I have a twp sticker on my laptop

Of course, but it's not just the left, we too have far too many do-nothings who insist they're too smart for action, and call everyone engaging in it as "thugs giving REAL(tm) national socialists a bad name" and instead will bring about the NS state by redpilling normie kids about proto-Strasserian-traditionalist kulturkampf in the States during 18th and 19th centuries.

It's not possible to be "too smart" and therefore you lose reality. By definition that's not true. "Intellectuals" are *dumb* , not smart

"y-youre not a nazi are you beast?"

I was out at a rally dude

more than once

i've been beaten for this

You were at a rally more than once? Amazing. But I didn't refer to you necessarily so no need to get defensive.

HOLY SHIT
https://www.facebook.com/WomenRespector/videos/362054997582012/

i don't mean to sound holier-than-thou but i'm desperate to not seem like some dweeb

who's all "muh morals" while doing nothing for the movement

i've long lamented how we sit around memeing and not doing anything while the left uses walkie-talkies and co-ordinates attacks

we do things

what was charlottesville fam

We use walkie talkies and coordinate things

Hey btw guys, sidenote, if people ask why we are refusing this stupid American flag nonsense, use this hitler quote

"This was the reason why we National-Socialists could not consider raising the old flag as a symbolic expression of what we were working for. After all, we did not want to awaken the old-dead Empire, which was destroyed by its own faults. We wanted to build a new State.”

too many people don't, is my point

Yeah we have a lot of neets who don't go to events

But as shit heats up they'll be more drawn out

@MatthewHeimbach "It is noteworthy that the significance of these real political
successes won by our nation in its struggles, enduring more than a
thousand years, were far better understood and appreciated by our
adversaries than by ourselves. Even today we still rave about a
heroism which robbed our people of millions of its noblest blood-
bearers, but in its ultimate result remained totally finitless.

The distinction between the real political successes of our
people and the national blood spent for finitless aims is of the
greatest importance for our conduct in the present and the future.

**We National Socialists must never under any circumstances
join in the foul hurrah patriotism of our present bourgeois world. **
In particular it is mortally dangerous to regard the last pre- War
developments as binding even in the slightest degree for our own
course. From the whole historical development of the nineteenth
century, not a single obligation can be derived which was
grounded in this period itself In contrast to the conduct of the
representatives of this period, we must again profess the highest
aim of all foreign policy, to wit: to bring the soil into harmony
with the population Yes, from the past we can only learn that, in
setting an objective for our political activity, we must proceed in
two directions: Land and soil as the goal of ourforeign policy, and
a new philosophically established, uniform foundation as the aim
of political activity at home. "

Mein Kampf is really my Bible, there isn't a truth in the world that wasn't stated in it before.

He could just as well be talking about boomers and them worshiping flag waving neocons spilling white blood in God forsaken sand countries.

A great quote. I think at this point, besides the League of the South, we're it not falling into this recent push for bourgeois american patriotism

if i had to guess, you don't care about the negroes kneeling during the national anthem, then? not meant as an accusatory question but one borne of curiosity

I ACTUALLY PREFER IT

👌🏻 It won't last. It has been tried so many times before unsuccessfully. Anglin has been pushing it hard. He took offensive when I mentioned it's PR cuckoldry. And I think there's an insignificant difference: Some PR cuck because they're afraid to death of the Jews, Anglin obviously isn't, but he pushes it out of ignorance thinking it's something new and no one's tried the sneaky nazi approach before.

so it shows people what they (kneelers) actually think

I mean, doesn't it help us when blacks stand in solidarity?

it does, it shows White men that the negro ball players arent their buddies

like this is gonna sound really larpy but I think a "dynsfunctional" america is benefit to us

it is

accelerationism?

nothing worse for us than the trains running on time and the 6 pack in the fridge, all while our people are being displaced

Blacks have always stood together with their "CUZ'Ns"

The more they work together, the more whites thirst for that same identity

I dont believe in accelerationism I believe that it will take its course appropriatley

Niggers kneeling is hardly accelerationism. But is it even meaningful to expect negroes to show dedication to a State you wish would crumble asap?

