Message from @Seven Of Swords
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Have you ever had a full time job
No... that's what I'm looking for lol
Again, the whole "appease the employer and it your fault if you don't" argument makes no sense.... I have no control over if I get hired or not. The best that I can do is show up to interviews, dress nice and have my resume prepared.
If I don't get hired, its the employer that decides that, not me.
If you want an easy full time job go networking
Don't put all your eggs in one basket and don't ever depend on one employer. Always have options
Options = power
That's not the argument my dude.
My issue is with the very system that makes people have to choose someone to exploit them, not necessarily that a worker needs to keep options open to be exploited.
Again, we have different ideas of what "power" is...
Sorry bro I'm teaching rn. Just wanted to give my two cents. If you're operating from a defeatist perspective then you'll always be disappointed. If you don't like the system of work then spend some time in a homeless shelter and reflect on your work ethic
Have fun with your non-sequiturs and outdated boomer arguments then. Again, until you understand how it is that people have constructed work, we will never understand each other.
And besides, all of my eggs are literally not in one basket because I've applied across many different fields.
And by the way, an insurance company did want to hire me, but its commission only, given my concern with the ability to live off of commission. And now I have another interview tomorrow that can hopefully provide more stability than relying on commission.
once you accept a job and work their. all your eggs will be in that basket. so yea they are all in one basket
@Seven Of Swords dude don't be getting hostile, we're all brothers, just be understanding
@Little_Bob_69 I don't understand how I'm being hostile exactly... HHH was the one that said that I should be in a homeless shelter in order to meditate on "work ethic" even though my work ethic is not the issue here...
Well we shouldn't point fingers even if you are right, I do believe that meant to give you an exaggerated example of the type of job you would basically want since you have allot of expectations and requirements and also you replied with "and?" Before he said what he said, sounds pretty hostile, I could be wrong
That wasn't hostile, you said something about not liking how workers are exploited by their employers for doing a service and if you don't like how the system of work is set then that is why homeless shelters exist
@Happy Humble Hermit Really? You think that's why homeless shelters exist? Do you mind if I send you a DM?
I don't think that homeless shelters simply exist just because the workers aren't bending over backwards for the employers enough...
@Little_Bob_69 Was it hostile or did I simply want a more thorough answer of why his point was supposed to be significant?
@Happy Humble Hermit I'll send you the DM anyway and we can have perhaps a much more thorough discussion. If you choose not to watch it, then so be it, to each his own.
I spent time in a homeless shelter
A large percentage of men were divorced rape and unfairly placed there
And a percentage did not want to work and indulged in drugs and alcohol
We can complain about the state of employment but you still need to be employed
Why?
Why should we tolerate a system where just because you don't have a job you suffer a more miserable existence than if you had one?
On VC if anyone Wants to Talk
Why are you defending the very system that allowed for a space to be carved out for you to be "homeless" and thus seen as less than human or a leech in the eyes of many? To me, its better off that that system becomes dismantled and criticized extraordinarily harshly...
@ZODD I would love to, but I have to take these exams. Maybe later.
i don't think he is Defending that system , hes just telling it how he sees it @Seven Of Swords
@ZODD I understand that, but saying that "you better work or you will suffer" sounds to me like a defense... How about instead of saying that you better develop a better work ethics, how about instead we consider ways to think about male homelessness and perhaps solutions that can help eliminate it? Why defend a system that one would clearly hate?
Well in order to Fight the System , you Must out Smart it First. It is No ones Responsibility to Fix any Issues in terms of Legal Systems/ Homeless system, even if it against Men Entirely. ( We Are Getting to MRA Topics at this point)
OK, lets go back to the original topic: employment
Well, Men Make More Money than Women in general
@Seven Of Swords don't be hostile during the enterview. Keep cool
Nobody Wants to work nowadays, its all about automation
@Kazemaru Thanks for the advice.