Whatever I’m gonna maintain you guys are blind and will just believe whatever resonates with you.

@Doc There are also people that inherently know the product is garbage and try to sell it to you anyway by lying about its usefulness.

This is a person we'd call a con-man.

I see.

They're being dishonest.

You always make me think... I appreciate that. It seems that we are the intersection of our experiences and our perception, maybe? I'm guessing that as our memories evolve over time, it has an impact on our perception of our experiences? I'm getting dizzy.

Trump said he is a Christian and his favorite book is the Bible. He even talks to Christians. He must a Christian and We can’t question the sincerity of his beliefs because after all he could believe he is

No, we presume he's probably a Christian unless something comes up that would suggest otherwise.

I lump them more together.
"See you the ship of barther, you shall fight him or flee.
He is not worthy your tax, a slave of profit, you the king of the sea,
and your steel superior to his gold."
@Maw

Jesus

Ok maw

@james j Occam's razor.

Yeah

@Maw I presume he has trouble with abstractions.

There are many issues that are boiling over setting stage at the moment. I also am not comfortable watching the Michigan governor go over the top with Covid becoming more of a public spectacle which usually hints at something deeper. The last thing we need is limited state governance but crisis actors or agreed upon agenda to manipulate the population is usually difficult to detect. This year, however it is out of control and usually obvious.

We call this 'the benefit of the doubt'.

Now if he ruined someone's trust?

For sure, you probably won't believe him.

But he could believe he wasn’t breaking any ones trust

But arguably the statement is so innocuous as to not really suggest you shouldn't just take them at their word.

@james j Yeah, for sure.

Then how is he grifting off the right as a pandering platform of center right ideals?

@AntiFish03 Cool name. Are you a SEAL?

Do you think habitual liars think they're bad people?

Center right is a large group @inwa he panders to them on a obvious slant. While claiming he is a leftist. However will never challenge the very right wing articles he reads

@Maw If you speak of Pseudologia fantastica they sometimes do.

@Maw seconds at the time, before their defenses are back up.

The idea is basically anyone can justify doing anything most likely.

Nah, It started as AnthonyFish (when I created it as a freshman in high school) became AntiFish (Anti-Noob) later... Just a little joke from the guys I was destroying in counter strike, tribes, halo, quake etc. that I was crushing at the time

It was a joke, but Thanks! Nice to see you, fish.

With the wide swings of questions, comments, and everything else in this chat there is no telling...

@Doc Reality flips like that are... horrifying to think about though.

@Maw yes. it is very painful for them.

you eliviate this pain in therapy by explaining how they are on the right track.

and that is painful

@maw can you ask Robert if he can cover the letter that the PA state legislative have sent to Congress asking them to reject the states EC VOTES

@AntiFish03 Nothing I say is serious, nor a joke.

@Scott McHarris You can try! You'll have as much luck as if I do it most likely. I don't think they give me preferential treatment!

There is truth and then there are constructed realities surrounding said truth

Even if it wasn't I don't see a harm in being honest and genuine with people about it... its way easier than coming up with weird or unusual stories about how I got it somewhere for something... maybe a tad boring though

@inwa Truth used to be that humans were 6000 years old. This is what @Doc is sort of referring to.