this is true

I vote for how things should be, not what is most convenient for me

how do we prevent people from becoming dependent on it then?

Well, the "living" part has to be just "Sleep under roof, have drinks and food"

So I would vote for anti abortion

problem starts when you can buy non-essential stuff while on welfare

It has to be uncomfortable to the extreme, but not in any way that would be harmful to their health

But in practice would want to utilize abortion things

Water and nutrient bricks

It is a major convenience to just terminate a child, but it isn't right

what about a Darwinian approach to welfare (if that makes any sense). Let people spend their welfare money on whatever; those who spend it wisely (on food, putting some in savings, and move towards getting out of poverty) will eventually no longer need it

Then you run into people complaining about how they can't live off of $20,000 of crack money cause they don't have any left over for ramen

isn't that their fault though?

Lel

@Matt-Kill723 If they fail and dont die we still have a social responsiblity to make them able to support themselves

Yes, but people are already too dependent. I think the best way to correct for unproductive behavior is to give them no choice on what to buy, and make their living conditions as uncomfortable as possible without harming them and provide them ample opportunity to get a job

Everyone in the comments is trying to redpil tim

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He's not paying attention

You should be given tickets that get you cases of water and nutrient bricks.

Maybe soap if they're good

I don't think Tim cares about this discord anymore

Its VERY RED now

I actually want him to stay as he is

I just like watching him go insane

Lel

@zutt So everyone fucking hates him for life?

thats the problem with being in the center

Why would leftists join?

no one likes you

I am leftist in a way

Leftist including classic liberalism?

Obviously this would be more of a centrist/right server.

or excluding it

I think @zutt wants Tim to maintain his principles

yeah but he's center left

Classic liberalism feels more center now.

But can look at mess dems are now and see it

not to move because someone else wants them to