Accelerationism is okay as long as it isn't TOO much, we aren't ready for an all out revolution just yet

call me a wimp But i think this will all happen organically

not to mention yea we arent ready for it yet

Full on accelerationism now would be genocide

I don't think we have too many more tries before our extinction, we've gotta make sure we win this time

so a form of proto-accelerationism. to wake People up

to get the fence-sitters

Well, theoretically in terms of a revolution, the fence sitters have to pick a side

Well, we dont do anything to accelerate, we focus on organizing and growing

the Leftist coalition is doing plenty to accelerate for us

And they no longer feel the need to hide themselves doing it, there's actually media transparency now

And that's waking people up fast

The way I see it, as long as it hurts the ZOG, it benefits us. I'm not an accelerationist necessarily but I do feel giddy pretty consistently about almost every riot and uprising in the West.

i don't. i probably should, but this is my home

and i feel awful seeing the world of my childhood (which was clinton-era shit to begin with) slide further into the filth

yea

its always funny hearing william pierce talk about the clintons I was a child when that was going on so idk much about it

I think my late grandfather would've loved Dr. Pierce

I'm gen z, for me everything has always been complete shit

i plan on briging tape recordings of ADV to his & my grandmother's graves

call it cheesey

thats awesome man

@Hadrian 's always giving me shit for always listening to ADV and nothing new

i love the nostalgia of Dr. Pierce's voice though. I never heard him as a child but everything about it; the sound quality, the topics etc. reminds me of my grandparents

I thought I'm the biggest music sperg here but what is ADV.

does anyone have every single broadcast? i listen to Herr Nordstrom on YouTube but i don't think he has all of them

American Dissident Voices

Ofc.

Dr. Pierce's broadcasts

Yeah. I actually do, sec.

Among the first NS material I had.

thanks man, i appreciate it

they took down the archive.org store of all his broadcasts

which infuriated me

it had an Aryan Nations speech as well i think

😮

@Tarnfurt https://natallsac.wordpress.com/audio/dr-piercee-1997/
https://natallsac.wordpress.com/audio/dr-pierce-1998/
https://natallsac.wordpress.com/audio/dr-pierce-1999/
https://natallsac.wordpress.com/audio/dr-pierce-2000/

I just want this to happen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVciOLOcdgY

@Kombat-Unit 👌🏻

thank you so much, man

np

i thought for sure he had broadcasts dating back to at least 1994 though?

i swear i've heard speeches dated 1994

i want to make that my ringtone

that'd get me in such huge trouble here

i was almost fired for a Swastika phone wallpaper

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZBpr2Dt1pk

"people"

Not living as an open nazi is no life at all. Larping a bluepill is the worst.

I remember watching that movie in class, I bursted out laughing at that scene and was told to leave the room

i know but ever since i started showing my power levels my luck's been getting worse

you gotta get out of the formerly Great White North

@☦Colton of Yore☦ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fmx8A1okcaA

i really want to

I basically force-fed my father the redpill

he now loves Cdr. Rockwell and Dr. Pierce, he's a National Socialist. But he refuses to let his business sink

Haha this Quimby guy is losing his shit at me, the one who stepped up on Craig when we confronted Robb.

he works in real estate and there are a ton of Jews

He's a 20-something year old boomer.

Tell Quimby he's a cunt he can watch his mouth

@MatthewHeimbach how do you reconcile the Tanakh with knowing what the Jews are really like?

The semitic nature of the old testament has always given me pause

Orthodox Christians dont even read out of the OT in liturgy, its a roadmap of jews being evil horrible creatures, leading us to the ultimate anti-Jew, Jesus

I never sperged to my parents about Nazism, never really felt the need, I always cringe a bit when I see those "Hey /pol/ I epically redpilled my mom on the JQ AMA" posts. My family knows I'm a full on nazi, don't really care all that much, but I guess they know I wouldn't care either way.

