Message from @Dr.Wol

Discord ID: 473156215258480640


2018-07-29 15:50:13 UTC  

and whos gonna enforce that? The government

2018-07-29 15:50:21 UTC  

NO NO NO

2018-07-29 15:50:28 UTC  

THE GOVERNMENT LITERALLY TAKES IT ALL

2018-07-29 15:50:33 UTC  

AT GUNPOINT

2018-07-29 15:50:33 UTC  

exactly

2018-07-29 15:50:38 UTC  

AND THEN CONTROLS IT

2018-07-29 15:50:41 UTC  

how is that different from what me and loth said?

2018-07-29 15:50:46 UTC  

Taxes?

2018-07-29 15:50:54 UTC  

Govt takes everything and you take scaprs

2018-07-29 15:51:04 UTC  

Taxes are a portion of what you earn

2018-07-29 15:51:16 UTC  

IN STATISM THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT OWN SHIT

2018-07-29 15:51:16 UTC  

Government controls economy and social aspects of life

vs

Government takes all private property and distributes them at their own peril

2018-07-29 15:51:39 UTC  

You dont have to own the company to controll it

2018-07-29 15:51:48 UTC  

We have that with regulation, consumer protection laws

2018-07-29 15:51:49 UTC  

nO

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/473155697438359552/unknown.png

2018-07-29 15:52:09 UTC  

We have laws to protect minors, stop drink driving

2018-07-29 15:52:18 UTC  

That does not require you to own the country

2018-07-29 15:52:56 UTC  

Socialism, govt owns the means of production.

2018-07-29 15:53:12 UTC  

Statism, govt regulates the means of production. They can only tell people what not to do. Not what to do.

2018-07-29 15:53:52 UTC  

in REAL socialism, the latter is the case 😉

2018-07-29 15:54:05 UTC  

cuz in REAL socialism, there is no dictator or tyrant either 😉

2018-07-29 15:54:12 UTC  

yeah real socialism hasn't been tried yet

2018-07-29 15:54:29 UTC  

jokes aside,

On paper its the same thing

2018-07-29 15:54:36 UTC  

state controls

2018-07-29 15:54:39 UTC  

The small difference means the world

2018-07-29 15:54:47 UTC  

The difference is in how much

2018-07-29 15:54:56 UTC  

Govt owns the company vs dictating the company

2018-07-29 15:55:18 UTC  

whats it called if you get to dictate every aspect of an object?

2018-07-29 15:55:35 UTC  

Totalitarianism

2018-07-29 15:55:38 UTC  

If its limited to telling the company what not to do

2018-07-29 15:55:55 UTC  

nowhere is stated that thats limited

If you get to control something, you own it

2018-07-29 15:56:02 UTC  

At best in capitalism, the govt cant force a company to do shit.

2018-07-29 15:56:04 UTC  

YOU added "limited"

2018-07-29 15:56:11 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/473156796463185920/unknown.png

2018-07-29 15:56:23 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/473156848871014401/unknown.png

2018-07-29 15:56:24 UTC  

Other than punish them for not following the law

2018-07-29 15:56:35 UTC  

99.99% is substantial too 😉

2018-07-29 15:56:35 UTC  

substantial=total somehow?

2018-07-29 15:56:38 UTC  

NO

2018-07-29 15:56:41 UTC  

FUCKIN