Message from @Maw

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2020-12-04 23:33:29 UTC  

@Doc You are correct.

2020-12-04 23:33:53 UTC  

No you haven’t , you just appeal to partisan ship and saying it’s perfectly fine if you believe you aren’t being partisan. Under your logic grifters don’t exist until they say I don’t believe what I am saying @Maw even prosperity gospel person is not a grifter. They just believe what they are saying.

2020-12-04 23:34:12 UTC  

@james j Under your logic literally every news outlet is grifting.

2020-12-04 23:34:22 UTC  

My way of defining grifting is more useful in my opinion.

2020-12-04 23:35:03 UTC  

Here I find myself not having the slightest idea what "grifting actually means.

2020-12-04 23:35:06 UTC  

Under your definition you can’t claim cnn and msnbc is left leaning and Fox News is right leaning. You just accept that they are fair and balanced @Maw

2020-12-04 23:35:14 UTC  

@Doc A swindler/con-man, in short.

2020-12-04 23:35:20 UTC  

Because they believe it

2020-12-04 23:35:25 UTC  

@Maw So anyone selling anything.

2020-12-04 23:35:36 UTC  

That doesn't believe in the product, sure.

2020-12-04 23:35:43 UTC  

Maybe, while I have hunted, and learned how, hunting is not my primary reason for owning firearms. Warren v. DC... While every officer I know would gladly do whatever they need to, to protect people they have no actual duty to protect individual citizens, just the community as a whole. So as the adage goes When seconds count police are minutes away.

and with the bATFe loving to redefine established definitions to suit themselves because there is ambiguity in the actual statutes (re: Bump Stock Ban) (on going issues with pistol braces) creates issues. The bump stock ban gives them a precedent to use as a justification to change how they define firearms and accessories despite the fact that I think they were stupid doesn't mean that banning them after years of issuing letters of compliance was acceptable.

2020-12-04 23:35:43 UTC  

@AntiFish03, you just advanced to level 6!

2020-12-04 23:36:01 UTC  

@Maw Anyone can believe in any product. Humans are good at selection bias.

2020-12-04 23:36:26 UTC  

Whatever I’m gonna maintain you guys are blind and will just believe whatever resonates with you.

2020-12-04 23:36:34 UTC  

@Doc There are also people that inherently know the product is garbage and try to sell it to you anyway by lying about its usefulness.

2020-12-04 23:36:42 UTC  

This is a person we'd call a con-man.

2020-12-04 23:36:47 UTC  

I see.

2020-12-04 23:36:50 UTC  

They're being dishonest.

2020-12-04 23:38:07 UTC  

You always make me think... I appreciate that. It seems that we are the intersection of our experiences and our perception, maybe? I'm guessing that as our memories evolve over time, it has an impact on our perception of our experiences? I'm getting dizzy.

2020-12-04 23:38:10 UTC  

Trump said he is a Christian and his favorite book is the Bible. He even talks to Christians. He must a Christian and We can’t question the sincerity of his beliefs because after all he could believe he is

2020-12-04 23:38:44 UTC  

No, we presume he's probably a Christian unless something comes up that would suggest otherwise.

2020-12-04 23:38:53 UTC  

I lump them more together.
"See you the ship of barther, you shall fight him or flee.
He is not worthy your tax, a slave of profit, you the king of the sea,
and your steel superior to his gold."
@Maw

2020-12-04 23:38:54 UTC  

Jesus

2020-12-04 23:38:56 UTC  

Ok maw

2020-12-04 23:39:22 UTC  

@james j Occam's razor.

2020-12-04 23:39:27 UTC  

Yeah

2020-12-04 23:39:32 UTC  

@Maw I presume he has trouble with abstractions.

2020-12-04 23:39:51 UTC  

There are many issues that are boiling over setting stage at the moment. I also am not comfortable watching the Michigan governor go over the top with Covid becoming more of a public spectacle which usually hints at something deeper. The last thing we need is limited state governance but crisis actors or agreed upon agenda to manipulate the population is usually difficult to detect. This year, however it is out of control and usually obvious.

2020-12-04 23:39:53 UTC  

We call this 'the benefit of the doubt'.

2020-12-04 23:40:03 UTC  

Now if he ruined someone's trust?

2020-12-04 23:40:10 UTC  

For sure, you probably won't believe him.

2020-12-04 23:40:46 UTC  

But he could believe he wasn’t breaking any ones trust

2020-12-04 23:40:50 UTC  

But arguably the statement is so innocuous as to not really suggest you shouldn't just take them at their word.

2020-12-04 23:41:00 UTC  

@james j Yeah, for sure.

2020-12-04 23:42:09 UTC  

Then how is he grifting off the right as a pandering platform of center right ideals?

2020-12-04 23:42:17 UTC  

@AntiFish03 Cool name. Are you a SEAL?

2020-12-04 23:43:04 UTC  

Do you think habitual liars think they're bad people?

2020-12-04 23:43:30 UTC  

Center right is a large group @inwa he panders to them on a obvious slant. While claiming he is a leftist. However will never challenge the very right wing articles he reads

2020-12-04 23:44:06 UTC  

@Maw If you speak of Pseudologia fantastica they sometimes do.

2020-12-04 23:44:21 UTC  

@Maw seconds at the time, before their defenses are back up.

2020-12-04 23:44:39 UTC  

The idea is basically anyone can justify doing anything most likely.