"Christ is the genius of love, as such the most diametrical opposite of Judaism, which is the incarnation of hate. The Jew is a non-race among the races of the earth.... Christ is the first great enemy of the Jews.... that is why Judaism had to get rid of him. For he was shaking the very foundations of its future international power. The Jew is the lie personified. When he crucified Christ, he crucified everlasting truth for the first time in history. "-Dr. Joseph Goebbels

But isn't it based on them being God's (((chosen people)))

Nah man, Jesus clarifies all that in several key places

i'm not an expert

"Bah, Goethe!" he interrupted contemptuously. "Not even the saintly Thomas Aquinas is able
to reach these people. The great father of the Church has described in his writings our
relationship with the Jews in terms of a voyage on a ship. The Jews, embarked on the same
vessel with the Christians, play a characteristic role: while the Christians are occupied with
sailing the ship, the Jews plunder the storeroom and bore holes in the hull. St. Thomas
recommends that they should be relieved of their booty and chained to the rudder. What an
atrocity! How un-Christian! Poor Jews! One can learn so much from them! At least, according
to Drs. Heim and Schweyer. And so the world goes on, governed with the same wisdom as in
the time of Joseph's Pharaoh." - AH

Not even a christian but I love the shit out of "Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin"

The Parable of the Wicked Tenants
Luke 20:9-19

And he began to tell the people this parable: “A man planted a vineyard and let it out to tenants and went into another country for a long while. 10 When the time came, he sent a servant[a] to the tenants, so that they would give him some of the fruit of the vineyard. But the tenants beat him and sent him away empty-handed. 11 And he sent another servant. But they also beat and treated him shamefully, and sent him away empty-handed. 12 And he sent yet a third. This one also they wounded and cast out. 13 Then the owner of the vineyard said, ‘What shall I do? I will send my beloved son; perhaps they will respect him.’ 14 But when the tenants saw him, they said to themselves, ‘This is the heir. Let us kill him, so that the inheritance may be ours.’ 15 And they threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. What then will the owner of the vineyard do to them? 16 He will come and destroy those tenants and give the vineyard to others.”

Basically, Jesus is saying that because Jews are so evil, God gives his inheritance to us, the Gentiles, and kills the Jews

He gave them every chance not to be evil, but they chose to serve "their father the devil" as Christ said

makes sense

Now, what do you make of Himmler, who was a clear pagan (at least, i think it's clear) and the so-called Positive Christianity movement?

I've heard that the Führer had contempt for Christianity in private

Positive Christianity as Plank 24 of the NSDAP platform outlined is simply traditionalist Christianity.

The Rosenberg Positive Christian movement was so goofy that Hitler refused to give them official status as a religion in the Reich

The Table Talks, the only source of so called "anti-Christian" beliefs of Hitler, has been proven to be false on several levels in the decades since it was published

You are a godsend

Either Hitler was a liar and a swindler from 1918-onward, or he was a Christian. I don't think he was a regular churchgoer or really fanatically Christian, but he was far from anti-Christian

>The Table Talks
I've noticed that people either regard TT as legitimate or forgery depending entirely on their religious position.

that will be an interesting topic of discussion

I came to them as false even i was an edgy atheist funny enough

Perhaps the most important thing is to see where Hitler got his ideology. Dietrich Eckart, to whom Mein Kampf is written to, said "This war was a religious war, finally one sees that clearly. A war between light and darkness, truth and falsehood, Christ and Antichrist"

Eckart was very Christian, but no fan of the OT

Which isn't out of line with traditional Christian understanding

how did you go from edgy fedora to ortho twp goy

Yeah the OT made me uncomfy until you gave that parable

i hated Deuteronomy

In the same year, the historical validity of remarks in the English and French translations of the table-talk were challenged in a new partial translation by Richard Carrier and Reinhold Mittschang, who went so far as to call them "entirely untrustworthy",[6] suggesting they had been altered by Francois Genoud....Many of the quotations used to support arguments in favor of Hitler's anti-Christianity are derived from the Genoud–Trevor-Roper translation. Carrier argues that no one "who quotes this text is quoting what Hitler actually said." -From an aritcle on the Table Talks, btw

now i'm actually okay with it

what do you make of the 12 Apostles being Jews

were they "decent Jews"?

Only Judas was a Jew, the rest of the Apostles were men from Galilee

John 7:1 "After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him."

i thought they were Hebrews? They weren't religious Jews?

Eckart and Hitler shat on Paul big time in Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin.

If Jesus was going home, to Galilee, to be away from "jewry" then His people weren't Jews

wasn't there a big debate in Jerusalem about circumcision? And Peter had to be told that he didn't need to follow the Kosher laws anymore?

