Message from @GingaBomber
Discord ID: 473155468152537100
In Socialism, the govt takes from you
It owns literally everything
Socialism is a form of Statism
In statism, the govt gives some back
NO
GAH
FUCKIN
state has control over social and economic affairs
If you have no personal control over your economic and social affairs, you have no private property
yes
and whos gonna enforce that? The government
NO NO NO
THE GOVERNMENT LITERALLY TAKES IT ALL
AT GUNPOINT
exactly
AND THEN CONTROLS IT
how is that different from what me and loth said?
Taxes?
Taxes are a portion of what you earn
IN STATISM THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT OWN SHIT
Government controls economy and social aspects of life
vs
Government takes all private property and distributes them at their own peril
You dont have to own the company to controll it
We have that with regulation, consumer protection laws
We have laws to protect minors, stop drink driving
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/473154577395482634/unknown.png
we reading the same definition here?
That does not require you to own the country
Socialism, govt owns the means of production.
Statism, govt regulates the means of production. They can only tell people what not to do. Not what to do.
in REAL socialism, the latter is the case 😉
cuz in REAL socialism, there is no dictator or tyrant either 😉
yeah real socialism hasn't been tried yet
jokes aside,
On paper its the same thing
state controls
The small difference means the world
The difference is in how much
Govt owns the company vs dictating the company
whats it called if you get to dictate every aspect of an object?


