@Tarnfurt "And the time rolls on"

this is one of the most contentious issues within the movement, i know that

Yeah np, Protestantism cut itself off in many ways from the Orthodox view of nation and the fact in Orthodoxy to change dogma, its basically impossible due to the nature of church councils

Protestantism in Germany was closer to Orthodoxy than Catholicism, but both were missing key elements of what Fr. Martin Luther famously said "the Truth lies with the Greeks"

why didn't Luther become orthodox?

Mostly the fact that he wanted Rome to get back to its roots, which would have been Orthodoxy

Father Luther never wanted to split from the Catholic Church, only fix it

seems like he'd have an easier time accomplishing that by sparking an Orthodox revolution as opposed to the Protestant one

after hearing catholics talk about him

you'd think he was satan

Tbh he said even the Turks were better than the Pope, I don't know how much of his orthodoxbooness comes out of theological considerations and how much is just countersignaling everything the Pope does. But yea.

why the heresy with sola scriptura and sola fide, then?

I have huge respect for Fr. Luther. The German people shouldnt be sending money to Rome, they should be helping their countrymen, they should be their own bishops, the mass should be in germany etc

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

After the latest I have taken a strict anti catholic stance

*German

I'm of a different mind

as bill the butcher said in gangs of new york "Christian god guide my hand against this roman popery"

@CatoHostilius is a staunch TradCat and i'm interested in his opinion

Sola scriptura is goofy, because the Scriptures weren't codified for 400 years almost after the death of Christ. How could we have Christianity without the Bible as the only document to judge things off?

The Sacred Tradition and Sacraments of the Church is the Faith

I feel we should all stay in our own nation states of course, but if the Catholic church Can help other countries with their outreach, then that's a good thing

@CatoHostilius For the record, several of our State leaders are Catholic and I adore and love them.

If Luther knew that, why'd he eject the Septuagint and abide by (a hypocritical) sola scriptura

Luther wasn't perfect, nor was Rome, nor is Orthodox hierarchs. Remember, as Saint John Chrysostom said “The road to Hell is paved with the bones of priests and monks, and the skulls of bishops are the lamp posts that light the path.”

Our duty is to keep to the Faith and our traditions, simple as that

"Both negate race and private property; they indulge in brainwash, treason, subversionand have resorted to torture and war to get where they want to go, and supposedly a movement for the poor, the hierarchy of both is filthy rich. The Pope and the International have a lot in common with regard to questionable national loyalties and I wonder how the Church would fare against a 'House Un-American Activities Commitee'-style investigation."

I also feel that the tithes mostly go to your local church in the first place

Especially true with the new Pope.

Oh I have naught but disdain for the commie pope

If anyone is interested in my breakdown of Orthodox nationalism in scripture and tradition... https://www.tradworker.org/2015/01/orthodox-nationalism-a-basis-in-scripture-and-sacred-tradition/

“the Church unites in herself the universal with the national… Orthodox Christians, aware of being citizens of the heavenly homeland, should not forget about their earthly homeland… Christian patriotism may be expressed at the same time with regard to a nation as an ethnic community and as a community of its citizens. The Orthodox Christian is called to love his fatherland, which has a territorial dimension, and his brothers by blood who live everywhere in the world. This love is one of the ways of fulfilling God’s commandment of love to one’s neighbor which includes love to one’s family, fellow-tribesmen and fellow-citizens...

The patriotism of the Orthodox Christian should be active. It is manifested when he defends his fatherland against an enemy, works for the good of the motherland, cares for the good order of people’s life through, among other things, participation in the affairs of government. The Christian is called to preserve and develop national culture and people’s self-awareness.”-Russian Orthodox Church declaration On Church and Nation

I still have to write the tenants for this
https://thestarboardstuff.wordpress.com/2017/05/23/heresy-on-my-website/

Lol Esoterism Heimbachism?

it was something I made up when I was bored

I wanted my website to be an alt right onion style

Mr. Heimbach, allow me to say that you are a personal hero of mine and "meeting" you has only reinforced that

you're a true leader

thanks man!

i appreciate that, i really do

It feels good to have a leader

I agree