yeah that's my thinking

@Zuihou he went missing inside the saudi embassy in turkey

you're just saying crime gets you somewhere

obviously probably not murder but definitely petty crime

ofc we need rehabilitation but that is not saying that prison should not be pounishment. Not everyone can be fixxed. I think it is cruel to lock up people that have been done for petty crimes with hardened criminals. One should be punished the other should be helped.

72% Reoffense rate for arrested violent criminals in USA

@Blackhawk342 is it proven or this is conspiracy theory time

72%.

how about non violent?

That SA killed the journalist

They spend time in prison, they must pay a price for their actions. But also give them a path to a better life through rehabilitation. Make it much more inviting to go down rehabilitation. If they keep going down the other path, they will receive more punishment.

I don't think you can have one without the other.

cuz im sorry you're not going to convince the public to prefer rehabilitation for violent criminals

We honestly should charge the prison any time they get a reoffender.

@Zuihou Thats where the world is stuck currently, the american government says he went into the embassy and never came out, the saudis say he left shortly after arriving

@ArdBoy that's a good idea

Watch them go full rehab REAL fast

Wow, left pushing a conspiracy theory

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i mean even if they didn't, there would be a profit incentive in our private prison system

Logic is; if a prisoner reoffends, it means the prison did not do the job it contractually agreed to do.

Breach of contract=Give the US Gov the moneys back

Currently, since job history is so important to job seeking, imprisonment is a double whammy against people who have served time.

Does anyone understand what I'm trying to say?

im not sure I saw what you said

oh ok

yeah I'm not sure anyone necessarily disagrees with you

He wants punishment for severe crimes and rehab for non violent ones

I cant wait for saturday

unless you're tim

They spend time in prison, they must pay a price for their actions. But also give them a path to a better life through rehabilitation. Make it much more inviting to go down rehabilitation. If they keep going down the other path, they will receive more punishment.

It's outcome policing instead of trying to gauge the situation on the ground.

That is what I said.

in which case disagreement is what he does

@Dusty Morgan Isn't that what happens now though?

Get to see more sjw cry about goblin slayer episode 2

Okay. Here's a good question. Should people in prison have the right to vote? If you say no, you have to admit that this is suspending their rights until they've served their time, and that would mean it is, in fact, a form of punishment. I think Dusty is right, you can't have one without the other, but that's more a matter of the reality of time in prison.

If the prison did it's job, the prisoner won't reoffend. If they fucked up, we'll know.

@Tress In prison? no

Out fo prison, yes.

Now really @Inquisition We are sorely lacking on rehabilitation.