How would you describe "Positive christianity", all my knowledge from it comes from Savitri Devi who naturally wrote of it negatively from a pagan perspective, but how would you meaningfully differentiate it from the christianity you practice?

Besides, kikes let the Romans crucify Jesus, while they were living in an ethnarchy and had the duty of enforcing law on their own race.

It's Orthodoxy. The Orthodox symbol is the two headed eagle. One head is the church, one the state, with each having different roles for the good of the body, the people. As Wilhelm Frick said on this "The party stands for positive Christianity. The National Socialist state is absolutely ready to work with the Christian churches, but the solidarity of the churches to the Volk must be a matter of course; that means that the churches must feel bound to the Volk and may never come into opposition to the National Socialist leadership of the state. "

The church must be national, which is why we have Serbian, Russian, Romanian, Greek, Bulgarian etc

yes, i agree. but what about peter and the circumcision/dietary laws?

The authority of the Orthodox church is only found within the nation, other peoples dont have a say. Even if the head of the Russian church hates something a Serb patriarch said, he has no authority to override the national decision

I got into a huge argument

with a catholic

on this

they kept saying it was bad because it was split that way

nationalism vs internationalism

God created the nations, therefore each nation should have its own church

And Peter was corrected, through a church council of dogma in Acts

"“Do you know,” said she, “that even as a child I refused to sing the church hymns that alluded to Jehovah or to Israel, on the ground that I was a German and wanted no foreign religion forced upon me? How I understand your nostalgia for the Olympian Gods as well as for your mother’s old Norse ones! How I do!”

“I am glad you do,” I replied. “Only other National Socialists like ourselves have ever understood how important a part that yearning has played in my whole evolution. But fancy that the exact opposite of our attitude is to be found among some European Aryans! Have you heard of a religious sect in England whose members style themselves as ‘British Israelites’?”

“No.”

“Well, such a sect exists. The adherents, mind you, are not Jews—although some, of course, might be mixed. But I know of some who are thoroughbred Englishmen—Celts and Anglo-Saxons; Aryans. Only they try to prove—by the most spurious arguments—that they and the whole English nation are descended from some ‘lost tribe’ of Israel. Pure-blooded Aryans trying to make out that they are Jews; wanting to be Jews! Have you ever heard of such disgraceful nonsense as that?”

“Well,” put in Herr H, “they have been taught for over 1,500 years that the Jews are ‘God’s chosen people.’ Can you blame them? As you say yourself, the original crime lies in the adoption of Christianity.”

“The one before the last of the Twenty-Five Points,” said I, “although it states that the Party as such stands for ‘a positive Christianity,’ advocates ‘liberty for all religious denominations in the state, so long as they are not a danger to it, and do not militate against the moral feelings of the Germanic race.” Alfred Rosenberg has tried to explain what ‘positive’ Christianity means, and it appears to me that he has just reduced it to that basic commonsense morality which any Aryan can accept."

where's that from?

Can you weight in on that "basic commonsense morality" bit, knowing a bit about positive christianity, how it was theologically different from regular protestantism?

"Christian faith is a heroic, manly thing. God speaks in blood and Volk a more powerful language than He does in the idea of humanity."-Joachim Hossenfelder head of the German Christian Movement

@Tarnfurt "And the time rolls on"

this is one of the most contentious issues within the movement, i know that

Yeah np, Protestantism cut itself off in many ways from the Orthodox view of nation and the fact in Orthodoxy to change dogma, its basically impossible due to the nature of church councils

Protestantism in Germany was closer to Orthodoxy than Catholicism, but both were missing key elements of what Fr. Martin Luther famously said "the Truth lies with the Greeks"

why didn't Luther become orthodox?

Mostly the fact that he wanted Rome to get back to its roots, which would have been Orthodoxy

Father Luther never wanted to split from the Catholic Church, only fix it

seems like he'd have an easier time accomplishing that by sparking an Orthodox revolution as opposed to the Protestant one

after hearing catholics talk about him

you'd think he was satan

Tbh he said even the Turks were better than the Pope, I don't know how much of his orthodoxbooness comes out of theological considerations and how much is just countersignaling everything the Pope does. But yea.

why the heresy with sola scriptura and sola fide, then?

