Message from @Atkins

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2018-09-20 12:50:32 UTC  

There is another series of laws, original to protect like people selling newspapers for being responsible for what the newspapers say, but hold the newspaper publisher responsible for allowing it.

2018-09-20 12:52:47 UTC  
2018-09-20 12:52:57 UTC  

Best take on this

2018-09-20 12:53:10 UTC  

Even better then tims

2018-09-20 12:54:48 UTC  

I didn't know that @Grenade123 . It makes sense when you think about it. OK, thats fine, are you saying Twitter should be classed as a news paper vender?

2018-09-20 12:57:04 UTC  

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2018-09-20 13:18:50 UTC  

Who?

2018-09-20 13:23:37 UTC  

@Poppy Rider if they moderate, yes. If they want to stop moderating they can be classified as a platform (I believe that is the term used now to be equivalent to a library or somewhere hosting these works)

2018-09-20 13:24:01 UTC  

Publisher can get sued for the content in their publication, a platform cannot

2018-09-20 13:24:55 UTC  

At least that is my understanding of previous existing law before 230, where a website was sued for slander and it was argued that since they moderate "foul language" they should be a publisher.

2018-09-20 13:24:55 UTC  

Being prevented from moderating is going to have lots of unintended consequences.

2018-09-20 13:25:14 UTC  

Is spam protected by the first amendment?

2018-09-20 13:25:19 UTC  

What about dick pics?

2018-09-20 13:26:39 UTC  

If I crapflood a tweet with replies of meatspin.gif am I protected from intervention by Twitter?

2018-09-20 13:28:02 UTC  

Porn I think has a slightly different set of rules around it, so porn might still be able to be removed. And bans might still be allowed (it's like a library deciding not to have a book)

2018-09-20 13:28:33 UTC  

Wait now. Removing porn is moderating.

2018-09-20 13:28:35 UTC  

Spam would be be allowed, but it doesn't mean the user cannot have mute and block features

2018-09-20 13:29:11 UTC  

Except the president.

2018-09-20 13:29:32 UTC  

Removing illegal posts is not moderation by the platform, and it they don't claim the to be a porn site

2018-09-20 13:29:39 UTC  

What I'm trying to get at here is that there are lots and lots of ways that this can go wrong and we need to consider them.

2018-09-20 13:29:52 UTC  

Yes ^

2018-09-20 13:30:10 UTC  

If you want to see what 'no moderation except illegal stuff' looks like, go to /b/.

2018-09-20 13:30:17 UTC  

Right, and adding more laws won't be a problem

2018-09-20 13:30:19 UTC  

Would a site code of conduct be allowed?

2018-09-20 13:30:41 UTC  

Memba wen /b/ was good?

2018-09-20 13:30:55 UTC  

I don't think social media is helpful much at all.

2018-09-20 13:31:04 UTC  

So i don't really care if it dies.

2018-09-20 13:31:26 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/463054787336732683/492326927365832719/image0.jpg

2018-09-20 13:31:49 UTC  

But i think removing laws is better before adding new ones.

2018-09-20 13:32:05 UTC  

Let's not advocate for our own article 13

2018-09-20 13:32:07 UTC  

90% this

2018-09-20 13:34:13 UTC  

But yes, you might need to modify the old laws slightly to outline what level of stuff is considered editing/moderating and what isn't

2018-09-20 13:34:27 UTC  

But 230 should be removed

2018-09-20 13:35:03 UTC  

Because right now the government is the one protecting conservatives from really suing Twitter and Facebook and the like.

2018-09-20 13:37:12 UTC  

>Tim's annoyed that customers are giving companies customer feedback that their listening of a minority group outside their customer base is causing them to stop buying their products

2018-09-20 13:37:12 UTC  

Thankfully he is doing something about it. Exposing these people and their agenda, bringing attention to it.

2018-09-20 13:37:17 UTC  

About fucking time someone did something.

2018-09-20 13:37:23 UTC  

Dow Jones and S&P all time high

2018-09-20 13:37:25 UTC  

Investigating journalist.