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i'm not an expert
"Bah, Goethe!" he interrupted contemptuously. "Not even the saintly Thomas Aquinas is able
to reach these people. The great father of the Church has described in his writings our
relationship with the Jews in terms of a voyage on a ship. The Jews, embarked on the same
vessel with the Christians, play a characteristic role: while the Christians are occupied with
sailing the ship, the Jews plunder the storeroom and bore holes in the hull. St. Thomas
recommends that they should be relieved of their booty and chained to the rudder. What an
atrocity! How un-Christian! Poor Jews! One can learn so much from them! At least, according
to Drs. Heim and Schweyer. And so the world goes on, governed with the same wisdom as in
the time of Joseph's Pharaoh." - AH
Not even a christian but I love the shit out of "Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin"
The Parable of the Wicked Tenants
And he began to tell the people this parable: “A man planted a vineyard and let it out to tenants and went into another country for a long while. 10 When the time came, he sent a servant[a] to the tenants, so that they would give him some of the fruit of the vineyard. But the tenants beat him and sent him away empty-handed. 11 And he sent another servant. But they also beat and treated him shamefully, and sent him away empty-handed. 12 And he sent yet a third. This one also they wounded and cast out. 13 Then the owner of the vineyard said, ‘What shall I do? I will send my beloved son; perhaps they will respect him.’ 14 But when the tenants saw him, they said to themselves, ‘This is the heir. Let us kill him, so that the inheritance may be ours.’ 15 And they threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. What then will the owner of the vineyard do to them? 16 He will come and destroy those tenants and give the vineyard to others.”
Basically, Jesus is saying that because Jews are so evil, God gives his inheritance to us, the Gentiles, and kills the Jews
He gave them every chance not to be evil, but they chose to serve "their father the devil" as Christ said
Now, what do you make of Himmler, who was a clear pagan (at least, i think it's clear) and the so-called Positive Christianity movement?
I've heard that the Führer had contempt for Christianity in private
Positive Christianity as Plank 24 of the NSDAP platform outlined is simply traditionalist Christianity.
The Rosenberg Positive Christian movement was so goofy that Hitler refused to give them official status as a religion in the Reich
The Table Talks, the only source of so called "anti-Christian" beliefs of Hitler, has been proven to be false on several levels in the decades since it was published
You are a godsend
Either Hitler was a liar and a swindler from 1918-onward, or he was a Christian. I don't think he was a regular churchgoer or really fanatically Christian, but he was far from anti-Christian
>The Table Talks
I've noticed that people either regard TT as legitimate or forgery depending entirely on their religious position.
that will be an interesting topic of discussion
I came to them as false even i was an edgy atheist funny enough
Perhaps the most important thing is to see where Hitler got his ideology. Dietrich Eckart, to whom Mein Kampf is written to, said "This war was a religious war, finally one sees that clearly. A war between light and darkness, truth and falsehood, Christ and Antichrist"
Eckart was very Christian, but no fan of the OT
Which isn't out of line with traditional Christian understanding
how did you go from edgy fedora to ortho twp goy
Yeah the OT made me uncomfy until you gave that parable
i hated Deuteronomy
In the same year, the historical validity of remarks in the English and French translations of the table-talk were challenged in a new partial translation by Richard Carrier and Reinhold Mittschang, who went so far as to call them "entirely untrustworthy", suggesting they had been altered by Francois Genoud....Many of the quotations used to support arguments in favor of Hitler's anti-Christianity are derived from the Genoud–Trevor-Roper translation. Carrier argues that no one "who quotes this text is quoting what Hitler actually said." -From an aritcle on the Table Talks, btw
now i'm actually okay with it
what do you make of the 12 Apostles being Jews
were they "decent Jews"?
Only Judas was a Jew, the rest of the Apostles were men from Galilee
John 7:1 "After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him."
i thought they were Hebrews? They weren't religious Jews?
Eckart and Hitler shat on Paul big time in Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin.
If Jesus was going home, to Galilee, to be away from "jewry" then His people weren't Jews
wasn't there a big debate in Jerusalem about circumcision? And Peter had to be told that he didn't need to follow the Kosher laws anymore?
How would you describe "Positive christianity", all my knowledge from it comes from Savitri Devi who naturally wrote of it negatively from a pagan perspective, but how would you meaningfully differentiate it from the christianity you practice?
Besides, kikes let the Romans crucify Jesus, while they were living in an ethnarchy and had the duty of enforcing law on their own race.
It's Orthodoxy. The Orthodox symbol is the two headed eagle. One head is the church, one the state, with each having different roles for the good of the body, the people. As Wilhelm Frick said on this "The party stands for positive Christianity. The National Socialist state is absolutely ready to work with the Christian churches, but the solidarity of the churches to the Volk must be a matter of course; that means that the churches must feel bound to the Volk and may never come into opposition to the National Socialist leadership of the state. "
The church must be national, which is why we have Serbian, Russian, Romanian, Greek, Bulgarian etc
yes, i agree. but what about peter and the circumcision/dietary laws?
The authority of the Orthodox church is only found within the nation, other peoples dont have a say. Even if the head of the Russian church hates something a Serb patriarch said, he has no authority to override the national decision
I got into a huge argument
with a catholic