Don't put all your eggs in one basket and don't ever depend on one employer. Always have options

Options = power

That's not the argument my dude.

My issue is with the very system that makes people have to choose someone to exploit them, not necessarily that a worker needs to keep options open to be exploited.

Again, we have different ideas of what "power" is...

Sorry bro I'm teaching rn. Just wanted to give my two cents. If you're operating from a defeatist perspective then you'll always be disappointed. If you don't like the system of work then spend some time in a homeless shelter and reflect on your work ethic

Have fun with your non-sequiturs and outdated boomer arguments then. Again, until you understand how it is that people have constructed work, we will never understand each other.

And besides, all of my eggs are literally not in one basket because I've applied across many different fields.

And by the way, an insurance company did want to hire me, but its commission only, given my concern with the ability to live off of commission. And now I have another interview tomorrow that can hopefully provide more stability than relying on commission.

once you accept a job and work their. all your eggs will be in that basket. so yea they are all in one basket

@Seven Of Swords dude don't be getting hostile, we're all brothers, just be understanding

@Little_Bob_69 I don't understand how I'm being hostile exactly... HHH was the one that said that I should be in a homeless shelter in order to meditate on "work ethic" even though my work ethic is not the issue here...

Well we shouldn't point fingers even if you are right, I do believe that meant to give you an exaggerated example of the type of job you would basically want since you have allot of expectations and requirements and also you replied with "and?" Before he said what he said, sounds pretty hostile, I could be wrong

That wasn't hostile, you said something about not liking how workers are exploited by their employers for doing a service and if you don't like how the system of work is set then that is why homeless shelters exist

@Happy Humble Hermit Really? You think that's why homeless shelters exist? Do you mind if I send you a DM?

Its a YouTube video

I don't think that homeless shelters simply exist just because the workers aren't bending over backwards for the employers enough...

@Little_Bob_69 Was it hostile or did I simply want a more thorough answer of why his point was supposed to be significant?

@Happy Humble Hermit I'll send you the DM anyway and we can have perhaps a much more thorough discussion. If you choose not to watch it, then so be it, to each his own.

I spent time in a homeless shelter

A large percentage of men were divorced rape and unfairly placed there

And a percentage did not want to work and indulged in drugs and alcohol

We can complain about the state of employment but you still need to be employed

Why?

Why should we tolerate a system where just because you don't have a job you suffer a more miserable existence than if you had one?

On VC if anyone Wants to Talk

Why are you defending the very system that allowed for a space to be carved out for you to be "homeless" and thus seen as less than human or a leech in the eyes of many? To me, its better off that that system becomes dismantled and criticized extraordinarily harshly...

@ZODD I would love to, but I have to take these exams. Maybe later.

i don't think he is Defending that system , hes just telling it how he sees it @Seven Of Swords

@ZODD I understand that, but saying that "you better work or you will suffer" sounds to me like a defense... How about instead of saying that you better develop a better work ethics, how about instead we consider ways to think about male homelessness and perhaps solutions that can help eliminate it? Why defend a system that one would clearly hate?

Well in order to Fight the System , you Must out Smart it First. It is No ones Responsibility to Fix any Issues in terms of Legal Systems/ Homeless system, even if it against Men Entirely. ( We Are Getting to MRA Topics at this point)

OK, lets go back to the original topic: employment

Well, Men Make More Money than Women in general

@Seven Of Swords don't be hostile during the enterview. Keep cool

Nobody Wants to work nowadays, its all about automation

@Kazemaru Thanks for the advice.

Also, keep building your network

Yes you need to work only to sustin yourself

Well, it seems Like @Seven Of Swords Doesn't want to work for anyone, So starting your own Company is the Only Option

Thats it

💗 You @the adventures male

We are part of a community here, so... In a certain way, we are part of your network

I heard that a lot of man are dropping out of the work force

true.

In the US

Well I can understand some of them

Women Suck in the USA, Why Work for them. HAHA

We need to work for ourself/femily

Mother/grandma/grandpa

Listen, We as ReDPIll Men , have to Find Value in other redpill men , Its not a Competition anymore guys

That is true

Hey @ZODD... What is the section "super secret basement > cult meeting" about?

Man are cometing because of women

When women are out of the equasion

Good Question? even i don't have access

Man can focus on them selfs

If anyone would like to Volunteer as Mod , Pls DM Andrew MEME King for inquiries

This days the only way you can have real fun in this world, is onlt being single

Could be.... A place to set meeting IRL to this community?

Every day women remind me that I made the right choise of being a Mgtow

@Seven Of Swords same goes for what Hermit said

@Seven Of Swords we should tolerate the system because through it you get things you otherwise couldn't

@Little_Bob_69 How so? How about other systems that can work significantly better and make you more free all the while still providing for what you want?

There is no perfect system, after all, humans are corrupt

@Seven Of Swords that's our current system. MGTOW is literally paradise mindset

@Little_Bob_69 Really? Is it that we are corrupt, or perhaps that we unknowingly create our own corruption?

@Longshanks How is MGTOW any different from being an "opium of the masses" while men simply watch as their social, economic, and political systems corrode? What happens when men are not able to be go their own way because they end up homeless, or they can;t find a job, or they are simply tired with playing the society game for the sake of money?

Do you know what the role of a Sensei is in eastern teachings? @Seven Of Swords

When a student is in folly, the teacher does not tell the student they are in folly

The teacher edifies the folly

Accelerates it

MGTOW is the sensei for society

That makes no sense, but ok.

If every man is going his own way, no man is a student to another, by definition.

But everyone is not MGTOW

Tis quite the reverse, few are MGTOW

Dude, MGTOW aren't even really MGTOW... they just make themselves believe that they are.

>men going their own way

>have to live on wages of arbitrary paper strips in order to survive

ok

if that's what you think MGTOW is you clearly don't get it

Enlighten me.

Is it survival like what they all say?

Self-actualization?

Being weary of female nature?

Simply just not getting married?

All of those things?

MGTOW is independence from external validation

Validation. Nobody talked about living in no woods and shiiET

I would say MGTOWs statistically have a higher earning potential

The average dudes who lived in books in high school, who looked at school as gladiator pits.

Since most humans don't learn from other's mistakes, only a fraction of such men will actually avoid marriage

Most will get burned and learn the hard way

Few will see the Matrix for what it is. Those few are the ones who will have an earthly paradise. Even if society is decaying and burning down around them

And yes, all the above

Make sense?

If you don't understand I recommend you find the nearest road whore and get married to her, you will learn da wae very quickly @Seven Of Swords

Ok... so you can see marriage for the sham that it is, but not the very social mechanisms that create a space for men to call themselves MGTOW in the first place? You don't see the contradictions that many ideas proposed by MGTOW claim, yet their own actions say otherwise?

You talk an awful lot about people not being able to see the Matrix, yet you defend it by suggesting that men can be free in a world where they have to be wage slaves for the sake of "earning potentials".

Peak false-consciousness and make believe.