I care about insulting people?

Being a decent person is white.

Not eating pork means Islam

or judaism

Coloniolism is whiteness

But back to the point

also, bailing out farmers is protectionism afaik

You're protecting your own market by keeping them alive for later

People are mixing statism with socialism

Bailing out farmers is similar to charging foreign products

socialism is a form of statism tho

Tarriffs

socialist eat food, eating food is soc..wait a minute 🤔

the arguments for socialism on twitter are cancer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statism

Well they either say the current examples did not have enough socialism

seems like socialism to me

Or were not true to us

And it ranges to very little or alot.

Can range from authoritharian hellhole to watchmen

@LotheronPrime No you cuck

Well the concept of a police force is statism.

lets be honest here

Most modern "socialists" just want to axe 90% of the 1%'s bank account
And have it given to them instead

Not a socialist concept

In socialism there is no private property

the Government IS the country

In Socialism, the govt takes from you

It owns literally everything

Socialism is a form of Statism

In statism, the govt gives some back

NO

GAH

FUCKIN

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/473154577395482634/unknown.png

state has control over social and economic affairs

If you have no personal control over your economic and social affairs, you have no private property

yes

and whos gonna enforce that? The government

NO NO NO

THE GOVERNMENT LITERALLY TAKES IT ALL

AT GUNPOINT

exactly

AND THEN CONTROLS IT

how is that different from what me and loth said?

Taxes?

Govt takes everything and you take scaprs

Taxes are a portion of what you earn

IN STATISM THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT OWN SHIT

Government controls economy and social aspects of life

vs

Government takes all private property and distributes them at their own peril

You dont have to own the company to controll it

We have that with regulation, consumer protection laws

nO

We have laws to protect minors, stop drink driving

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/473154577395482634/unknown.png

we reading the same definition here?

That does not require you to own the country

Socialism, govt owns the means of production.

Statism, govt regulates the means of production. They can only tell people what not to do. Not what to do.

in REAL socialism, the latter is the case 😉

cuz in REAL socialism, there is no dictator or tyrant either 😉

yeah real socialism hasn't been tried yet

jokes aside,

On paper its the same thing

state controls

The small difference means the world

The difference is in how much

Govt owns the company vs dictating the company

whats it called if you get to dictate every aspect of an object?

Totalitarianism

If its limited to telling the company what not to do

nowhere is stated that thats limited

If you get to control something, you own it