Its VERY RED now

I actually want him to stay as he is

I just like watching him go insane

Lel

@zutt So everyone fucking hates him for life?

thats the problem with being in the center

Why would leftists join?

no one likes you

I am leftist in a way

Leftist including classic liberalism?

Obviously this would be more of a centrist/right server.

or excluding it

I think @zutt wants Tim to maintain his principles

yeah but he's center left

Classic liberalism feels more center now.

But can look at mess dems are now and see it

not to move because someone else wants them to

Tbh freedom is a right wing talking point now

i don't think red pilling tim would work, he kinda knows what he is talking about 😉

No Centeralist still support lower taxes

Which a fiscal point of view is almost the most important part of a party.

I am not into tax reform discussions tbh

Tim is too caught up on not offending people and letting them do harmful things than telling people to face reality.

I as a centrist am for lower taxes

I am more into making things more efficient

First

I don't even know where to start on taxes

I do

my first though is just that "it works"

Taxation is theft

thought*

@Dr.Wol is that because you identify with it or people tell you that you are?

Thats very libertarian position

Taxation is a necessity

i'm for taxes in the amount needed to run government. then again i absolutely believe that government spends too much money on bullshit.

Cause I can call myself a woman but that doesnt mean im am

If you want to maintain state

I identify as one,

Cuz i am for a "safety net" but i'm against welfare as a principle

how will the government pay for infrastructure or literally anything else then

amongst other things