Then you run into people complaining about how they can't live off of $20,000 of crack money cause they don't have any left over for ramen

isn't that their fault though?

Lel

@Matt-Kill723 If they fail and dont die we still have a social responsiblity to make them able to support themselves

Yes, but people are already too dependent. I think the best way to correct for unproductive behavior is to give them no choice on what to buy, and make their living conditions as uncomfortable as possible without harming them and provide them ample opportunity to get a job

Everyone in the comments is trying to redpil tim

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He's not paying attention

You should be given tickets that get you cases of water and nutrient bricks.

Maybe soap if they're good

I don't think Tim cares about this discord anymore

Its VERY RED now

I actually want him to stay as he is

I just like watching him go insane

Lel

@zutt So everyone fucking hates him for life?

thats the problem with being in the center

Why would leftists join?

no one likes you

I am leftist in a way

Leftist including classic liberalism?

Obviously this would be more of a centrist/right server.

or excluding it

I think @zutt wants Tim to maintain his principles

yeah but he's center left

Classic liberalism feels more center now.

But can look at mess dems are now and see it

not to move because someone else wants them to

Tbh freedom is a right wing talking point now

i don't think red pilling tim would work, he kinda knows what he is talking about 😉

No Centeralist still support lower taxes

Which a fiscal point of view is almost the most important part of a party.

I am not into tax reform discussions tbh

Tim is too caught up on not offending people and letting them do harmful things than telling people to face reality.

I as a centrist am for lower taxes

I am more into making things more efficient

First

I don't even know where to start on taxes

I do