Message from @>Cytos, de lieve goede synth

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2018-10-24 18:58:04 UTC  

Religion is not designed to be tested.

2018-10-24 18:58:12 UTC  

if you have a post-modern epistemology you merely have the dominant power structure

2018-10-24 18:58:19 UTC  

Many religions are designed to be tested.

2018-10-24 18:58:22 UTC  

You can apply the scientific method to religion, but then you will find that our scientific models are better.

2018-10-24 18:58:29 UTC  

Philosophy is questiosn that may never be answered
Religion is answered that may never be questioned

2018-10-24 18:58:47 UTC  

this is a witty sentance without much substantive meaning

2018-10-24 18:59:03 UTC  

#magabomber is trending

2018-10-24 18:59:16 UTC  

And that works for "truth" Atkins, but for facts it doesn't

Thats why Trans people systematically outperform women in sports,

Men are superior physically, that is a fact,
And no amount of "I want to believe" will change it

2018-10-24 18:59:21 UTC  

You can go to a Buddhist temple and ask the same question to every Brahman there and each one would give you their own answer.

2018-10-24 18:59:23 UTC  

as a centrist i am only half religious, obviously

2018-10-24 18:59:31 UTC  

Yes, let's stick with that exmaple.

2018-10-24 18:59:45 UTC  

Male and female relative accomplishment.

2018-10-24 18:59:58 UTC  

According to the scientific method, we collect observations.

2018-10-24 19:00:09 UTC  

We are reasonably sure because we have observed a lot of men and women.

2018-10-24 19:00:31 UTC  

But it's not impossible we haven't made the right observations, but as the number of observations increase, them all being wrong becomes very unlikely.

2018-10-24 19:00:44 UTC  

@Dr.Wol you need to learn to step outside the modernist worldview because your enemies live outside its confines.

2018-10-24 19:00:49 UTC  

However, it does not change the fact that it remains a stochastic process.

2018-10-24 19:00:54 UTC  

you need to learn to understand how they think

2018-10-24 19:01:08 UTC  

otherwise all your facts and logic and reason will fail you

2018-10-24 19:01:09 UTC  

In a way, everything about science is a series of statistical observations.

2018-10-24 19:01:12 UTC  

sounds like liberalism to me

2018-10-24 19:01:14 UTC  

So nothing is ever proven.

2018-10-24 19:01:27 UTC  

Not proven about reality at least.

2018-10-24 19:01:39 UTC  

You can make proofs by formulating axioms and rules of inference.

2018-10-24 19:01:54 UTC  

But the axioms are only as accurate as the observations of reality they match.

2018-10-24 19:01:54 UTC  

@Atkins they will not, and you're talking shit,

You're arguing about the fact that those in power make the rules,
But those in power can't change reality,

They can only compel me to say what they say
But they can't change reality

2018-10-24 19:02:13 UTC  

these are people who believe, if not explicitly than implicitly, that the world we inhabit is merely a consensual hallucination, and if all participants believe something it becomes fact

2018-10-24 19:02:23 UTC  

it doesn't

2018-10-24 19:02:29 UTC  

thats why Truth is not the same as Fact

2018-10-24 19:02:30 UTC  

you and i believe that

2018-10-24 19:02:31 UTC  

they don't

2018-10-24 19:02:35 UTC  

and they have power

2018-10-24 19:02:44 UTC  

(((they)))

2018-10-24 19:02:46 UTC  

it doesn't matter, Facts are static, you can't change them

Truth is in the eye of the beholder

2018-10-24 19:03:06 UTC  

I don't like the distinction between truth and fact.

2018-10-24 19:03:19 UTC  

truth is whatever the one holding the gun says it is

2018-10-24 19:03:32 UTC  

Facts are that if you pour half a dozen bullets through a living human beings head with a gun he'll die

No amount of "I say its not so" will change that

2018-10-24 19:03:34 UTC  

Maybe truth as in observation and fact as some theoretical reality that we need to infer.

2018-10-24 19:03:42 UTC  

A religion that forbids questions is one I don't want to be part of.