I have huge respect for Fr. Luther. The German people shouldnt be sending money to Rome, they should be helping their countrymen, they should be their own bishops, the mass should be in germany etc

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

After the latest I have taken a strict anti catholic stance

*German

I'm of a different mind

as bill the butcher said in gangs of new york "Christian god guide my hand against this roman popery"

@CatoHostilius is a staunch TradCat and i'm interested in his opinion

Sola scriptura is goofy, because the Scriptures weren't codified for 400 years almost after the death of Christ. How could we have Christianity without the Bible as the only document to judge things off?

The Sacred Tradition and Sacraments of the Church is the Faith

I feel we should all stay in our own nation states of course, but if the Catholic church Can help other countries with their outreach, then that's a good thing

@CatoHostilius For the record, several of our State leaders are Catholic and I adore and love them.

If Luther knew that, why'd he eject the Septuagint and abide by (a hypocritical) sola scriptura

Luther wasn't perfect, nor was Rome, nor is Orthodox hierarchs. Remember, as Saint John Chrysostom said “The road to Hell is paved with the bones of priests and monks, and the skulls of bishops are the lamp posts that light the path.”

Our duty is to keep to the Faith and our traditions, simple as that

"Both negate race and private property; they indulge in brainwash, treason, subversionand have resorted to torture and war to get where they want to go, and supposedly a movement for the poor, the hierarchy of both is filthy rich. The Pope and the International have a lot in common with regard to questionable national loyalties and I wonder how the Church would fare against a 'House Un-American Activities Commitee'-style investigation."

I also feel that the tithes mostly go to your local church in the first place

Especially true with the new Pope.

Oh I have naught but disdain for the commie pope

If anyone is interested in my breakdown of Orthodox nationalism in scripture and tradition... https://www.tradworker.org/2015/01/orthodox-nationalism-a-basis-in-scripture-and-sacred-tradition/

“the Church unites in herself the universal with the national… Orthodox Christians, aware of being citizens of the heavenly homeland, should not forget about their earthly homeland… Christian patriotism may be expressed at the same time with regard to a nation as an ethnic community and as a community of its citizens. The Orthodox Christian is called to love his fatherland, which has a territorial dimension, and his brothers by blood who live everywhere in the world. This love is one of the ways of fulfilling God’s commandment of love to one’s neighbor which includes love to one’s family, fellow-tribesmen and fellow-citizens...

The patriotism of the Orthodox Christian should be active. It is manifested when he defends his fatherland against an enemy, works for the good of the motherland, cares for the good order of people’s life through, among other things, participation in the affairs of government. The Christian is called to preserve and develop national culture and people’s self-awareness.”-Russian Orthodox Church declaration On Church and Nation

I still have to write the tenants for this
https://thestarboardstuff.wordpress.com/2017/05/23/heresy-on-my-website/

Lol Esoterism Heimbachism?

it was something I made up when I was bored

I wanted my website to be an alt right onion style

Mr. Heimbach, allow me to say that you are a personal hero of mine and "meeting" you has only reinforced that

you're a true leader

thanks man!

i appreciate that, i really do

It feels good to have a leader

I agree

There is a sense of actual purpose

My heart was immensely warmed to see the "Jesus Loves You" sign

unironically Hail Heimbach

88

hail heimbach

Well hey, without you guys, I'm just Bruce Willis from Die Hard: With a Vengeance

Seriously though, thank you guys

Thank *you*

"Peace is not the law of action in a fallen world. One has either to accept violence — the condition of any development in Time, — and to fight, with the methods of the fallen world, against that world, and “against Time,” for a Golden Age ideal, or to project that ideal “outside” this visible and tangible earth, according to the words of Jesus of Nazareth “My Kingdom is not of this world” (and the words of the Christian hymn: “This world is not our home...”1) which express the attitude of all men essentially “above Time." - SD on turning the cheek.

