I doubt your far right would be listening to his guest Hotep Jesus and agreeing with every word or a lesbian complaining about how the far left had marginalized and trolled her channel for not being radical left enough.

Dude was at Occupy Wallstreet, voted Obama, didn't vote (I believe in 2016), laughed when Trump won but then came to realize that Trump was up against Wallstreet as well. The bank bailouts created a movement that only just materialized in a Trump but the core principles of the movement will live on.

Again analysis that is slanted and unequal doesn’t require a contradictory belief. I’m not out here claiming David duke is a grifter @Maw

My biggest worry if Biden is eventually made president-elect (Jan 6) and President Jan 20th is that he and his projected cabinet, are very anti-2A. And so are the Dems that are in control of the house, and there are a couple of waffling Republicans in the Senate...

On top of it, there are so many irregularities with this election, that if we don't get to the bottom of its never going to get investigated and they will continue to get worse as we get farther beyond the election.

@james j You're describing partisanship, not grifting, my dude.

@Doc yes like when you watch someone lay down certain principles only to break them when it’s in conflict with self interest

@james j how very human.

@Maw yes while claiming to not be , again for the millionth time

The idea is being a grifter requires inherently being bad-faith.

You've yet to explain how Tim Pool is acting in bad-faith.

@inwa the far right does not like Tim pool

I honestly don't think you have anything to worry about... I have seen more libs change their stance on guns this year than I could have imagined.

His target demographic should be near death.

Yeah, the people not those elected to office

@Maw unequal analysis of the political landscape

@james j, you just advanced to level 28!

@james j James, this is being a partisan.

While claiming not to be

Which he could very well believe.

Again

His behavior should not be predictable if he truly believes what he claims

???

Did you just make the argument -- unintentionally -- that religions aren't predictable?

Limited understanding is healthy. Average people most likely would have difficulty coping with raw truth.

For a long time, gun owners have said that everyone having guns would reduce violence. Libs rejected that idea. Then the fear of what would happen if food supplies were compromised during the pandemic set in and they saw the light... And then... they figured out that shooting is really fun. Soon, all tags will be lotteries and you'll be wishing libs went back to hating guns. 😄

Like for example would he ever being up a purely left wing article legitimately attacking the right and then title his videos accordingly. @Maw and then talk about it for like 3 hours

No he would never do anything to Rock the boat of his base. Especially before Trump lost

@james j I'm going to use an analogy that sort of was just brought up by Doc. Just because you believe you're incredibly intelligent, doesn't mean you are.

Regardless of his motivations, it sounds like good business to me.

Truth or constructed realities?

@inwa I fail to understand the difference.

@Doc I saw that coming...

Also religious people at some point realize they are being hypocritical. They just capitulate to social pressure for ease of life. Half your prosperity gospel preachers are out there scamming their congregation @Maw

@TaLoN132 have I become predictable? 😄

With superchats Q. Lol

@TaLoN132 it’s the best business with the most loyal following

I'm pretty sure a lot of folks never have this "awakening" you claim.

Never... I just was picking up what you were putting down.

@Maw a lot have and they shove it down

@Maw you want to address the inconsistencies I pointed out with Tim pool

@TaLoN132 Just a model of the human mind. Your truths are your association of data you have been exposed to. A model of the world. Always very different from the world as is.

@james j I literally have, "it's not my fault if you don't understand"

I believe you said.

That is not true. It is the communicators responsibility to be understood and the comunicee(?) responsible for understanding, according to Wittgenstein.

@Doc You are correct.

No you haven’t , you just appeal to partisan ship and saying it’s perfectly fine if you believe you aren’t being partisan. Under your logic grifters don’t exist until they say I don’t believe what I am saying @Maw even prosperity gospel person is not a grifter. They just believe what they are saying.

@james j Under your logic literally every news outlet is grifting.

My way of defining grifting is more useful in my opinion.

Here I find myself not having the slightest idea what "grifting actually means.

Under your definition you can’t claim cnn and msnbc is left leaning and Fox News is right leaning. You just accept that they are fair and balanced @Maw

@Doc A swindler/con-man, in short.

