Message from @Matt-Kill723

Discord ID: 504388716152750093


2018-10-23 20:16:15 UTC  

welfare -> you can live | job -> you can buy stuff you want

2018-10-23 20:16:24 UTC  

this is true

2018-10-23 20:16:35 UTC  

I vote for how things should be, not what is most convenient for me

2018-10-23 20:16:40 UTC  

how do we prevent people from becoming dependent on it then?

2018-10-23 20:16:43 UTC  

Well, the "living" part has to be just "Sleep under roof, have drinks and food"

2018-10-23 20:16:58 UTC  

So I would vote for anti abortion

2018-10-23 20:16:58 UTC  

problem starts when you can buy non-essential stuff while on welfare

2018-10-23 20:17:16 UTC  

It has to be uncomfortable to the extreme, but not in any way that would be harmful to their health

2018-10-23 20:17:44 UTC  

But in practice would want to utilize abortion things

2018-10-23 20:17:45 UTC  

Water and nutrient bricks

2018-10-23 20:18:28 UTC  

It is a major convenience to just terminate a child, but it isn't right

2018-10-23 20:18:44 UTC  

what about a Darwinian approach to welfare (if that makes any sense). Let people spend their welfare money on whatever; those who spend it wisely (on food, putting some in savings, and move towards getting out of poverty) will eventually no longer need it

2018-10-23 20:19:14 UTC  

Then you run into people complaining about how they can't live off of $20,000 of crack money cause they don't have any left over for ramen

2018-10-23 20:19:37 UTC  

isn't that their fault though?

2018-10-23 20:20:04 UTC  

Lel

2018-10-23 20:20:19 UTC  

@Matt-Kill723 If they fail and dont die we still have a social responsiblity to make them able to support themselves

2018-10-23 20:20:20 UTC  

Yes, but people are already too dependent. I think the best way to correct for unproductive behavior is to give them no choice on what to buy, and make their living conditions as uncomfortable as possible without harming them and provide them ample opportunity to get a job

2018-10-23 20:20:34 UTC  

Everyone in the comments is trying to redpil tim

2018-10-23 20:20:38 UTC  

😏

2018-10-23 20:20:39 UTC  

^

2018-10-23 20:20:41 UTC  

^ hottest take

2018-10-23 20:20:57 UTC  

He's not paying attention

2018-10-23 20:21:03 UTC  

You should be given tickets that get you cases of water and nutrient bricks.

2018-10-23 20:21:07 UTC  

Maybe soap if they're good

2018-10-23 20:21:10 UTC  

I don't think Tim cares about this discord anymore

2018-10-23 20:21:17 UTC  

Its VERY RED now

2018-10-23 20:21:20 UTC  

I actually want him to stay as he is

2018-10-23 20:21:28 UTC  

I just like watching him go insane

2018-10-23 20:21:34 UTC  

Lel

2018-10-23 20:21:44 UTC  

@zutt So everyone fucking hates him for life?

2018-10-23 20:21:51 UTC  

thats the problem with being in the center

2018-10-23 20:21:53 UTC  

Why would leftists join?

2018-10-23 20:21:54 UTC  

no one likes you

2018-10-23 20:22:08 UTC  

I am leftist in a way

2018-10-23 20:22:14 UTC  

Leftist including classic liberalism?

2018-10-23 20:22:18 UTC  

Obviously this would be more of a centrist/right server.

2018-10-23 20:22:19 UTC  

or excluding it

2018-10-23 20:22:30 UTC  

I think @zutt wants Tim to maintain his principles

2018-10-23 20:22:31 UTC  

yeah but he's center left

2018-10-23 20:22:35 UTC  

Classic liberalism feels more center now.

2018-10-23 20:22:40 UTC  

But can look at mess dems are now and see it