SD? Sepp Dietrich?

for me its like me and matt are roughly the same age

Savitri

ah

If he can do stuff I shouldve been doing stuff

“If you avoid dying for the honor and freedom of the Fatherland, you will die a criminal or a slave; die for the faith and the Fatherland and you will be granted life and a crown in heaven.”-St. Philaret of Moscow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct-bU0XqvHI I vow to Thee, my Kinsmen

Having a spiritual home doesn't negate fighting for your physical home

brb

Exactly, it was a rare compliment towards christianity from SD, since the too are able to envision the "Golden Age" and struggle towards it, even in a fallen world, just like National Socialists.

If you ever get the time, I'd be curious as to your thoughts on this book, i found it very informative and thought provoking https://www.amazon.com/Holy-Reich-Conceptions-Christianity-1919-1945/dp/0521603528

I'll add it to my reading list, fo sho. Ever read Anton Holzner?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/289822807234314240/357581959808942090/Anton_Holzner_-_Hitlers_Priest_collection.pdf

I never actually have, ive heard about it

I would likewise be very curious of your thoughts.

dude became an SS officer, right?

if memory serves me right

Yeah, he used to be a priest in the Catholic Church, but then he said "Fuck this" and put on Hugo Boss.

I wish he'd put on the Hugo Boss like Leon Degrelle and stayed a priest, but that's just me

Degrelle was a hero

what do you think of the capoid ethiopids? they're orthodox. Should we be extending aid to them once our own people are taken care of, or do you hold Dr. Pierce's position that we shouldn't even *consider* it

I read "Eternal Front" and "Master Life" by Holzner from Third Reich Books, immediately fell in love with them. It's easy to see why a National Socialist would find being loyal to an international raceless authority to be in conflict, but this is just one position, and even if you didn't agree with his conclusions it contains absolutely irreplaceable wisdom every NS can agree with.

@MatthewHeimbach “Honor means loyalty toward God’s order of creation, toward the life laws, toward the voice of blood, toward himself. The Almighty has placed the laws of action for people and folks in their blood inside them, in their conscience. To be loyal to these divine laws and hence to be an executor and fulfiller of the divine work of creation and of the will of creation, that is the greatest and highest thing for people, that is their honor.”
- Anton Holzner

Aye, very true

@MatthewHeimbach i'm curious about your position on the non-White orthodox

Out of boundless altruism we should speed up them reaching the heavenly joys.

Lol

Dr. Pierce said we shouldn't even *consider* famine relief for them

i see his point

but i know the Church would disagree

The St. Petersburg Theological Academy in May 2001 released a document on globalism that stated “The ideology of globalization is in opposition to the Christian world outlook and incompatible to it; it takes root and is propagandized in the secular society and the Church through the efforts of the world elite and it expresses its interests. Globalization becomes an embodiment of the utopian idea of mondialism about creation of a unitary, supranational and rigidly controlled community on Earth.”

Globalism, of which even food aid would be a part, is against the church

Besides, foreign aid is generally counterproductive even if you felt for the negro orthococks.

If hypothetically EVERY single one of our people in our nation was taken care of, then our next duty would be all Europeans, and so on

Out duty isnt to pad the pockets of some somali warlord even if he is orthodox

And those niggers who were hungry when WLP recorded those broadcasts, well, too late for them to say the least.

i understand fully the doctrine of exterminationism

i think it's logically sound

i'm just trying to reconcile what Dr. Pierce said with what i believe in the Church

We just focus on us

Then all Europeans

Dr. Pierce wasn't a prophet, he wasn't even Christian. But it's tough to know what must be done but also hear the Church's message of compassion

and by the time we've fed every European, ensured total social justice etc; we'll be on Mars

If we just cut the Negro off from food aid, their population would return to a sustainable level and theyd be better off in the long term, and no longer a threat to us

Their population has to fall at some point, it is unsustainable. Might as well just get it over with and worry about feeding our people

makes sense.

It isn't better to feed two foreigners and let your 1 kinsmen die. Scripture itself tells us in 1 Timothy 5:8 “But if any provide not for his own, and especially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

Your job is your people, and to not take care of your people, you're literally denying God's explicit command

Yeah I mean, we became National Socialists because our race is being endlessly abused by our own rulers. When we have intergalactic nazism, then we can think about the rest. Maybe. The last thing the world will run out is bleeding heart liberals, and NS state has indefinitely higher concerns than niglets from Unicef ads.