Message from @Undead Mockingbird
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But it's not impossible we haven't made the right observations, but as the number of observations increase, them all being wrong becomes very unlikely.
@Dr.Wol you need to learn to step outside the modernist worldview because your enemies live outside its confines.
However, it does not change the fact that it remains a stochastic process.
you need to learn to understand how they think
otherwise all your facts and logic and reason will fail you
In a way, everything about science is a series of statistical observations.
sounds like liberalism to me
So nothing is ever proven.
Not proven about reality at least.
You can make proofs by formulating axioms and rules of inference.
But the axioms are only as accurate as the observations of reality they match.
@Atkins they will not, and you're talking shit,
You're arguing about the fact that those in power make the rules,
But those in power can't change reality,
They can only compel me to say what they say
But they can't change reality
these are people who believe, if not explicitly than implicitly, that the world we inhabit is merely a consensual hallucination, and if all participants believe something it becomes fact
it doesn't
thats why Truth is not the same as Fact
you and i believe that
they don't
and they have power
(((they)))
it doesn't matter, Facts are static, you can't change them
Truth is in the eye of the beholder
truth is whatever the one holding the gun says it is
Facts are that if you pour half a dozen bullets through a living human beings head with a gun he'll die
No amount of "I say its not so" will change that
Maybe truth as in observation and fact as some theoretical reality that we need to infer.
A religion that forbids questions is one I don't want to be part of.
Anyway. I don't want to guide my life by things I cannot test.
i am not a post-modernist. i don't believe this crap. but you need to be able to understand those that are. you are failing to do so and your puffy statements about facts are irrelevant to those who seek to have you under their boot.
Truth is subjective,
Facts are static, they don't chang, no matter what anyone chooses to believe
To the degree that I can test religion, I would apply the scientific method, which makes the distinction moot.
you can never test everything that needs to be true for a plane to fly
No, you just don't understand what i'm saying
no vacation for you?
You don't use the scientific method for religion because religion isn't a science.
We both know, that those in power can compel "truth"
But no matter what they want they can't compel facts
That is why post-modernism is falling appart at every turn
Right, which is why I keep making the distinction between knowledge and scientific method.
Because you can't "Want" reality to change
The body of scientific knowledge and the amount I was able to verify is always imperfect.
But the scientific METHOD has proven itself in myriads of scenarios.
they're not falling apart. they might very well win. this fight is nowhere close to won.