Or were not true to us

And it ranges to very little or alot.

Can range from authoritharian hellhole to watchmen

@LotheronPrime No you cuck

Well the concept of a police force is statism.

lets be honest here

Most modern "socialists" just want to axe 90% of the 1%'s bank account
And have it given to them instead

Not a socialist concept

In socialism there is no private property

the Government IS the country

In Socialism, the govt takes from you

It owns literally everything

Socialism is a form of Statism

In statism, the govt gives some back

NO

GAH

FUCKIN

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state has control over social and economic affairs

If you have no personal control over your economic and social affairs, you have no private property

yes

and whos gonna enforce that? The government

NO NO NO

THE GOVERNMENT LITERALLY TAKES IT ALL

AT GUNPOINT

exactly

AND THEN CONTROLS IT

how is that different from what me and loth said?

Taxes?

Govt takes everything and you take scaprs

Taxes are a portion of what you earn

IN STATISM THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT OWN SHIT

Government controls economy and social aspects of life

vs

Government takes all private property and distributes them at their own peril

You dont have to own the company to controll it

We have that with regulation, consumer protection laws

nO

We have laws to protect minors, stop drink driving

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we reading the same definition here?

That does not require you to own the country

Socialism, govt owns the means of production.

Statism, govt regulates the means of production. They can only tell people what not to do. Not what to do.