Because they believe it

@Maw So anyone selling anything.

That doesn't believe in the product, sure.

Maybe, while I have hunted, and learned how, hunting is not my primary reason for owning firearms. Warren v. DC... While every officer I know would gladly do whatever they need to, to protect people they have no actual duty to protect individual citizens, just the community as a whole. So as the adage goes When seconds count police are minutes away.

and with the bATFe loving to redefine established definitions to suit themselves because there is ambiguity in the actual statutes (re: Bump Stock Ban) (on going issues with pistol braces) creates issues. The bump stock ban gives them a precedent to use as a justification to change how they define firearms and accessories despite the fact that I think they were stupid doesn't mean that banning them after years of issuing letters of compliance was acceptable.

@AntiFish03, you just advanced to level 6!

@Maw Anyone can believe in any product. Humans are good at selection bias.

Whatever I’m gonna maintain you guys are blind and will just believe whatever resonates with you.

@Doc There are also people that inherently know the product is garbage and try to sell it to you anyway by lying about its usefulness.

This is a person we'd call a con-man.

I see.

They're being dishonest.

You always make me think... I appreciate that. It seems that we are the intersection of our experiences and our perception, maybe? I'm guessing that as our memories evolve over time, it has an impact on our perception of our experiences? I'm getting dizzy.

Trump said he is a Christian and his favorite book is the Bible. He even talks to Christians. He must a Christian and We can’t question the sincerity of his beliefs because after all he could believe he is

No, we presume he's probably a Christian unless something comes up that would suggest otherwise.

I lump them more together.
"See you the ship of barther, you shall fight him or flee.
He is not worthy your tax, a slave of profit, you the king of the sea,
and your steel superior to his gold."
@Maw

Jesus

Ok maw

@james j Occam's razor.

Yeah

@Maw I presume he has trouble with abstractions.

There are many issues that are boiling over setting stage at the moment. I also am not comfortable watching the Michigan governor go over the top with Covid becoming more of a public spectacle which usually hints at something deeper. The last thing we need is limited state governance but crisis actors or agreed upon agenda to manipulate the population is usually difficult to detect. This year, however it is out of control and usually obvious.

We call this 'the benefit of the doubt'.

Now if he ruined someone's trust?

For sure, you probably won't believe him.

But he could believe he wasn’t breaking any ones trust

But arguably the statement is so innocuous as to not really suggest you shouldn't just take them at their word.

@james j Yeah, for sure.

Then how is he grifting off the right as a pandering platform of center right ideals?

@AntiFish03 Cool name. Are you a SEAL?

Do you think habitual liars think they're bad people?

Center right is a large group @inwa he panders to them on a obvious slant. While claiming he is a leftist. However will never challenge the very right wing articles he reads

@Maw If you speak of Pseudologia fantastica they sometimes do.

@Maw seconds at the time, before their defenses are back up.

The idea is basically anyone can justify doing anything most likely.

Nah, It started as AnthonyFish (when I created it as a freshman in high school) became AntiFish (Anti-Noob) later... Just a little joke from the guys I was destroying in counter strike, tribes, halo, quake etc. that I was crushing at the time

It was a joke, but Thanks! Nice to see you, fish.

With the wide swings of questions, comments, and everything else in this chat there is no telling...

@Doc Reality flips like that are... horrifying to think about though.

@Maw yes. it is very painful for them.

you eliviate this pain in therapy by explaining how they are on the right track.

and that is painful

@maw can you ask Robert if he can cover the letter that the PA state legislative have sent to Congress asking them to reject the states EC VOTES

@AntiFish03 Nothing I say is serious, nor a joke.

@Scott McHarris You can try! You'll have as much luck as if I do it most likely. I don't think they give me preferential treatment!

There is truth and then there are constructed realities surrounding said truth

Even if it wasn't I don't see a harm in being honest and genuine with people about it... its way easier than coming up with weird or unusual stories about how I got it somewhere for something... maybe a tad boring though

@inwa Truth used to be that humans were 6000 years old. This is what @Doc is sort of referring to.

@inwa That is not how the brain works.

Unless you place the truth outside the brain.

Then I agree