Message from @Seven Of Swords

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2018-09-18 18:17:45 UTC  

My issue is with the very system that makes people have to choose someone to exploit them, not necessarily that a worker needs to keep options open to be exploited.

2018-09-18 18:17:58 UTC  

Again, we have different ideas of what "power" is...

2018-09-18 18:18:23 UTC  

Sorry bro I'm teaching rn. Just wanted to give my two cents. If you're operating from a defeatist perspective then you'll always be disappointed. If you don't like the system of work then spend some time in a homeless shelter and reflect on your work ethic

2018-09-18 18:19:46 UTC  

Have fun with your non-sequiturs and outdated boomer arguments then. Again, until you understand how it is that people have constructed work, we will never understand each other.

2018-09-18 18:20:34 UTC  

And besides, all of my eggs are literally not in one basket because I've applied across many different fields.

2018-09-18 18:26:58 UTC  

And by the way, an insurance company did want to hire me, but its commission only, given my concern with the ability to live off of commission. And now I have another interview tomorrow that can hopefully provide more stability than relying on commission.

2018-09-18 20:35:54 UTC  

once you accept a job and work their. all your eggs will be in that basket. so yea they are all in one basket

2018-09-18 20:57:28 UTC  

@Seven Of Swords dude don't be getting hostile, we're all brothers, just be understanding

2018-09-18 21:00:21 UTC  

@Little_Bob_69 I don't understand how I'm being hostile exactly... HHH was the one that said that I should be in a homeless shelter in order to meditate on "work ethic" even though my work ethic is not the issue here...

2018-09-18 21:03:40 UTC  

Well we shouldn't point fingers even if you are right, I do believe that meant to give you an exaggerated example of the type of job you would basically want since you have allot of expectations and requirements and also you replied with "and?" Before he said what he said, sounds pretty hostile, I could be wrong

2018-09-18 21:04:04 UTC  

That wasn't hostile, you said something about not liking how workers are exploited by their employers for doing a service and if you don't like how the system of work is set then that is why homeless shelters exist

2018-09-18 21:05:43 UTC  

@Happy Humble Hermit Really? You think that's why homeless shelters exist? Do you mind if I send you a DM?

2018-09-18 21:05:53 UTC  

Its a YouTube video

2018-09-18 21:06:52 UTC  

I don't think that homeless shelters simply exist just because the workers aren't bending over backwards for the employers enough...

2018-09-18 21:07:37 UTC  

@Little_Bob_69 Was it hostile or did I simply want a more thorough answer of why his point was supposed to be significant?

2018-09-18 21:08:44 UTC  

@Happy Humble Hermit I'll send you the DM anyway and we can have perhaps a much more thorough discussion. If you choose not to watch it, then so be it, to each his own.

2018-09-18 21:11:47 UTC  

I spent time in a homeless shelter

2018-09-18 21:12:06 UTC  

A large percentage of men were divorced rape and unfairly placed there

2018-09-18 21:12:24 UTC  

And a percentage did not want to work and indulged in drugs and alcohol

2018-09-18 21:12:37 UTC  

We can complain about the state of employment but you still need to be employed

2018-09-18 21:13:16 UTC  

Why?

2018-09-18 21:13:53 UTC  

Why should we tolerate a system where just because you don't have a job you suffer a more miserable existence than if you had one?

2018-09-18 21:15:37 UTC  

On VC if anyone Wants to Talk

2018-09-18 21:15:42 UTC  

Why are you defending the very system that allowed for a space to be carved out for you to be "homeless" and thus seen as less than human or a leech in the eyes of many? To me, its better off that that system becomes dismantled and criticized extraordinarily harshly...

2018-09-18 21:16:05 UTC  

@ZODD I would love to, but I have to take these exams. Maybe later.

2018-09-18 21:17:33 UTC  

i don't think he is Defending that system , hes just telling it how he sees it @Seven Of Swords

2018-09-18 21:20:18 UTC  

@ZODD I understand that, but saying that "you better work or you will suffer" sounds to me like a defense... How about instead of saying that you better develop a better work ethics, how about instead we consider ways to think about male homelessness and perhaps solutions that can help eliminate it? Why defend a system that one would clearly hate?

2018-09-18 21:23:35 UTC  

Well in order to Fight the System , you Must out Smart it First. It is No ones Responsibility to Fix any Issues in terms of Legal Systems/ Homeless system, even if it against Men Entirely. ( We Are Getting to MRA Topics at this point)

2018-09-18 21:38:30 UTC  

OK, lets go back to the original topic: employment

2018-09-18 21:38:58 UTC  

Well, Men Make More Money than Women in general

2018-09-18 21:39:37 UTC  

@Seven Of Swords don't be hostile during the enterview. Keep cool

2018-09-18 21:39:38 UTC  

Nobody Wants to work nowadays, its all about automation

2018-09-18 21:40:09 UTC  

@Kazemaru Thanks for the advice.

2018-09-18 21:40:45 UTC  

Also, keep building your network

2018-09-18 21:40:53 UTC  

Yes you need to work only to sustin yourself

2018-09-18 21:40:59 UTC  

Well, it seems Like @Seven Of Swords Doesn't want to work for anyone, So starting your own Company is the Only Option

2018-09-18 21:41:03 UTC  

Thats it

2018-09-18 21:41:23 UTC  

💗 You @the adventures male

2018-09-18 21:41:53 UTC  

We are part of a community here, so... In a certain way, we are part of your network

2018-09-18 21:42:20 UTC  

I heard that a lot of man are dropping out of the work force

2018-09-18 21:42:26 UTC  

true.